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Chris Luva Luva wrote:

everydayAskinsday wrote:Keenan Robinson torn pec .. Out for season again!

Two players, same injury, same setback. IMHO, there's a problem with the team medical staff. At a time where the NFLPA is questioning NFL doctors, this may be the reason why. Something is wrong with the process that they're using if they're losing players to repeat injuries after rehabilitation.

IF my assumption is true. I'd potentially file a complaint/grievance against the team, especially if they cut me soon after.

riggofan wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

everydayAskinsday wrote:Keenan Robinson torn pec .. Out for season again!

Two players, same injury, same setback. IMHO, there's a problem with the team medical staff. At a time where the NFLPA is questioning NFL doctors, this may be the reason why. Something is wrong with the process that they're using if they're losing players to repeat injuries after rehabilitation.

IF my assumption is true. I'd potentially file a complaint/grievance against the team, especially if they cut me soon after.

Robinson tore the other pectoral muscle. Nothing to do with the medical staff.

With players already lost to injuries in the early days of camp, the cycle begins for unemployed veterans.

According to Adam Caplan of TheSidelineView.com, the Redskins are bringing in linebacker Joe Mays for a visit.

They’re running short after the loss of Keenan Robinson to his latest torn pectoral muscle.

Mays was dumped by the Broncos this week, and would be starting-caliber replacement for the Redskins.

1niksder wrote:

With players already lost to injuries in the early days of camp, the cycle begins for unemployed veterans.

According to Adam Caplan of TheSidelineView.com, the Redskins are bringing in linebacker Joe Mays for a visit.

They’re running short after the loss of Keenan Robinson to his latest torn pectoral muscle.

Mays was dumped by the Broncos this week, and would be starting-caliber replacement for the Redskins.

Joe Mays
Draft: 2008 - 6th round 34th pick by the Philadelphia Eagles
Career:
46 games, 123 solo, 30 asst, 1/2 sack, 3 pd.

only played 6 games last yr.

The Redskins appeared to suffer another setback at defensive end when Chris Baker got carted off the field late in Saturday’s practice.

But as it turned out, Baker was simply suffering from a case of cramps, according to Coach Mike Shanahan. Baker is a candidate to start the season as the first string left end because of Jarvis Jenkins’ four-game suspension and Adam Carriker’s leg surgery.

“He had an I.V.,” Shanahan said of Baker. “He should be okay.”

Meantime, wide receivers Donte’ Stallworth and Pierre Garçon as well as linebacker London Fletcher did not participate in Saturday’s practice – the first padded session of training camp. Cornerback Josh Wilson, who is coming off shoulder surgery, did not participate in team drills, while safety Brandon Meriweather, who is coming off knee surgery, took some first team reps off.

1niksder wrote:

The Redskins appeared to suffer another setback at defensive end when Chris Baker got carted off the field late in Saturday’s practice.

But as it turned out, Baker was simply suffering from a case of cramps, according to Coach Mike Shanahan. Baker is a candidate to start the season as the first string left end because of Jarvis Jenkins’ four-game suspension and Adam Carriker’s leg surgery.

“He had an I.V.,” Shanahan said of Baker. “He should be okay.”

Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III is still relegated to 7-on-7 drills, where he drew ovations for his 8-for-10 completed passes.

His biggest round of applause actually came on a play when he was unable to find an open receiver. Running to his left, Griffin III kept his eyes downfield before tucking the ball and running past the line of scrimmage.

As defenders gingerly closed in on the franchise quarterback, Griffin III went into an exaggerated slide that drew raucous applause from fans. Griffin III grinned as he ran back to the huddle.

Here are some other observations from today's portion of practice that was open to the media:


* Running back Roy Helu Jr. has been a part of the regular rotation since returning from injury over the offseason. On one play during 11-on-11 drills, outside linebacker Ryan Kerrigan burst into the backfield and wrapped him up with a play-stopping bear hug. Helu Jr. found success later during 7-on-7 drills, catching a swing pass out of the backfield and racing downfield past linebacker Perry Riley.


