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SkinsJock wrote:IMO - RG3, Mike and Dr Andrews feel that he will be ready to play very soon ... IF any of them felt that the knee was not ready, he would not be allowed to play

RG3 has worked very hard at getting himself in shape to be able to play again ... Why would you not let him play?


I can understand that some fans do not think he can be ready to play again but they obviously do not understand the modern day miracles of medical science
these fans are probably basing their thinking on out of date recovery data

no worries - they will soon see RG3 erasing all doubts

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... 00-percent

Deadskins wrote:

EA7649 wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

EA7649 wrote:The hour ESPN film of him 8/27 looks pretty cool.

Say what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=tr ... w5_xp_pU8g

"its not a comeback story, how could you comeback if you were never gone"

Thanks.

paulvs wrote:It's really simple. If he is 100% you play him. Why wouldn't you? If he is not, you hold him out.

EA7649 wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:IMO - RG3, Mike and Dr Andrews feel that he will be ready to play very soon ... IF any of them felt that the knee was not ready, he would not be allowed to play ...

.... It isn't the best move for the team, with their franchise player to play someone too soon. When they feel 100% comfortable playing him with a lower risk or re-injury he'll be on the field.

langleyparkjoe wrote:

paulvs wrote:It's really simple. If he is 100% you play him. Why wouldn't you? If he is not, you hold him out.

i mean really now, this isn't rocket science. lls

Irn-Bru wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:

paulvs wrote:It's really simple. If he is 100% you play him. Why wouldn't you? If he is not, you hold him out.

i mean really now, this isn't rocket science. lls

Well, what if he's 97%? Or 95? When you do cut it off? I don't think 100 is reasonable, because he could be, say, 90% and not in any additional danger of hurting the knee. A 90% RGIII would be better than Cousins, IMHO, so you start him.

SkinsJock wrote:PLEASE get a clue about all this - if the medical staff and the coaching staff think that his knee is good to go - he should play

riggofan wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:PLEASE get a clue about all this - if the medical staff and the coaching staff think that his knee is good to go - he should play

Before you start shooting your mouth off about "getting a clue" I think you should re-read my post. I specifically said I think RGIII will play against the Eagles if the Doctors say he is healed enough to play safely. You sound like an idiot arguing against nobody.

riggofan wrote:I totally disagree with this nonsense that RGIII's knee is "completely healed". 1) He's wearing a knee brace for a reason.

2) If you have knee surgery in January, there is no question that your knee will be more healed in October than it is in September.

Deadskins wrote:

riggofan wrote:I totally disagree with this nonsense that RGIII's knee is "completely healed". 1) He's wearing a knee brace for a reason. 2) If you have knee surgery in January, there is no question that your knee will be more healed in October than it is in September.

1) He's going to wear it all season, so there's nothing to that reasoning. He's wearing it as a precaution.
2) Once it's fully healed, it can't get any more healed. So if it's fully healed in September, then it won't be any more healed in October. It will still be fully healed.
Now, whether or not you believe he can be fully healed at this point is another story. Obviously, you have your doubts, and that's OK. But medical science has taken leaps forward in this area, and it is possible.

SkinsJock wrote:btw - riggofan, you're the one who implied that RG3 is wearing a brace because his knee is not ready

riggofan wrote:I totally disagree with this nonsense that RGIII's knee is "completely healed". 1) He's wearing a knee brace for a reason.

WRONG ...

2) If you have knee surgery in January, there is no question that your knee will be more healed in October than it is in September.

AND ... WRONG AGAIN - try and stay up with the miracles of modern medicine and the use of stem cells ... please

riggofan wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

riggofan wrote:I totally disagree with this nonsense that RGIII's knee is "completely healed". 1) He's wearing a knee brace for a reason. 2) If you have knee surgery in January, there is no question that your knee will be more healed in October than it is in September.

1) He's going to wear it all season, so there's nothing to that reasoning. He's wearing it as a precaution.
2) Once it's fully healed, it can't get any more healed. So if it's fully healed in September, then it won't be any more healed in October. It will still be fully healed.
Now, whether or not you believe he can be fully healed at this point is another story. Obviously, you have your doubts, and that's OK. But medical science has taken leaps forward in this area, and it is possible.

Come on man, you're splitting hairs and its not very convincing. Only wearing the knee brace as a precaution? A precaution against what? Oh yeah a precaution against re-injuring his knee that he just had surgery on. If he was completely confident that his knee was 100% what it was a year ago, he wouldn't be wearing the brace.

riggofan wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:btw - riggofan, you're the one who implied that RG3 is wearing a brace because his knee is not ready

riggofan wrote:I totally disagree with this nonsense that RGIII's knee is "completely healed". 1) He's wearing a knee brace for a reason.

