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SkinsJock wrote:I hope to see the same effort and play from the defense that we saw last Sunday when Brandon was NOT on the field - when players play like our defense did last Sunday when Brandon was NOT on the field, they can totally help the offense tomorrow

there was a lot of energy from our defense and Merriweather was getting the players hyped on the sidelines both before he was hurt and after that

I don't usually do this but... It's what came to mind.

Bible wrote:Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

I say that cus your emphasis on what was done in Brandons absence. IMO, that hype is there with/without him but it's the "work" on the field that intensifies it and allows it momentum into consecutive drives...

These guys are hype before every game. But that hype gets killed the moment our safeties are getting beat. It gets killed when our DB's can't trust our safeties to be in position and/or athletic enough to follow through.

Brandons effort on the field validated his off-the-field hype. And it gave them momentum. If Gomes can match that level of effectiveness on the field tomorrow, he'll have the same effect.

I hope we can dominate the time of possession tomorrow. Sustaining long drives will help our depleted secondary immensely. As SJ pointed out we need to make sure our defense can limit the pies 3rd down conversions just as our offense needs to make sure we're converting 3rd downs (i.e. no dropped balls, false starts or holding calls).

3rd Downs, turnovers and penalties. If we can be on the favorable side for these three categories we will all have something to be truly thankful for.

riggofan wrote:Just beat Dallas. Twice!!!

+1

HEROHAMO wrote:Well lets at least put some gas into the Bandwagon to get ready. The next few weeks will tell us a lot.

First things first got to take care of TTiT.

The Bandwagon runs on DIESEL not gas , lol.

Its gonna take some good old fashioned smash mouth ball from here on out. Particularly on the defensive side. As for today, they need to hit Witten and Bryant HARD early on. Thats what Merriweather brought last week. Someone needs to step up and replicate that.

jmooney wrote:

HEROHAMO wrote:Well lets at least put some gas into the Bandwagon to get ready. The next few weeks will tell us a lot.

First things first got to take care of TTiT.

The Bandwagon runs on DIESEL not gas , lol.

Not only that, but it's been just waiting on passengers for two weeks, but so far, I've only got a few. I don't know how much longer I'm willing to wait, you better get on now. After we kick the Pies butts today, everybody and their brother is going to want on. And the rates won't be so cheap.

Thanks CLL - my point was that Brandon's enthusiasm on the sidelines seemed to carry over even after he was hurt

the defense needs to all pull together and continue to play like they did last week


we can do this

The Panthers loss hurt our chances big time, in the end we will probably fall a game or two short. With one of the worst defenses in the league RG3 and company will need to score a bunch every week and that is to much to ask from an offense.

Seems that there is one buzz kill after another tonight... let me be the first to remind folks that this game is OVER if RG3 does not throw that pick, deep in Redskins territory,which directly led to a big Dallas score...

That, sir, was on the offense, not the defense, and changes the way the D has to play for the rest of the game. The D can be called to account for a number of failures this year... tonight's game was not one of them.

The D went nearly seven quarters without giving up a td...
The game wasn't as close as it looked.. some poor calls good breaks and a lot more bs got thepukes within two scores.. we let off the gas to early yet again but this was domination and we will see more. Hail to the playoffs !

We REALLY needed RG3 to do his thing ....

we ALSO need Kyle to come up with better run packages so that we don't have to rely on some great plays by RG3 and his wideouts

loved a couple of those throws and catches at the end

I'm not thinking about the playoffs, right now. The only game I'm concerned with is the Giants next Mon.

I'm sorry - this is a fan site - we CERTAINLY can and SHOULD think we can be in the playoffs - WTF


win one game at a time, no worries - win them all and we're the NFC EAST champions -

we are not a consistently good team yet but we're getting there and I'm loving what we're seeing




can't wait to see this franchise next season too ... when we have an OC that will make better decisions

SkinsJock wrote:I'm sorry - this is a fan site - we CERTAINLY can and SHOULD think we can be in the playoffs - WTF


win one game at a time, no worries - win them all and we're the NFC EAST champions -

we are not a consistently good team yet but we're getting there and I'm loving what we're seeing




can't wait to see this franchise next season too ... when we have an OC that will make better decisions

If Kyle stays it won't irk me that much. Now if Hassel is still here!

not sure if either Kyle or Jim are here - actually I hope all 3 are gone ...

