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yupchagee wrote:We only have 10-11 roster spots open.

What's the limit this time of year?[/quote]

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yupchagee wrote:We only have 10-11 roster spots open.


T Jackson is one of the 73
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1niksder wrote:quote="Deadskins"]
yupchagee wrote:We only have 10-11 roster spots open.

What's the limit this time of year?


90....

Current Roster = 73
Players Drafted = 7
Available Spots =


yupchagee wrote:We only have 10-11 roster spots open.


T Jackson is one of the 73[/quote]
I would think Jackson didn't count because he is suspended indefinitely and can't even practice.
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Some guys come in on a tryout basis. They do not count unless they sign contracts. My guess is that Xavier Nixon was signed, but until the team announces it, it's not certain who actually signed and who is just trying out.
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The Hogster wrote:Not only has Dominick Reyes not been invited in yet, but he's not signed anywhere. 2 other guys from Stony Brook agreed to deals, the scouts must have missed his film. I am sure he's worth a look unless he's on the no-fly list or something.


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The Hogster wrote:Some guys come in on a tryout basis. They do not count unless they sign contracts. My guess is that Xavier Nixon was signed, but until the team announces it, it's not certain who actually signed and who is just trying out.


But all in all we don't have to get our number down until a certain future date correct? I'm all for bringing in the most players we can. More competition & more possibility of finding a gem.
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The Hogster wrote:Some guys come in on a tryout basis. They do not count unless they sign contracts. My guess is that Xavier Nixon was signed, but until the team announces it, it's not certain who actually signed and who is just trying out.


But all in all we don't have to get our number down until a certain future date correct? I'm all for bringing in the most players we can. More competition & more possibility of finding a gem.


I think the roster limit in the offseason is 90 players. So, we can only carry that amount of players under contract at a given time. If we exceed that number, then someone will have to be released. The tryouts allow us to bring in additional players to see if they are worthy of replacing another person that we have under contract. Rarely happens.
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according to PFT the Skins have signed five UFA so far. The WR, a C, and a LB.. Nixon wasn't on the list, but they do still have five spots left..

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/02/redskins-sign-five-undrafted-free-agents/
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skinsfan#33 wrote:according to PFT the Skins have signed five UFA so far. The WR, a C, and a LB.. Nixon wasn't on the list, but they do still have five spots left..

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/02/redskins-sign-five-undrafted-free-agents/


He is one of the 50+ players that was invited to the rookie camp...

That group includes:

Ricky Barnum, OG (Michigan)
Skye Dawson, WR (TCU)
RJ Mattes, OT (N.C. State)
Josh Jarboe, WR (Arkansas State)
Jeremy Kimbrough, MLB (App. State)
Colby Walden, CB (Jacksonville)
Xavier Nixon, OT (Florida)
Steve Greer, ILB (Virginia)
Will Compton, LB (Nebraska)
Emmanuel Ogbuehi, H-Back (Georgia St.)
Jacoby Ashworth, OL (Houston)
T'Sharvin Bell, CB (Auburn)
Kyle Wilborn, C (Troy)
Matt McGloin, QB (Penn State)
Seth Thomas, CB (McNeese State)
Rod Chishold, RB (App. State)
Kenny Miles, RB (South Carolina)
Wade Jacobson, RT (Washington State)
Andrew Seumalo, DT (Oregon State)
Brandon Sharpe, LB (Syracuse)
Ryan Aplin, QB (Arkansas State)
Devonte Christopher, WR (Utah)
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Every time I watch Dominick Reyes' highlight video, I fail to see why he hasn't at least been invited to a team for a tryout. What is there that isn't at least worth having him come in on a tryout basis? I trust our scouting department, but to totally overlook this guy is puzzling. Maybe there is a medical or other issue that the teams know about but the fans don't. With what teams do with TE's these days, a 6'4 safety who can cover and hit like this isn't something you just turn away.

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The Hogster wrote:I trust our scouting department, but to totally overlook this guy is puzzling.

Plus the scouts of 31 other teams. Is it possible that a good player might be overlooked by all? Yes, it is possible. Legend has it that Jerry Rice was picked up only because coach Walsh decided to stay late to watch a low level college game on tv. :shock:

But it is also possible that our own Youtube scouting abilities and qualifications are not as great as we would like them to be in the real world beyond our limited resources. :lol:
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But it is also possible that our own Youtube scouting abilities and qualifications are not as great as we would like them to be in the real world beyond our limited resources. :lol:


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Redskin in Canada wrote:
The Hogster wrote:I trust our scouting department, but to totally overlook this guy is puzzling.

