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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:18 pm
by FLWSkin
Welch, is it Pulaski county MO where I live?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:59 am
by ACW
FLWSkin wrote:
ACW wrote:
FLWSkin wrote:Ah...the Seattle suspensions had been announced....????
Seattle fullback Michael Robinson, one of the Seahawks' players union representatives, said he was concerned that news of the suspensions leaked out before the appeal was heard and about how that could influence opinions.
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Ah....missed that. Thanks.
No problem. Was from another link anyway.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:48 am
by welch
FLWSkin wrote:Welch, is it Pulaski county MO where I live?
I know it is south and west of St Louis, close enough that people drive to St Louis to buy ingredients...then create meth labs in their homes. The cooking fumes harm kids, and sometimes the labs catch fire.

I can't remember the name of the county so I won't pick one.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:28 am
by DaSkinz Baby
Better sign Kevin Barnes back quickly......

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:39 am
by SkinsJock
Hooligan wrote:Is it really that hard to stay clean? Seriously?
TOTALLY agree - I mean how hard is it to not take drugs that you KNOW might get you suspended ...

ALL players that make choices that result in hurting the team deserve to be suspended

actually it's probably best if they do get suspended because who wants really stupid players making really stupid decisions on the field

STUPID, SELFISH players deserve to be suspended

I hope the players make him aware how stupid AND selfish he is

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:45 am
by Deadskins
FLWSkin wrote:Welch, is it Pulaski county MO where I live?
How does he know what county you live in? :lol:

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:46 am
by Deadskins
He'll be back just in time for the playoffs.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:46 pm
by Redskinsfansince81
Is it possible his replacement could play better than him?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:54 pm
by SkinsJock
Redskinsfansince81 wrote:Is it possible his replacement could play better than him?
actually ... any plays made by our secondary would be considered an improvement ... just kidding ... really :twisted:

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:18 pm
by emoses14
Despite someone's mentioning it earlier, I had no idea the suspension was for adderall. Assuming C Grif doesn't have ADD, what is really the benefit of taking Adderall with respect to playing football?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:32 pm
by Mississippiskinsfan2
Common side effects of Adderall Oral:
Upper Abdominal Pain Less Severe
Chronic Trouble Sleeping Less Severe
Loss of Appetite Less Severe
Feel Like Throwing Up Less Severe
Throwing Up Less Severe
Nervous Less Severe
Easily Angered or Annoyed Less Severe
False Sense of Well-Being Less Severe


Infrequent side effects of Adderall Oral:
Feeling Restless Severe
Urinary Tract Infection Severe
Hives Severe
Fever Severe
Rash Severe
Trouble Breathing Severe
Allergic Reaction caused by a Drug Severe
Anxious Severe
Feeling Anger Toward Something Less Severe
Dry Mouth Less Severe
Incomplete or Infrequent Bowel Movements Less Severe
Inability to have an Erection Less Severe
Drowsiness Less Severe
Dizzy Less Severe
Low Energy Less Severe
Excessive Sweating Less Severe
Involuntary Quivering Less Severe
Taste Problems Less Severe
Weight Loss Less Severe
Head Pain Less Severe
Fast Heartbeat Less Severe
Heart Throbbing or Pounding Less Severe
Diarrhea Less Severe
Feeling Weak Less Severe
Sexual Problems Less Severe
Altered Interest in Having Sexual Intercourse Less Severe


Rare side effects of Adderall Oral:
Taking Habit Forming Drugs Severe
Depression Severe
Aggressive Behavior Severe
Worsening Symptoms of Tourette's Syndrome Severe
High Blood Pressure Severe
Heart Attack Severe
Abnormal Heart Rhythm Severe
Stroke Severe
Hepatitis caused by Drugs Severe
Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis Severe
Stevens-Johnson Syndrome Severe
Mental Impairment Severe
Hallucination Severe
Feeling Faint Severe
Seizures Severe
Chest Pain Severe
Life Threatening Allergic Reaction Severe
Giant Hives Severe
Reaction due to an Allergy Severe
Mood Changes Severe
Mental Disorder with Loss of Normal Personality & Reality Severe
Chronic Muscle Twitches or Movements Less Severe
Disturbance in the Ability of the Eye to Focus Less Severe
Double Vision Less Severe
Blurred Vision Less Severe
Dilated Pupil Less Severe
Feeling Unhappy or Unwell Less Severe
Hypertalkative Less Severe
Hair Loss Less Severe
Voluntary Movement Difficulty Less Severe
Behaving with Excessive Cheerfulness and Activity Less Severe

