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crazyhorse1 wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:Welcome back RG3 - great to see you doing your thing

Which is?

Throw an incredibly stupid pass that resulted in an INT? Or turn the ball over and practically give Dallas a TD on the four yard line? This isn't fantasy island, Griffin is nowhere near what he was last year. Not even close.

It wasn't a stupid pass. Moss fell down after the ball was thrown.

Lets be honest with ourselves here. The pass was a bad one. Moss never fell. Even if he slipped (which you can't see) the ball was still 15 yards away from him and off target. He did stop, but I'm not sure that would have mattered --- and it appears the reason he did stop was because he completed his route and saw that he was moving into double coverage and assumed the ball would never be thrown to him.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/dallas-cowboy ... efense-INT

Lets stop making excuses for RGIII here. It was a bad play --- whether because it was poorly thrown, a bad decision with other options open, a bad defensive read, or whatever. It was a bad play; I don't see how this can be disputed --- or should be.

markshark84 wrote:

crazyhorse1 wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:Welcome back RG3 - great to see you doing your thing

Which is?

Throw an incredibly stupid pass that resulted in an INT? Or turn the ball over and practically give Dallas a TD on the four yard line? This isn't fantasy island, Griffin is nowhere near what he was last year. Not even close.

It wasn't a stupid pass. Moss fell down after the ball was thrown.

Lets be honest with ourselves here. The pass was a bad one. Moss never fell. Even if he slipped (which you can't see) the ball was still 15 yards away from him and off target. He did stop, but I'm not sure that would have mattered --- and it appears the reason he did stop was because he completed his route and saw that he was moving into double coverage and assumed the ball would never be thrown to him.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/dallas-cowboy ... efense-INT

Lets stop making excuses for RGIII here. It was a bad play --- whether because it was poorly thrown, a bad decision with other options open, a bad defensive read, or whatever. It was a bad play; I don't see how this can be disputed --- or should be.

I can't open that link right now but they showed the replay during the game and Moss clearly fell down. If you want to call it a bad throw go ahead but don't dispute him falling.

markshark84 wrote:

crazyhorse1 wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:Welcome back RG3 - great to see you doing your thing

Which is?

Throw an incredibly stupid pass that resulted in an INT? Or turn the ball over and practically give Dallas a TD on the four yard line? This isn't fantasy island, Griffin is nowhere near what he was last year. Not even close.

It wasn't a stupid pass. Moss fell down after the ball was thrown.

Lets be honest with ourselves here. The pass was a bad one. Moss never fell. Even if he slipped (which you can't see) the ball was still 15 yards away from him and off target. He did stop, but I'm not sure that would have mattered --- and it appears the reason he did stop was because he completed his route and saw that he was moving into double coverage and assumed the ball would never be thrown to him.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/dallas-cowboy ... efense-INT

Lets stop making excuses for RGIII here. It was a bad play --- whether because it was poorly thrown, a bad decision with other options open, a bad defensive read, or whatever. It was a bad play; I don't see how this can be disputed --- or should be.

Yes. Who cares if Moss fell down? It wasn't even close to him. The DB on Dallas had him dead to rights on that throw. Unless of course you're wearing those SuperGriffin glasses, in which you never see him make any mistakes.

SkinsJock wrote:

riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?

+1 - I'm out

Threads like this are going to be a common occurance.

Bishop Hammer wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:

riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?

+1 - I'm out

Threads like this are going to be a common occurance.

It's just one lost soul with multiple personalities.

Griffen looked much better physically and with this throw. That is something to be excited about.

funsho2 wrote:

PulpExposure wrote:

funsho2 wrote:Rg3 is not a good pocket passer .....time to go in a different direction

With the non-existent blocking today, Cousins would have died. RG3 wasn't accurate, but he sure as hell dodged a lot of bullets.

What about the miss throws and the unnecessary int?

Moss fell... there's a third replay that clearly shows it.

Beyond this, I'm pretty sure "The Onion" put them up to this...

riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?

Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.

riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?

Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.

OldSchool wrote:

riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?

Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.

Griffin ran for 77 yards Sunday night. Have YOU been watching?

If anything, Griffin is looking like he's getting back to his old self. WTF is this thread about???

riggofan wrote:

OldSchool wrote:

riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?

Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.

Griffin ran for 77 yards Sunday night. Have YOU been watching?

And threw how many TD's?

The Hogster wrote:If anything, Griffin is looking like he's getting back to his old self. WTF is this thread about???

Another knee-jerk thread, unforutnately. But if we keep up this losing trend, it's going to be hard to call it "knee-jerk" anymore.

The Hogster wrote:If anything, Griffin is looking like he's getting back to his old self. WTF is this thread about???

