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SoCalSkinFan wrote:There is one reason that Al Davis will not do this trade for Samuels. It is very simple if you know Al. The reason he won't pull the string is because Samuel is not over the age of 35 yet. Al love to get the over the hill washed up players. That is why Al won't trade the pick.

Can we trade him the rights to Bruce Smith?

Cerrato is right, boys. Talk is talk. Let's see what happens. I'm seriously considering not going to Draft Day. My feeling is that if we move up by making that trade, we trade THAT pick for many more.
I ain't sitting there until the seventh round waiting.

Jake wrote:

Jansen has a nice, fat contract, too, but no one is jumping on him for sucking wind last year.

Jake, you're not really comparing the year Samuels had to the year Jansen had last year, are you? Jansen played much much better than Sammy...and deserves that contract.

Samuels has had two sub-par years in a row while Jansen has remained THEE most consistent offensive linemen on this team.

I know I'm not the only one that thinks this, either.

There is no way the Skins will trade Samuels. However, I hear in this board that Samuels isn't a team player because he won't give his money. Let me say that after getting re-structured for the past 2-3 yrs., I would think Chris would like to have one big payday. It wasn't his fault that the O-line scheme was schoolyard at best. On one of those Spurrier tenures, Chris made it to the Pro Bowl (I know it means nothing, but come on). He should have his chance to get his payday. If we continue to restructure his contract, he will likely leave with a bitter face. Let him this year have his payday, then next year we can rework his contract to benefit the salary cap. It all depends if he can reach all pro status this season. Also, like everyone mention again, the cap would be big if he's not in our team next year. So everyone... BE PATIENT!!!

--TRACY

Just what are you talking about, pudgeman? A big payday??? What do you think Samuels is making? $50K/year?? Everyday is a big payday for these athlete crybabies. I love Champ and was sorry to see him go, but it was all about the $$. I was a fan of Galloway when he was in Seattle, te he too went for the $$. I'm just getting sick of us feeling sorry that these guys aren't making what they're worth. They are playing a GAME for money. Life must be rough for them.

Champsturf wrote: I'm just getting sick of us feeling sorry that these guys aren't making what they're worth. They are playing a GAME for money. Life must be rough for them.

Man, I can't agree with this at all. These guys are part of an insane money making machine and deserve every cent they get. If someone is willing to pay them a certain amount then as far as I'm concerned that's what they are worth. Granted, you need to play up to the contract, but then again, no contract is guaranteed. You gotta get the money while you can.

Half of these guys can't get out of bed without major pain once they hit their mid-30's. They may be playing a game but they are paying for it with their health. Money is nice and making millions must be nicer, but when they retire at 35 they have the body of a 65 year old or worse. How much is health worth? I know that they choose this career and all that comes with it, but IMHO they earn that loot, that's for sure.

If I knew I could make a lot more money doing the same thing for a different company and they offered me a job, why wouldn't I take it? I can't fault anyone for that either.

We're biased because we want to keep the team together, but faulting a free agent for going after a huge payday isn't really fair, is it? Especially when 2nd - 7th rounders prove themselves while playing out a contract that isn't always indicative of their ability. Just look at Portis - he was making $500,000 a season and was one of the top 3 running backs for the last 2 years. That's not fair. But had he stayed in Denver he'd still be making way less than he deserved because of his contract.

Sorry for the long-winded sermon, but it is still Sunday...

yeah, i feel sorry for these guys when they can only get a 2 carat diamond in their ears instead of the 3 carat rock that iverson has. and you know that they've got to be jealous of all us guys that work behind a computer screen everyday.

this may just be a ploy on the redskins' part to loosen the agent's grip on samuels. chris hears rumors that the skins are looking to unload him because he won't restructure, he calls his agent and tells him to back off because he wants to stay a skin (i'm hoping). these rumors, i think, are just the skins way of calling samuels, to see what cards he's really playing. if he does want to be a 'core' guy, he'll think a bit more about restructuring. if he doesn't, then he'll let his agent continue being a hard-ass for no good reason, and possibly get himself traded.

Here's more of the same:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=d ... &type=lgns

I agree with most of the posters here - WTF? What do we gain from this deal? We trade our first round pick from a couple of years ago to move up 3 places? Trade a "proven" DT for a "unproven" DT doesn't fill any holes (DE, S, TE). And being a top two first round pick will require a hefty payday - so again we gain nothing....

Why not keep Samuels through his contract and then see what next year brings? I know we could lose him w/o any compensation but if we have a good year he may want to stay / negotiate.

This and stockpiling LB's doesn't make a lot of sense to me.