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Countertrey wrote:Football is an outdoor game. Mud happens... mud is part of football. Relish it. Some of the best games in Redskins history were played in the mud bowl of RFK.

+1

The field isn't the issue, it's Snyder. He needs to find a solution that allows him to make a profit but protect his players. But there isn't one. He'll have to make less money...

Burgundy&Wha? wrote:Bermuda grass goes dormant in winter. We don't want that. The field would look tan & brown. No thanks.

When FEDEX FIELD was first built along the Micheal Westbrook days we had Bermuda grass, and tan and brown is okay, that can be painted if need be. There is a difference in grass and mud. Looking at the field that was MUD with Sand sprinkled on and painted. Besides we are an outdoor stadium team on the east coast we shouldn't be having expectations for green grass in November, December or January and it that is the case then get a roof built and get some grow lights going.........If it's that important that we need that synthetic grass that is supposed to be so good........

Whichever prevents injuries most effectively is the way to go. No question.

I personally think that leans to turf. I am old school in that I believe there is something sacred about playing on actual grass, but we need to protect the players and turf has come a VERY long way. My high school just but in a million dollar turf field and it is literally like playing on grass.

I prefer grass. But, I'm sure that we can re-sod this field twice a year. Once during a stretch of road games, and once the week or so around the bye. I'm not an expert in agriculture, but I'm sure the players would rather play on re-sodded grass than a clay surface that looks more like Wimbledon.

Every year we have a stretch of games on the road, and we should be able to work it out so that we have a road game before or after the bye. That would allow the grounds crew 2-3 weeks to re-sod the field and let it take at least twice during the year. This is a billion dollar corporation and this is perhaps just as relevant to player safety than are things like Kickoff returns.


East coast teams with out door stadiums should have two mandatory periods for grounds maintenance. Maybe the league can have a specialist inspect the fields to determine the extent of re-sodding required during those time periods.

The field can be re-sod multiple times, it means nothing if the roots don't take. This field was terrible this year and I wonder why other than the BS excuses given about college games and concerts. Hell you mean to tell me they can't lay tarps for concerts if it causes that much damage??

DaSkinz Baby wrote:The field can be re-sod multiple times, it means nothing if the roots don't take. This field was terrible this year and I wonder why other than the BS excuses given about college games and concerts. Hell you mean to tell me they can't lay tarps for concerts if it causes that much damage??

Sounds like a safety hazard.

Snyder should just build a state of the art stadium in D.C. and use Fed Ex for all that other crap he wants to make money on.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

DaSkinz Baby wrote:The field can be re-sod multiple times, it means nothing if the roots don't take. This field was terrible this year and I wonder why other than the BS excuses given about college games and concerts. Hell you mean to tell me they can't lay tarps for concerts if it causes that much damage??

Sounds like a safety hazard.

I don't know Chris Luva Luva but a broke up QB seems like a safety hazard too......

The Hogster wrote:Snyder should just build a state of the art stadium in D.C. and use Fed Ex for all that other crap he wants to make money on.

Where in DC Hogster? I have no issues with going back DC but where is there enough space for it? Definitely not enough space to incorporate a stadium + parking.

langleyparkjoe wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Snyder should just build a state of the art stadium in D.C. and use Fed Ex for all that other crap he wants to make money on.

Where in DC Hogster? I have no issues with going back DC but where is there enough space for it? Definitely not enough space to incorporate a stadium + parking.

Tear down RFK & rebuild there. The SW area near the Nationals stadium. You'd be surprised what can fit where.

RFK Site

DaSkinz Baby wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

DaSkinz Baby wrote:The field can be re-sod multiple times, it means nothing if the roots don't take. This field was terrible this year and I wonder why other than the BS excuses given about college games and concerts. Hell you mean to tell me they can't lay tarps for concerts if it causes that much damage??

Sounds like a safety hazard.

I don't know Chris Luva Luva but a broke up QB seems like a safety hazard too......

Having patrons slipping and falling on a tarp is a law suit waiting to happen, basically it's not a good idea.

langleyparkjoe wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Snyder should just build a state of the art stadium in D.C. and use Fed Ex for all that other crap he wants to make money on.

Where in DC Hogster? I have no issues with going back DC but where is there enough space for it? Definitely not enough space to incorporate a stadium + parking.

I'd like to see them move to DC but that's not going to happen any time soon. Parking... LOL. Parking aint gonna happen. The only thing I could fathom is if they had parking available at satellite lots and some sort of public transport to ferry people to and fro.

Additionally, I doubt that there's enough teams wanting to use FedEx to justify it's existence without a NFL team in it. The teams that use it now will want to use the new stadium. So you're left with a stadium in the middle of nowhere LOL. Ugh, sad.

The Redskins lease on Fed Ex doesn't end until 2027.