Plus the scouts of 31 other teams. Is it possible that a good player might be overlooked by all? Yes, it is possible. Legend has it that Jerry Rice was picked up only because coach Walsh decided to stay late to watch a low level college game on tv. :shock:

But it is also possible that our own Youtube scouting abilities and qualifications are not as great as we would like them to be in the real world beyond our limited resources. :lol:


We obviously can't armchair GM with much precision, but what you see is what you see. This guy has talent and ability that is undeniable, especially in relation to other players who at least get a tryout. He plays at a tiny school, but at least 2 of his teammates were signed as UDFA. Something is not adding up. I trust what my eyes tell me, and this guy can play well enough to at least get a tryout. My guess is there is something that has removed him from team's boards--whether it is a medical or other issue. Hopefully someone gives him a chance because I have a feeling that he is a good find.
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I agree on Reyes. Kid looks like a BEAST!!! I am surprised he hasn't gotten a call. There must be some reason. His twitter feed (https://twitter.com/DomReyes) has lots of people supporting him, and he seems lost as to why nothing has happened. Maybe the highlights were against very sad teams, and he didn't show out when playing tougher competition or something.
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Redskin in Canada wrote:
The Hogster wrote:I trust our scouting department, but to totally overlook this guy is puzzling.

Plus the scouts of 31 other teams. Is it possible that a good player might be overlooked by all? Yes, it is possible. Legend has it that Jerry Rice was picked up only because coach Walsh decided to stay late to watch a low level college game on tv. :shock:

But it is also possible that our own Youtube scouting abilities and qualifications are not as great as we would like them to be in the real world beyond our limited resources. :lol:


We obviously can't armchair GM with much precision, but what you see is what you see. This guy has talent and ability that is undeniable, especially in relation to other players who at least get a tryout. He plays at a tiny school, but at least 2 of his teammates were signed as UDFA. Something is not adding up. I trust what my eyes tell me, and this guy can play well enough to at least get a tryout. My guess is there is something that has removed him from team's boards--whether it is a medical or other issue. Hopefully someone gives him a chance because I have a feeling that he is a good find.


I couldn't agree with you more. I mean the videos scream out his ability as there's a consistency in every hit: guy runs in his direct, Reyes hits guy, guy goes airborne in the opposite direction, Reyes just calm jogs away.

My fear is that this is some kind of promotion failure. Kinda hard to believe with all the talk about this kid w/ the Redskins, but it just seems that no one knows about him (well, sorta).

His twitter page says "I just don't get it...Depth for Hire". Feel so bad for this kid, he DESERVES at least an invite to camp...I mean its an INVITE!!

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The Hogster wrote:Every time I watch Dominick Reyes' highlight video, I fail to see why he hasn't at least been invited to a team for a tryout. What is there that isn't at least worth having him come in on a tryout basis? I trust our scouting department, but to totally overlook this guy is puzzling. Maybe there is a medical or other issue that the teams know about but the fans don't. With what teams do with TE's these days, a 6'4 safety who can cover and hit like this isn't something you just turn away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eYn7XOb0Q5A


Hogster I wouldn't think it would be a medical issue or the likes because there wouldn't be so much confusion as to "why" between him and his friends. Good point none the less; has to be SOMETHING right?

Then again, maybe everyone around him is in denial if there is some obvious reason.

Only thing I can think of off hand is his majoring in Information Tech. Maybe they feel he's pursuing that more than someone truly passionate about becoming an NFL player :?

In an interview he mentioned that as his backup plan and he did seem a bit passionate about it...not sure if that has anything to do with anything though.
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Skinsfan55 wrote:Nixon is really intriguing. The only real knock on him I've heard is that he's lazy and doesn't play with passion...

That certainly sounds like something that can be fixed and is worth gambling on. Being given a chance to play football for a living, surrounded by passionate players who put football first, a division champion team... This could be a great environment for him.


Anybody else have any feedback on Xavier Nixon? I was reading a little about him today and agree he seemed like one of the more intriguing players among that UDFAs.

6-6, 314 lbs and he's been playing LT against some of the best in the SEC for four years?
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riggofan wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:Nixon is really intriguing. The only real knock on him I've heard is that he's lazy and doesn't play with passion...

That certainly sounds like something that can be fixed and is worth gambling on. Being given a chance to play football for a living, surrounded by passionate players who put football first, a division champion team... This could be a great environment for him.


Anybody else have any feedback on Xavier Nixon? I was reading a little about him today and agree he seemed like one of the more intriguing players among that UDFAs.

6-6, 314 lbs and he's been playing LT against some of the best in the SEC for four years?


6'6" 314lbs? Dude just has to fall over on people...neutralized instantly lol
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1niksder wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:according to PFT the Skins have signed five UFA so far. The WR, a C, and a LB.. Nixon wasn't on the list, but they do still have five spots left..

