SkinsJock wrote:Welcome back RG3 - great to see you doing your thing
Which is?
Throw an incredibly stupid pass that resulted in an INT? Or turn the ball over and practically give Dallas a TD on the four yard line? This isn't fantasy island, Griffin is nowhere near what he was last year. Not even close.
It wasn't a stupid pass. Moss fell down after the ball was thrown.
Lets be honest with ourselves here. The pass was a bad one. Moss never fell. Even if he slipped (which you can't see) the ball was still 15 yards away from him and off target. He did stop, but I'm not sure that would have mattered --- and it appears the reason he did stop was because he completed his route and saw that he was moving into double coverage and assumed the ball would never be thrown to him.
Lets stop making excuses for RGIII here. It was a bad play --- whether because it was poorly thrown, a bad decision with other options open, a bad defensive read, or whatever. It was a bad play; I don't see how this can be disputed --- or should be.
SkinsJock wrote:Welcome back RG3 - great to see you doing your thing
Which is?
Throw an incredibly stupid pass that resulted in an INT? Or turn the ball over and practically give Dallas a TD on the four yard line? This isn't fantasy island, Griffin is nowhere near what he was last year. Not even close.
It wasn't a stupid pass. Moss fell down after the ball was thrown.
Lets be honest with ourselves here. The pass was a bad one. Moss never fell. Even if he slipped (which you can't see) the ball was still 15 yards away from him and off target. He did stop, but I'm not sure that would have mattered --- and it appears the reason he did stop was because he completed his route and saw that he was moving into double coverage and assumed the ball would never be thrown to him.
Lets stop making excuses for RGIII here. It was a bad play --- whether because it was poorly thrown, a bad decision with other options open, a bad defensive read, or whatever. It was a bad play; I don't see how this can be disputed --- or should be.
I can't open that link right now but they showed the replay during the game and Moss clearly fell down. If you want to call it a bad throw go ahead but don't dispute him falling.
SkinsJock wrote:Welcome back RG3 - great to see you doing your thing
Which is?
Throw an incredibly stupid pass that resulted in an INT? Or turn the ball over and practically give Dallas a TD on the four yard line? This isn't fantasy island, Griffin is nowhere near what he was last year. Not even close.
It wasn't a stupid pass. Moss fell down after the ball was thrown.
Lets be honest with ourselves here. The pass was a bad one. Moss never fell. Even if he slipped (which you can't see) the ball was still 15 yards away from him and off target. He did stop, but I'm not sure that would have mattered --- and it appears the reason he did stop was because he completed his route and saw that he was moving into double coverage and assumed the ball would never be thrown to him.
Lets stop making excuses for RGIII here. It was a bad play --- whether because it was poorly thrown, a bad decision with other options open, a bad defensive read, or whatever. It was a bad play; I don't see how this can be disputed --- or should be.
Yes. Who cares if Moss fell down? It wasn't even close to him. The DB on Dallas had him dead to rights on that throw. Unless of course you're wearing those SuperGriffin glasses, in which you never see him make any mistakes.
funsho2 wrote:Rg3 is not a good pocket passer .....time to go in a different direction
With the non-existent blocking today, Cousins would have died. RG3 wasn't accurate, but he sure as hell dodged a lot of bullets.
What about the miss throws and the unnecessary int?
Moss fell... there's a third replay that clearly shows it.
Beyond this, I'm pretty sure "The Onion" put them up to this...
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riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?
Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.
riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?
Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.
riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?
Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.
Griffin ran for 77 yards Sunday night. Have YOU been watching?
riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?
Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.
Griffin ran for 77 yards Sunday night. Have YOU been watching?
The Hogster wrote:If anything, Griffin is looking like he's getting back to his old self. WTF is this thread about???
I actually want to be clear. I AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT.
I do think that throw was a bad one, but as my initial post states --- the time for change has passed. RGIII is showing improvement. He is still having issues with accuracy, but I've seen progress. It has been consistent from game to game. No reason to pull him now.
riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?
Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.
Griffin ran for 77 yards Sunday night. Have YOU been watching?
And threw how many TD's?
That's great - then make that argument. This guy is saying that Griffin doesn't have exceptional mobility. RGIII ran for four less yards than our STARTING RUNNING BACK did on Sunday. And he ran HALF as often as Morris did.
I get the sense that people are just throwing stuff out here to see what sticks. Then when somebody calls them on the BS, they're like, "Yeah but but but but but how many TDs did he throw???"
Come up with a coherent argument backed by some facts. Hopefully something more thoughtful than "Our offense sucks. Our QB sucks. We never should have let John Beck go."
riggofan wrote:Seriously???? Can we just delete this incredibly stupid thread?
Because Griffin without exceptional mobility is effective? Have been watching? I don't know if Cousins can help the Skins win and get back into the division race but Griffin playing with pocket passer legs without pocket passer skills isn't going to do it.
Griffin ran for 77 yards Sunday night. Have YOU been watching?
And threw how many TD's?
That's great - then make that argument. This guy is saying that Griffin doesn't have exceptional mobility. RGIII ran for four less yards than our STARTING RUNNING BACK did on Sunday. And he ran HALF as often as Morris did.
I get the sense that people are just throwing stuff out here to see what sticks. Then when somebody calls them on the BS, they're like, "Yeah but but but but but how many TDs did he throw???"
Come up with a coherent argument backed by some facts. Hopefully something more thoughtful than "Our offense sucks. Our QB sucks. We never should have let John Beck go."
Now you're just fighting dirty.
I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"
riggofan wrote:Come up with a coherent argument backed by some facts. Hopefully something more thoughtful than "Our offense sucks. Our QB sucks. We never should have let John Beck go."
Yes, because I never said that. Nor did I say our QB sucks. Look up his stats this year, those are some facts. How about the fact that our offense has scored only one offensive touchdown in the first half of every game this year? Fact. Or how about after those "preseason" games and a bye week, Griffin still continued to struggle in terms of holding the ball too long and looking like a deer in headlights at times? Improvement? Sure, if you want to say he looks more confident with his legs when running. Outside of that, I haven't seen much.
Sounds like we may need to form our own support group soon.
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