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Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:08 am
by cowboykillerzRGiii
The definition of PED is pretty vague... I'd bet the protien and post work out glutemine I take would get me suspended. The difference between that and a ped is I still have to put in the work, it just optimizes my diet for me, knowing I dont eat the optimum foods all day every day. It is what it is, and like most policies in the NFL it is flawed. See uncapped year Smfh

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:45 am
by SkinsJock
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-o ... -violation

there is NO excuse - he let the team down by taking a supplement that he KNEW was NOT NFL approved .. BASICALLY he tried to cheat and got caught
this stuff is out there and all the players know what they can and cannot take
this is NOT an NFL issue - this is EASY for the players who do not want to get suspended - do NOT take supplements that are not approved - if it does NOT say it is approved - you will get suspended

hopefully we find someone else and this dumb idiot just becomes a back-up for the rest of his career

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:47 am
by Cappster
SkinsJock wrote:
Cappster wrote:.. They are football players not rocket scientists. It could be just an honest mistake...an unfortunate mistake, but we all do things we wish we could've done differently. It's just that with being in the NFL, it's going to be out there and in the open. If he makes the mistake twice, well, it wasn't really a mistake to begin with.


Jenkins admits that he knew that the supplement he was taking was not approved (and it was not) then there was a very good chance it most likely contained a substance that could get him suspended

HE KNEW THIS

now what we need to happen here is for a player to step up and take his place and HOPEFULLY then Jenkins becomes just a 'good' back-up AND then HOPEFULLY he loses his job in the NFL

this is all most likely not happening but .. this guy has made a choice and HOPEFULLY it comes back to hurt him, big time - That is NOTHING compared to what he did to his team

I hope and pray that Jenkins is not ever needed to be a part of the B&G again - dumb mistakes should come back to haunt you


Wow. I can tell that you are an iron hammer kind of guy. I hope Jenkins learns from his mistake and doesn't ever make said mistake again. I hope he has a long and successful career and can be a person who can help teach others about making the right decisions in life especially when it comes to playing in the NFL.

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:02 am
by SkinsJock
I have no sympathy for someone that was possibly taking stuff to try to mask the illegal stuff he was using to get an edge - he made a mistake and he hurt his team

I have no problem with him getting over it and being a good citizen again

BUT - do you really think it was a "mistake" - I think he knew what he was doing and wanted to get an edge - IMO he tried to cheat & got caught
I'd think more of him if he were to admit that rather than say "I made a mistake ... it won't happen again"

he's CERTAINLY not the only guy in the NFL to try this - but, he's here and this really hurts our D

I'm just mad as hell at him right now :x

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:10 am
by SkinsJock
players hear about this stuff from other players all the time - they still do it and it's not helping to say "he made a mistake ..... "

WHY? - why make the choice when you've been told COUNTLESS times NOT to TRY THIS ... IF you do this you WILL be caught

then a bunch of fans come out and say " it's just a mistake ... "

IT's NOT a 'mistake' - these players are trying to cheat and getting caught despite all the guys that have learned from trying it and tried to tell them not to ...

END OF RANT

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:20 am
by Cappster
Haha. At least he didn't literally pee in your cheerios. I think we all are disappointed in the man, but it is what it is. He needs to prepare himself to be a monster this year and realize that anything he takes needs to be on the approved substance list. Is he an idiot for taking unsanctioned substances? Yes. Can he get past this and actually make a positive impact on the team? Yes.

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:59 am
by SCSkinsFan
mastdark81 wrote:WTF!! We starting to catch up with them Seahawks in players with banned substances the past few years.


Catch up? The Skins lead the league in suspensions for PEDs since 2011 with 8. Big mistake by Jenkins. NFL players need to stay out of GNC. There's no telling what's in their products that violates NFL rules. :roll:
:(

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:31 am
by ACW
Supplements are BS anyway.

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:17 pm
by SkinsJock
ACW wrote:Supplements are BS anyway.


well, that certainly helps :shock:

LOOK - I understand we need to "make the best out of this" - the thing that really makes me upset is that these guys try to cheat, then try to mask it, AND then say - "gee, I'm sorry I hurt the team and I embarrassed my family ... etc etc .." and fans just put up with this BS each and EVERY time it happens - these guys need to face a punishment that will not make it worth getting caught - THAT is the issue here

take a guy like Braun in baseball - he signs a 127,000,000 contract then only gets fined 3,000,000 - that means he makes a fortune by cheating - that is crazy

I know the NFL is different but what the hell is going on - why does the nil just suspend these guys for a few games - they need to really make it a big deal if you get caught cheating AND don't try and tell me that they didn't really understand - they take the supplements because they are told it will mask the "STUFF" - they did it to cheat and try to get more money - they should not be allowed to just get suspended for a few games

THEY WOULD NOT TRY THIS IF THEY KNEW THERE WAS A CHANCE OF GETTING KICKED OUT
The players feel it is no big deal - do your suspension and then come back & get your big paycheck - you are still an NFL player ... THAT IS BS

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:00 pm
by Deadskins
If only it were that simple.

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:45 pm
by SkinsJock
Deadskins wrote:If only it were that simple.


TRUE dat :roll:

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:50 am
by Chris Luva Luva
Dumb mistake, next man up, no point in crying over spilled milk.

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:48 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/29/nflpa-supplement-certification-program-ended-in-2011-which-puts-players-at-their-own-risk/

Over the weekend, the NFLPA issued a warning regarding a vitamin B supplement that, as the FDA discovered, contains two steroids. We mentioned in the corresponding article that the NFL and NFLPA have an approved list of clean supplements.

More accurately, they had an approved list of clean supplements.