HOWEVER .. I'm pretty sure we'll see Mike back but the other 2 have a lot of work to do ...


the defense has not been bad the past 2 weeks but Kyle's play calling has NOT - he's lucky his QB and wideouts bailed us out

I don't know much, but I know I'm rooting for the Packers of Green Bay this weekend.

I hate when we play MNF. Sitting around watching everyone else play drives me crazy. If the Pack can get it done, we can pull ahead of the Giants next week with a win and RGIII seems to do some of his best work when he knows the world is watching.

capitaldefense wrote:The Panthers loss hurt our chances big time, in the end we will probably fall a game or two short. With one of the worst defenses in the league RG3 and company will need to score a bunch every week and that is to much to ask from an offense.

That's the realistic view, no doubt. Even so, I will be so glad if we are at least in the playoff hunt through December. You guys all know how year after year our season is over by the end of November/first week of December. I'm so sick of watching those meaningless games.

btw I think if any game hurts our chances its going to end up being the last minute loss to the Giants. The Panthers spanked us, never really close. But we had that Giants game and it was in the division.

SkinsJock wrote:not sure if either Kyle or Jim are here - actually I hope all 3 are gone ...

HOWEVER .. I'm pretty sure we'll see Mike back but the other 2 have a lot of work to do ...


the defense has not been bad the past 2 weeks but Kyle's play calling has NOT - he's lucky his QB and wideouts bailed us out

Man, I know you're not a big Kyle fan and have some legitimate complaints, but come on. The team scored 69 points the past two weeks. Our offense is ranked #7 in the entire league right now. No doubt RGIII gets a lot of credit, but there is no way Kyle doesn't deserve some praise and no way he's not back next year.

Fans seem to want to have it both ways on the coordinators sometimes. Haz is a bad coach because his defense is ranked near the bottom, and he cannot use a lack of talent as an excuse. But Kyle with his unit ranked near the top is a bad coach because he has one super talented player on his team?

I don't know if Kyle has been spectacular this year or not. But considering the questionable state of our offensive line going into this year, I think he's done a decent job.

riggofan wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:not sure if either Kyle or Jim are here - actually I hope all 3 are gone ...

HOWEVER .. I'm pretty sure we'll see Mike back but the other 2 have a lot of work to do ...


the defense has not been bad the past 2 weeks but Kyle's play calling has NOT - he's lucky his QB and wideouts bailed us out

Man, I know you're not a big Kyle fan and have some legitimate complaints, but come on. The team scored 69 points the past two weeks. Our offense is ranked #7 in the entire league right now. No doubt RGIII gets a lot of credit, but there is no way Kyle doesn't deserve some praise and no way he's not back next year.

Fans seem to want to have it both ways on the coordinators sometimes. Haz is a bad coach because his defense is ranked near the bottom, and he cannot use a lack of talent as an excuse. But Kyle with his unit ranked near the top is a bad coach because he has one super talented player on his team?

I don't know if Kyle has been spectacular this year or not. But considering the questionable state of our offensive line going into this year, I think he's done a decent job.

+1!

Seriously SJ! Criticizing Kyle after the past two weeks when we have put up +30 on the Egirls and Cowgirls is just not smart. It shows some one bashing some one else just because they don't like them, not because of anything that has to do with reality.

You think Aldrich freaking Robinson got wide the frak open on two long scores w/o a very well designed and timed play call. Or how about Niles stumbling bumbling Paul getting so wide open that he can catch the pass roll around,, stand up and back into the end zone before a very good secondary can get anywhere near him?

No I don't like some of his play calls, but overall he has been doing a fantastic job this year. So good a job that he if being considered for the Phily HC job when Andy Reid is fired.

This team has score a many 30+ point games this year in eleven games as we have in the previous NINETY games. Yes, that is almost six years!

Complaining about Kyles play calling this year is about as smart as complaining about kickoffs from a rookie kicker that is 10 for 10 on FG attempts and most of those have been over 40 yards. Neither is very smart.

riggofan wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:not sure if either Kyle or Jim are here - actually I hope all 3 are gone ...

HOWEVER .. I'm pretty sure we'll see Mike back but the other 2 have a lot of work to do ...


the defense has not been bad the past 2 weeks but Kyle's play calling has NOT - he's lucky his QB and wideouts bailed us out

Man, I know you're not a big Kyle fan and have some legitimate complaints, but come on. The team scored 69 points the past two weeks. Our offense is ranked #7 in the entire league right now. No doubt RGIII gets a lot of credit, but there is no way Kyle doesn't deserve some praise and no way he's not back next year.