WRONG ...

2) If you have knee surgery in January, there is no question that your knee will be more healed in October than it is in September.

AND ... WRONG AGAIN - try and stay up with the miracles of modern medicine and the use of stem cells ... please

Thanks for enlightening us all, Dr. Zeus.

Deadskins wrote:

riggofan wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

riggofan wrote:I totally disagree with this nonsense that RGIII's knee is "completely healed". 1) He's wearing a knee brace for a reason. 2) If you have knee surgery in January, there is no question that your knee will be more healed in October than it is in September.

1) He's going to wear it all season, so there's nothing to that reasoning. He's wearing it as a precaution.
2) Once it's fully healed, it can't get any more healed. So if it's fully healed in September, then it won't be any more healed in October. It will still be fully healed.
Now, whether or not you believe he can be fully healed at this point is another story. Obviously, you have your doubts, and that's OK. But medical science has taken leaps forward in this area, and it is possible.

Come on man, you're splitting hairs and its not very convincing. Only wearing the knee brace as a precaution? A precaution against what? Oh yeah a precaution against re-injuring his knee that he just had surgery on. If he was completely confident that his knee was 100% what it was a year ago, he wouldn't be wearing the brace.

It's not splitting hairs. Of course it's a precaution against reinjury. Your post implied he was wearing the brace because his knee is not fully recovered. but he's already stated that he intends to wear it all season, as he's gotten used to it, and doesn't even notice it any more. He even said he may continue to wear it in future seasons. Just because he's wearing the brace, that isn't proof that the knee still needs time to heal.

Quarterback Robert Griffin III (first round): Still recovering from his knee surgery. The Redskins say he’s on pace to start the opener, but more needs to be seen.

welch wrote:I'm for cautoion.

Robert Griffin, Shanahan, and the medical staff kept him playing after the first injury and after Cousins had shown that he's probably good enough to win games.

They kept him playing against Seattle after he began to limp on the bad knee.

- Griffin is one of the three best quarterbacks I have seen, either on TV or on film. (Gotta justify Sammy Baugh: my Dad saw him and still tells the stories...)

- I want Robert Griffin to play as long as Sammy and Sonny did...until he's nearly 40...and always in a Redskin uniform.

- An injured player is at more risk to injury because he's not as agile and cannot absorb hits as well.

riggofan wrote:I don't understand this wanting to end discussion on a discussion board. Fans enjoy speculating about everything. Why should yapping about RGIII's knee be any different?

DarthMonk wrote:I am not advocating we wait until after the bye to start Griff but over the off season it occasionally surfaced as a possible timetable. Anyway, I was thinking about the possibility and, if it actually happened, what the outcomes could be. Here are a few I came up with.

Imagine Cousins going 3-1 with a win vs. the Eags, a tough loss at Green Bay, a win vs. the Lions, and a win at Oakland. Further imagine a 4 game stat line of 1,000 yards, 68.8% completion rate (his stat last year, #2 in NFL), 8 TDs, 2 picks, and a 101.6 QB rating (his stat last year, #5 in NFL behind Griff).

Now imagine the Dallas game during bye week. It's Griff's 1st start and we are going to Dallas. Instead of them laying in wait to avenge Turkey Day, we are breathing fire in anticipation of Griff's debut. Then Griff lights 'em up in "Griff's House" just like last year.

1 Mike would certainly have bolstered his position as Top Dog.

2 Mike would have showcased Cousins giving the league 4 more chances to see him and essentially cementing his status as a guy well worth trading for.

3 Mike's status as a genius goes through the roof. He has gotten the whole city and the team extra rabid for this game and the Griffskins have slain them. Cousins is even more valuable and pretty darn happy. We are pumped and off to the races.

4 Oh, here's a good one - Mike would have given Griff 5 extra weeks to "heal."

SkinsJock wrote:
I agree with you basically but I also am not convinced at all that Dr Andrews, the medical staff, the coaching strafe or even RG3 himself are in any way NOT acting with extreme caution and ARE in fact ensuring that RG3 needs to be here and playing in a Redskins uniform for as long as possible

It's a fact that RG3 is an olympic caliber athlete and Sonny and Sammy were NOT - actually neither was even close to having the athleticism of RG3
as great as both were - I predict that RG3 will be a better leader

given all that - there is ZERO to be gained by holding him out

RG3 WILL NOT be playing UNTIL he's not in ANY WAY risking his future as a QB

EVERYONE concerned - medical, physical, coaches and the player have moved on from last season - it's OVER, It's history - they have all acknowledged that they have learned from that

let it go - watch him play and appreciate that players today are a lot better, a lot fitter, and medical science is amazing