I actually want to be clear. I AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT.

I do think that throw was a bad one, but as my initial post states --- the time for change has passed. RGIII is showing improvement. He is still having issues with accuracy, but I've seen progress. It has been consistent from game to game. No reason to pull him now.

StorminMormon86 wrote:

riggofan wrote:

OldSchool wrote:

riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?

Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.

Griffin ran for 77 yards Sunday night. Have YOU been watching?

And threw how many TD's?

That's great - then make that argument. This guy is saying that Griffin doesn't have exceptional mobility. RGIII ran for four less yards than our STARTING RUNNING BACK did on Sunday. And he ran HALF as often as Morris did.

I get the sense that people are just throwing stuff out here to see what sticks. Then when somebody calls them on the BS, they're like, "Yeah but but but but but how many TDs did he throw???"

Come up with a coherent argument backed by some facts. Hopefully something more thoughtful than "Our offense sucks. Our QB sucks. We never should have let John Beck go."

riggofan wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

riggofan wrote:

OldSchool wrote:

riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?

Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.

Griffin ran for 77 yards Sunday night. Have YOU been watching?

And threw how many TD's?

That's great - then make that argument. This guy is saying that Griffin doesn't have exceptional mobility. RGIII ran for four less yards than our STARTING RUNNING BACK did on Sunday. And he ran HALF as often as Morris did.

I get the sense that people are just throwing stuff out here to see what sticks. Then when somebody calls them on the BS, they're like, "Yeah but but but but but how many TDs did he throw???"

Come up with a coherent argument backed by some facts. Hopefully something more thoughtful than "Our offense sucks. Our QB sucks. We never should have let John Beck go."

Now you're just fighting dirty.

The Hogster wrote:If anything, Griffin is looking like he's getting back to his old self. WTF is this thread about???

It's about whining and the other QB is much better.

Im sorry for this thread...it was a knee jerk reaction.....its part of fustration from everybody

riggofan wrote:Come up with a coherent argument backed by some facts. Hopefully something more thoughtful than "Our offense sucks. Our QB sucks. We never should have let John Beck go."

Yes, because I never said that. Nor did I say our QB sucks. Look up his stats this year, those are some facts. How about the fact that our offense has scored only one offensive touchdown in the first half of every game this year? Fact. Or how about after those "preseason" games and a bye week, Griffin still continued to struggle in terms of holding the ball too long and looking like a deer in headlights at times? Improvement? Sure, if you want to say he looks more confident with his legs when running. Outside of that, I haven't seen much.

funsho2 wrote:Im sorry for this thread...it was a knee jerk reaction.....its part of fustration from everybody

Its OK. Come on in, have a beer, actually here's bourbon, double. We all (I know I am anyway) understand and can empathize.

emoses14 wrote:

funsho2 wrote:Im sorry for this thread...it was a knee jerk reaction.....its part of fustration from everybody

Its OK. Come on in, have a beer, actually here's bourbon, double. We all (I know I am anyway) understand and can empathize.

My game day drinking has definitely spiked this season. May require rehab if we don't get things turned around soon.

riggofan wrote:

emoses14 wrote:

funsho2 wrote:Im sorry for this thread...it was a knee jerk reaction.....its part of fustration from everybody

Its OK. Come on in, have a beer, actually here's bourbon, double. We all (I know I am anyway) understand and can empathize.

My game day drinking has definitely spiked this season. May require rehab if we don't get things turned around soon.

My game day drinking has become binge week drinking for this season.

StorminMormon86 wrote:

riggofan wrote:

emoses14 wrote:

funsho2 wrote:Im sorry for this thread...it was a knee jerk reaction.....its part of fustration from everybody

Its OK. Come on in, have a beer, actually here's bourbon, double. We all (I know I am anyway) understand and can empathize.

My game day drinking has definitely spiked this season. May require rehab if we don't get things turned around soon.

My game day drinking has become binge week drinking for this season.

Game day? With the way this team is headed (slight exaggeration, I HOPE), I'm close to weekend drinking to cope.

emoses14 wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

riggofan wrote:

emoses14 wrote:

funsho2 wrote:Im sorry for this thread...it was a knee jerk reaction.....its part of fustration from everybody

Its OK. Come on in, have a beer, actually here's bourbon, double. We all (I know I am anyway) understand and can empathize.

My game day drinking has definitely spiked this season. May require rehab if we don't get things turned around soon.

My game day drinking has become binge week drinking for this season.

Game day? With the way this team is headed (slight exaggeration, I HOPE), I'm close to weekend drinking to cope.

Yeah...this season has made "game day" transform into "game week" drinking for me. I need Monday-Saturday to warmup for Sunday.

Sounds like we may need to form our own support group soon.