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:40 pm
by Countertrey
emoses14 wrote:Despite someone's mentioning it earlier, I had no idea the suspension was for adderall. Assuming C Grif doesn't have ADD, what is really the benefit of taking Adderall with respect to playing football?
taking any cerebrostimulant, such as this one, will improve your focus, concentration, and reaction time. A cornerback WILL play better.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:45 pm
by SkinsJock
emoses14 wrote:Despite someone's mentioning it earlier, I had no idea the suspension was for adderall. Assuming C Grif doesn't have ADD, what is really the benefit of taking Adderall with respect to playing football?
who cares - ALL of the NFL players know which meds are allowed and which are not ...

who cares what harm OR good the drugs do? THAT is not the issue .. if you use a drug that is banned by the NFL you get suspended

the player gets fined and WORSE - He really hurts his team ... STUPID

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:52 pm
by emoses14
SkinsJock wrote:
emoses14 wrote:Despite someone's mentioning it earlier, I had no idea the suspension was for adderall. Assuming C Grif doesn't have ADD, what is really the benefit of taking Adderall with respect to playing football?
who cares - ALL of the NFL players know which meds are allowed and which are not ...

who cares what harm OR good the drugs do? THAT is not the issue .. if you use a drug that is banned by the NFL you get suspended

the player gets fined and WORSE - He really hurts his team ... STUPID
I appreciate your singular focus SJ. But I asked the question because I cared about the answer to what good the drugs do vis a vis playing football. I didn't have an argument to make w/r/t whether it was a banned substance, if C Grif should have known/is responsible for not knowing/taking them anyway, or whether it was stupid.

As crazy as it may sound, I just wanted to know.

Thanks, CT and MS for answering.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:02 pm
by SkinsJock
sorry - it's just so frustrating - I heard an interview the other day on Sirius XM with a player that felt he needed to take this drug because he thought it would help him to focus during defensive meetings ...

he said it was a stupid mistake ... he said he's not even sure it was a help ... he had to sit out 4 games :shock:

I'm just pissed that so many of these guys are so talented athletically and so stupid mentally

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:37 pm
by yupchagee
DaSkinz Baby wrote:Better sign Kevin Barnes back quickly......
Or Atogwe if he's healthy. They know the system.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:15 pm
by fetus
I wonder if Mara administered the test himself???

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:39 pm
by ACW
SkinsJock wrote:sorry - it's just so frustrating - I heard an interview the other day on Sirius XM with a player that felt he needed to take this drug because he thought it would help him to focus during defensive meetings ...

he said it was a stupid mistake ... he said he's not even sure it was a help ... he had to sit out 4 games :shock:

I'm just pissed that so many of these guys are so talented athletically and so stupid mentally
I take Ritalin. I'm a 29 year old guy. It does help focus, big time. And it IS allowed...
Even if it does, the players union has tried to warn its members that substances like Adderall are banned unless a player receives a therapeutic-use exemption from the league. That process includes a review of an A.D.H.D. diagnosis by an independent administrator and other specialists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/sport ... d=all&_r=0

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:12 pm
by cowboykillerzRGiii
ACW wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:sorry - it's just so frustrating - I heard an interview the other day on Sirius XM with a player that felt he needed to take this drug because he thought it would help him to focus during defensive meetings ...

he said it was a stupid mistake ... he said he's not even sure it was a help ... he had to sit out 4 games :shock:

I'm just pissed that so many of these guys are so talented athletically and so stupid mentally
I take Ritalin. I'm a 29 year old guy. It does help focus, big time. And it IS allowed...
Even if it does, the players union has tried to warn its members that substances like Adderall are banned unless a player receives a therapeutic-use exemption from the league. That process includes a review of an A.D.H.D. diagnosis by an independent administrator and other specialists.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/sport ... d=all&_r=0
29??! Weird... Your screen name or something led me to think you were at least 10years older.. the hell ACW stand for?