Fans seem to want to have it both ways on the coordinators sometimes. Haz is a bad coach because his defense is ranked near the bottom, and he cannot use a lack of talent as an excuse. But Kyle with his unit ranked near the top is a bad coach because he has one super talented player on his team?

I don't know if Kyle has been spectacular this year or not. But considering the questionable state of our offensive line going into this year, I think he's done a decent job.

+1!

Seriously SJ! Criticizing Kyle after the past two weeks when we have put up +30 on the Egirls and Cowgirls is just not smart. It shows some one bashing some one else just because they don't like them, not because of anything that has to do with reality.

You think Aldrich freaking Robinson got wide the frak open on two long scores w/o a very well designed and timed play call. Or how about Niles stumbling bumbling Paul getting so wide open that he can catch the pass roll around,, stand up and back into the end zone before a very good secondary can get anywhere near him?

No I don't like some of his play calls, but overall he has been doing a fantastic job this year. So good a job that he if being considered for the Phily HC job when Andy Reid is fired.

This team has score a many 30+ point games this year in eleven games as we have in the previous NINETY games. Yes, that is almost six years!

Complaining about Kyles play calling this year is about as smart as complaining about kickoffs from a rookie kicker that is 10 for 10 on FG attempts and most of those have been over 40 yards. Neither is very smart.

we can do better WITHOUT Kyle

Kyle is not terrible but we'd be better off without him

actually - I'd rather have Haslett than Kyle


RG3 has made the offense work despite having this kid call plays

SkinsJock wrote::lol: we can do better WITHOUT Kyle

Kyle is not terrible but we'd be better off without him

actually - I'd rather have Haslett than Kyle


RG3 has made the offense work despite having this kid call plays

Ok, so how do you explain 2011 when the O was in the to half of the nfl in both ToP and yards per game? We had no WR, no OL, no RB, and certainly no QB! Collectively on offense our talent was bottom five, yet Kyle still figured out ways to get our players open and some how got Royster and Helu give 100 games in the last third of the season.

No I don't like all of what Kyle calls, but he has been a virtual Merlin conjuring up ways to get our WRs and TEs open! We still have barely any talent at WR, or OL, or TE, yet we are #7 in the NFL. Yes RG3 and Morris have a lot to do with that, but you still didn't address the fact that Kyle's pay calling gets bottom level hellbent wide open so RG3 can find them.

No we would not be better with out him!

No offence scores every play... Some people take stuff way to personal. Some plays that don't work, set up the next.play that does. Dropping nearly 30 points a game, top five in total O, top ten in points, yards, and number two in rushing??
Again sj the hell you want man?

SkinsJock wrote::lol: we can do better WITHOUT Kyle

Kyle is not terrible but we'd be better off without him

actually - I'd rather have Haslett than Kyle

Really?? hah. I'd be a lot more in favor of a new defensive coordinator if somebody really good was available. I'm not sure what evidence there is that we would be better off without Kyle.

Personally I liked all of the reports about Kyle working with RGIII in the offseason. I don't think we had even drafted RGIII yet and Kyle was down in Waco helping him get up to speed on the playbook.

vikings, seahawks and bucs lose....skins still alive in the wild card race

riggofan wrote:

SkinsJock wrote::lol: we can do better WITHOUT Kyle

Kyle is not terrible but we'd be better off without him

actually - I'd rather have Haslett than Kyle

Really?? hah. I'd be a lot more in favor of a new defensive coordinator if somebody really good was available. I'm not sure what evidence there is that we would be better off without Kyle.

Personally I liked all of the reports about Kyle working with RGIII in the offseason. I don't think we had even drafted RGIII yet and Kyle was down in Waco helping him get up to speed on the playbook.

riggo - I think Kyles a good OC - It's just that I think we could do better with someone else

we have a QB in RG3 that is not like anybody else - this kid is something really special

let's face it - Mike is most likely here for another year and Kyle is here with him - I'm just looking forward to having RG3 with better guys as HC, OC and DC

not really a big deal - it's just me - we're going to be fine with these guys and Mike deserves some credo just for bringing in RG3

we're going to eventually see a really good OC in here and that will be special



I'm just not a Kyle fan .. I just want to get to 8-8 or 9-7 and get ready for next season ...

IMHO - we're looking a whole lot better than we did in spite of Kyle