It would be nice to have a new stadium during the peak of RGIII's career which--if all goes well--would be coming to an end in 2027.

It's sad that this stadium has aged the way it has. It's showing that it was nothing more than a bowl to get as many people in as possible. It isn't/hasn't and will continue to age terribly. I'm sure it kills Snyder a bit inside.

I'm just pulling this out of my... But could they build a stadium on the existing land. They'd lose quite a bit of parking I'd imagine.

The Hogster wrote:The Redskins lease on Fed Ex doesn't end until 2027.

The Redskins own FedEx. It's the naming rights The Danny leased until '27. Then it will become some other corporate name.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:It's sad that this stadium has aged the way it has. It's showing that it was nothing more than a bowl to get as many people in as possible. It isn't/hasn't and will continue to age terribly. I'm sure it kills Snyder a bit inside.

I'm just pulling this out of my... But could they build a stadium on the existing land. They'd lose quite a bit of parking I'd imagine.

Agree about the stadium aging (although I haven't been there is 3 years, so what do I know). I agree that it was designed to fit more people, but Snyders expansions of the stadium made it even worse in that respect.

However, I don't think Snyder is concerned as long as he isn't losing money.

There will be no new stadium as long as the current one can do the job. They may change to turf, but the cost-benefit of a new stadium doesn't make the venture worth it.

Deadskins wrote:

The Hogster wrote:The Redskins lease on Fed Ex doesn't end until 2027.

The Redskins own FedEx. It's the naming rights The Danny leased until '27. Then it will become some other corporate name.

Right. My post wasn't clear. Basically my thought is that there would have to be some negotiation on moving before then. Either the FedEx lease would have to be bought out, or there would have to be some kind of naming rights agreement with the new stadium & FedEx.

I know it kills Danny to know that he's got one of the Top 3 NFL Franchises, but has a bottom 3 NFL Stadium (including the playing condition). And, now we have one of--if not THE most marketable player in the league. It's like dating Halle Berry & driving her around a 1992 Nissan Stanza with rust & a garbage bag on the back window.

The Hogster wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:

The Hogster wrote:Snyder should just build a state of the art stadium in D.C. and use Fed Ex for all that other crap he wants to make money on.

Where in DC Hogster? I have no issues with going back DC but where is there enough space for it? Definitely not enough space to incorporate a stadium + parking.

Tear down RFK & rebuild there. The SW area near the Nationals stadium. You'd be surprised what can fit where.

RFK Site

That's is a pretty stadium in this picture. Why not move there? It ought to be cheaper than fixing Jack Kent Cooke Stadium, which would benefit from having a wrap-around roof to the grand-stand...like this one in the picture.

I like the stadium. The field is what sucks. I don't know why they can't fix the field and continue with the normal off season upgrades. Maybe they could build some type of mobile roofing structure.....

welch wrote:

The Hogster wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote: Where in DC Hogster? I have no issues with going back DC but where is there enough space for it? Definitely not enough space to incorporate a stadium + parking.

Tear down RFK & rebuild there. The SW area near the Nationals stadium. You'd be surprised what can fit where.

RFK Site

That's is a pretty stadium in this picture. Why not move there? It ought to be cheaper than fixing Jack Kent Cooke Stadium, which would benefit from having a wrap-around roof to the grand-stand...like this one in the picture.

What would be awesome, would be to hire the foremost architects & engineer's to design a modern reprise of RFK. If it were me, it would keep the unique shape of RFK, the partial roof like RFK had, but would include the modern amenities like a retractable roof, better sight lines, luxury boxes, HD Screens etc. It would be designed to not only capture the maximum amount of sound. But, would include rocking stands in each end zone that would be an ode to RFK.

I can picture stands that move up and down in each endzone and fans raising hell everytime the opposition offense was backed up there, or were kicking a FG there, or when the team scores. Dan Snyder, hire me to design the new Skins stadium in DC. Elements of past and present.

Snyder will be forced to 'fix' the field - he has to - ESPECIALLY as we look like we're going to be playing games on it in January

There must be a grass type or hybrid grass that they can use there


Love to have a stadium with a retractable roof and with the seats closer to the field

Hot tubs...what we need is hot tubs

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Hot tubs...what we need is hot tubs

And Funyons. Yeah. Funyons.

The Hogster wrote:

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Hot tubs...what we need is hot tubs

And Funyons. Yeah. Funyons.

HAHAHA!! Alright time to break out the old dvds

DaSkinz Baby wrote:The field can be re-sod multiple times, it means nothing if the roots don't take. This field was terrible this year and I wonder why other than the BS excuses given about college games and concerts. Hell you mean to tell me they can't lay tarps for concerts if it causes that much damage??

How long does it take for roots to hold though? More than a few weeks?