* Third-year receiver Aldrick Robinson has been a consistent target from Kirk Cousins and Robert Griffin III, getting plenty of opportunities to carve out his role in the offense. Today, he impressed on several occasions, including a 25-yard reception from Griffin III on a crossing pattern over the middle. Like many other receivers on this roster, Robinson is most dangerous when he has the ball in his hands, as he showed with his run after the catch.


* Rookie tight end Jordan Reed has been thrown into the mix immediately after returning from injury and practicing for the first time with teammates on Thursday. On draft day, Shanahan said that Reed's skillset was a combination not seen very often in an athlete, and he showed his gritty side today, chasing a Kirk Cousins pass that sailed out of bounds and matching the catch. He tried hard to stop himself before running into the crowd, but a wall of hands buffered his collision course, and he trotted back to the huddle.

First, the injury/participation updates: Strong safety Brandon Meriweather took only a handful of reps during team drills in the afternoon. He noticeably limped on his surgically repaired right knee during the morning, but he moved fine in the afternoon.

What coach Mike Shanahan said about Meriweather’s recovery after practice is worth filing away: “We’ve limited him overall because I do see him being a little bit, or at least on the edge where I don’t want him to push himself too hard. We’ve got to get him back in football shape, probably more so than the rest of the [other players coming off surgeries].”

So Shanahan sees the need to be particularly cautious with Meriweather. That’s not particularly encouraging.

Defensive end Chris Baker left team drills early due to cramps. He received intravenous fluids and is expected to be fine. Receiver Donte Stallworth sat out the afternoon because he slightly strained his hamstring in the morning, Shanahan said.

Inside linebacker London Fletcher and receiver Pierre Garcon, both of whom had offseason surgery, sat out the afternoon as a maintenance day.
Also, free agent linebacker Joe Mays was scheduled to begin a visit with Redskins officials at 6 p.m. Shanahan would not say whether the Redskins intended to sign him.

Santana Moss found himself matched up with E.J. Biggers often in one-on-one, seven-on-seven and 11-on-11 drills and routinely got the best of him.

Hall got upset with Rex Grossman for not throwing the ball on a particular one-on-one play on which Hall had Lewis blanketed on a comeback route, and rather than throw the ball as Lewis turned around, Grossman held up because he saw Hall was about to jump the route. Hall jawed at Grossman after he didn’t throw and was still upset after practice when asked about the play.

Kirk Cousins hasn’t looked the sharpest in these first three days of camp. His play has been rather inconsistent. He has had some nice passes, but there have also been a number of overthrows and underthrows – particularly on his deep passes. Several times receivers have had their men beat, but have had to slow up and wait on the ball as it hangs in the air.

Fourth-string quarterback Pat White had another rough day of practice. His biggest problem – aside from his lack of size and arm strength – so far, has seemed to be confidence and anticipation. He holds on to balls too long, and then the windows of opportunity for completions close and he can’t find open receivers. White also had a pass intercepted by cornerback Ryan Mouton, and it was hard to tell who he was throwing to in the right flat, because no receiver was in the area.

Cornerback Josh Wilson is working his way back into form, and after watching walk-throughs the last two days, he took part today and has reclaimed his spot as starting right cornerback. Amerson joins the starters in the nickel packages, and Wilson slides inside to cover slot receivers. However, during the seven-on-seven and 11-on-11 portion of practice, Wilson again was an observer, and it was Amerson as the starting right corner, and Biggers as the nickelback.

Rodrick Muckelroy filled in for Fletcher as the starting “mike” linebacker, making all the defensive calls and lining up alongside Perry Riley. Bryan Kehl, who previously had played “jack” linebacker behind Riley, got work as the second-team “mike” and Jeremy Kimbrough served as “jack.”

1niksder wrote:Observations By Mike Jones

Hall got upset with Rex Grossman for not throwing the ball on a particular one-on-one play on which Hall had Lewis blanketed on a comeback route, and rather than throw the ball as Lewis turned around, Grossman held up because he saw Hall was about to jump the route. Hall jawed at Grossman after he didn’t throw and was still upset after practice when asked about the play.