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/02/redskins-sign-five-undrafted-free-agents/


He is one of the 50+ players that was invited to the rookie camp...

That group includes:

Ricky Barnum, OG (Michigan)
Skye Dawson, WR (TCU)
RJ Mattes, OT (N.C. State)
Josh Jarboe, WR (Arkansas State)
Jeremy Kimbrough, MLB (App. State)
Colby Walden, CB (Jacksonville)
Xavier Nixon, OT (Florida)
Steve Greer, ILB (Virginia)
Will Compton, LB (Nebraska)
Emmanuel Ogbuehi, H-Back (Georgia St.)
Jacoby Ashworth, OL (Houston)
T'Sharvin Bell, CB (Auburn)
Kyle Wilborn, C (Troy)
Matt McGloin, QB (Penn State)
Seth Thomas, CB (McNeese State)
Rod Chishold, RB (App. State)
Kenny Miles, RB (South Carolina)
Wade Jacobson, RT (Washington State)
Andrew Seumalo, DT (Oregon State)
Brandon Sharpe, LB (Syracuse)
Ryan Aplin, QB (Arkansas State)
Devonte Christopher, WR (Utah)


The list on redskins.com does not include:
Ricky Barnum, OG (Michigan)
RJ Mattes, OT (N.C. State)
Josh Jarboe, WR (Arkansas State)
Colby Walden, CB (Jacksonville)
Steve Greer, ILB (Virginia)
T'Sharvin Bell, CB (Auburn)
Matt McGloin, QB (Penn State)
Seth Thomas, CB (McNeese State)
Rod Chishold, RB (App. State)
Kenny Miles, RB (South Carolina)
Wade Jacobson, RT (Washington State)
Andrew Seumalo, DT (Oregon State)
Brandon Sharpe, LB (Syracuse)
Ryan Aplin, QB (Arkansas State)
Devonte Christopher, WR (Utah)

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Post by Redskin in Canada »

Several posters are mixing a few signed players with most players invited for a try out this week. Most lists were issued before there was official word from the FO, most news relied on tweets and interviews. So, I am not surprised that there are different lists of players posted in this thread.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/foo ... t-signees/

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Below is the list of the players that have taken part on a tryout basis:


Quarterbacks
Ryan Radcliff, Central Michigan
Matt McGloin, Penn State
Ryan Aplin, Eastern Michigan

Offensive linemen
Kevin Matthews, Texas A&M
R.J. Mattes, N.C. StateKorey Neal, Eastern Michigan
Michael Repovz, Central Michigan
Andrew Robiskie, Western Illinois
Wade Jacobson, Washington State
Ricky Barnum, Michigan

Running backs
Rod Chisholm, Appalachian State
Washaun Ealey, Jacksonville State
Kenny Miles, South Carolina
Jarred Salubi, Baylor
Issac Williams, Baylor
Shawn Morris, Birmingham Southern (Brother to Alfred Morris)
Mike Mayhew, North Carolina A&T

Tight end
Gregory Hardy, Montana

Fullback
Kelly Johnson, Alabama

Wide receivers
Devonte Christopher, Utah
Antavian Edison, Purdue
Josh Jarboe, Arkansas State
Devin Starks, Austin Peay
Lance Lewis, East Carolina

Defensive linemen
Xavier Boatright, Presbyterian
Aaron Davis, SMU
Castro Masaniai, Oregon State
Andrew Seumalo, Oregon State

Outside linebackers
Brandon Sharpe, Syracuse
Toshmon Stevens, Florida State
Lanston Tanyi, Colorado State

Cornerbacks
Akeem Auguste, South Carolina
Avis Commack, Akron
Seth Thomas, McNeese State
Darryl Hamilton, Richmond
Colby Walden, Jacksonville

Free safeties
Luke Anderson, Wyoming
T.J. Bryant, Troy
Jamaal White, Northwestern State

Strong safeties
Durrell Givens, Iowa State
Ashante Williams, Illinois
Rodney Barnes, Richmond

Punters
Dylan Breeding, Arkansas
Jackson Rice, Oregon

Long-snapper
Jordan Cowart, Notre Dame
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Mattes was not signed but he was told that he would be signed if there were any issues with any of the lineman that were signed. He's off to KC next weekend for a workout and his agent is going to line up some others for the following.
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Apparently Nixon received a lot of praise from the coaches during the camp.
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Chris Luva Luva wrote:Apparently Nixon received a lot of praise from the coaches during the camp.

He's signed
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That's a TON of RBs -- in addition to the 2 that were actually drafted. I wonder why.

The only thing I can think of it that MS/KS aren't hot on Helu or Royster moving forward.
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