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:28 pm
by DarthMonk
Mississippiskinsfan2 wrote:Common side effects of Adderall Oral:
Upper Abdominal Pain Less Severe
Chronic Trouble Sleeping Less Severe
Loss of Appetite Less Severe
Feel Like Throwing Up Less Severe
Throwing Up Less Severe
Nervous Less Severe
Easily Angered or Annoyed Less Severe
False Sense of Well-Being Less Severe


Infrequent side effects of Adderall Oral:
Feeling Restless Severe
Urinary Tract Infection Severe
Hives Severe
Fever Severe
Rash Severe
Trouble Breathing Severe
Allergic Reaction caused by a Drug Severe
Anxious Severe
Feeling Anger Toward Something Less Severe
Dry Mouth Less Severe
Incomplete or Infrequent Bowel Movements Less Severe
Inability to have an Erection Less Severe
Drowsiness Less Severe
Dizzy Less Severe
Low Energy Less Severe
Excessive Sweating Less Severe
Involuntary Quivering Less Severe
Taste Problems Less Severe
Weight Loss Less Severe
Head Pain Less Severe
Fast Heartbeat Less Severe
Heart Throbbing or Pounding Less Severe
Diarrhea Less Severe
Feeling Weak Less Severe
Sexual Problems Less Severe
Altered Interest in Having Sexual Intercourse Less Severe


Rare side effects of Adderall Oral:
Taking Habit Forming Drugs Severe
Depression Severe

Aggressive Behavior Severe
Worsening Symptoms of Tourette's Syndrome Severe
High Blood Pressure Severe
Heart Attack Severe
Abnormal Heart Rhythm Severe
Stroke Severe
Hepatitis caused by Drugs Severe
Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis Severe
Stevens-Johnson Syndrome Severe
Mental Impairment Severe
Hallucination Severe
Feeling Faint Severe
Seizures Severe
Chest Pain Severe
Life Threatening Allergic Reaction Severe
Giant Hives Severe
Reaction due to an Allergy Severe
Mood Changes Severe
Mental Disorder with Loss of Normal Personality & Reality Severe
Chronic Muscle Twitches or Movements Less Severe
Disturbance in the Ability of the Eye to Focus Less Severe
Double Vision Less Severe
Blurred Vision Less Severe
Dilated Pupil Less Severe
Feeling Unhappy or Unwell Less Severe
Hypertalkative Less Severe
Hair Loss Less Severe
Voluntary Movement Difficulty Less Severe
Behaving with Excessive Cheerfulness and Activity Less Severe
DarthMonk

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:07 am
by ACW
cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:29??! Weird... Your screen name or something led me to think you were at least 10years older.. the hell ACW stand for?
Just my initials :lol:

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:05 pm
by cvillehog
ADD drugs help people with ADD concentrate, and that's allowed. ADD drugs help people without ADD concentrate and that's disallowed?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:26 pm
by skinsfan#33
cvillehog wrote:ADD drugs help people with ADD concentrate, and that's allowed. ADD drugs help people without ADD concentrate and that's disallowed?
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Sounds like Cedric should have gotten a script for this made up disease.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:12 pm
by Kilmer72
Deadskins wrote:He'll be back just in time for the playoffs.

I heard something about his locker being cleared out and his number being given out to a practice squad player on ESPN radio. If this is actually true or not I can't say.

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:14 pm
by ACW
skinsfan#33 wrote:
cvillehog wrote:ADD drugs help people with ADD concentrate, and that's allowed. ADD drugs help people without ADD concentrate and that's disallowed?
,
Sounds like Cedric should have gotten a script for this made up disease.
:roll: ADD isn't made up.