I thought Keim's article on Robinson and Hankerson was way too critical and did not take into account the fact that Shanahan said Robinson was having a 'heck of a camp' during minicamp. Keim said Robinson dropped a few passes. Well, one was a long throw from Pat White, no further comment needed. Another was actually shown on film where he was tackled by the cornerback before the ball arrived..... Not Keim's best work. Looks he was busy exiting the Post to ESPN.

Add to the list RG3, who when asked who was the player he was most impressed with, he answered "Aldrick Robinson." "The way he catches in traffic now" etc.

I think everyone that talks about Aldrick forgets his play against the Bears in the preseason and his short catches against the Saints. They all say 'he's a one-trick pony going after the long bomb.'

Robinson's growth as a receiver is one reason the team is giving him so many reps now. I believe the other is because he's so fast, he's great for training the new secondary on the faster speed of the NFL. If they get used to Aldrick's speed and Hankerson's length, they'll be ready for everyone. Philip Thomas remarked already about how he can't believe how fast Robinson is.

1niksder wrote:

I thought Keim's article on Robinson and Hankerson was way too critical and did not take into account the fact that Shanahan said Robinson was having a 'heck of a camp' during minicamp. Keim said Robinson dropped a few passes. Well, one was a long throw from Pat White, no further comment needed. Another was actually shown on film where he was tackled by the cornerback before the ball arrived..... Not Keim's best work. Looks he was busy exiting the Post to ESPN.

Add to the list RG3, who when asked who was the player he was most impressed with, he answered "Aldrick Robinson." "The way he catches in traffic now" etc.

I think everyone that talks about Aldrick forgets his play against the Bears in the preseason and his short catches against the Saints. They all say 'he's a one-trick pony going after the long bomb.'

Robinson's growth as a receiver is one reason the team is giving him so many reps now. I believe the other is because he's so fast, he's great for training the new secondary on the faster speed of the NFL. If they get used to Aldrick's speed and Hankerson's length, they'll be ready for everyone. Philip Thomas remarked already about how he can't believe how fast Robinson is.

Garcon and Robinson on the field at the same time would be a nightmare for DCs who already have to deal with the read-option

LB Nick Barnett is set to visit the #Redskins, who are looking for depth there. He’s spent the last few months getting healthy. Stay tuned

Despite leading the Buffalo Bills in tackles last season, veteran linebacker Nick Barnett was released with a failed physical designation back in February.

The nature of Barnett's injury was never revealed, though he was limited by a knee issue late in the season.

A source who speaks with Barnett tells NFL.com's Ian Rapoport the linebacker will visit the Washington Redskins after spending the past few months getting healthy.

If signed, Barnett would provide depth at inside linebacker behind starters London Fletcher and Perry Riley.

Barnett was one of the few bright spots on a Bills run defense that allowed five yards per carry last season. On the flip side, no 4-3 outside linebacker surrendered a higher passer rating on passes into his coverage, according to Pro Football Focus.

Barnett's weakness in coverage makes him a better fit in a 3-4 defense, such as Jim Haslett's in Washington. Now that he's healthy, though, Barnett might have suitors beyond the Redskins.

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● Jeremy Trueblood appeared to have one of the most uninspired practices I have ever seen today. The ball would snap and he routinely played almost straight up, not even attempting to get leverage. At times, a defender would make a move to the outside, and rather than try to slide to the side to stay in front of him, Trueblood would stick out a hand, appearing to just go through the motions. Another time Ryan Kerrigan demolished him on one bull-rush blitz. Trueblood offered no resistance at all. It’s hard to see why he is even on this team still.

riggofan wrote:Wow.

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● Jeremy Trueblood appeared to have one of the most uninspired practices I have ever seen today. The ball would snap and he routinely played almost straight up, not even attempting to get leverage. At times, a defender would make a move to the outside, and rather than try to slide to the side to stay in front of him, Trueblood would stick out a hand, appearing to just go through the motions. Another time Ryan Kerrigan demolished him on one bull-rush blitz. Trueblood offered no resistance at all. It’s hard to see why he is even on this team still.