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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:57 pm
by SkinsJock
DaSkinz Baby wrote:My argument is just as lame as the records this team has had since the "Hall of Fame" coach has been here.
you heard it first here and straight from the horses' mouth
your posts lately have been a bit lame if you want my opinion - thanks for confirming that
look - we've got some issues but we also have RG3
EVERYONE here is pretty sick and tired of waiting but I think the wait is almost over - there have been some good teams that we've lost to that have had to pull games out at the very end - this franchise is close
I'm looking forward to seeing how we finish and then watching the developments this off season - I will say one thing - next season will be a lot of fun to be a Redskins fan - hell - it's a lot more fun watching this bunch this season even with all the issues we've had
It's getting to be fun watching our games again - the last 7 or 8 years have not been at all fun to watch or to even look forward to the next season
Re: Redskins' Head Coach Next Year?
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:08 pm
by por-tiz2skins
1niksder wrote:tribeofjudah wrote:Wait.....ARE YOU THE REAL Portiz-2skins....???
Good question.... Let's see
por-tiz2skins wrote:
BIG THANKS TO WHOM EVER EDITED WILL POOL AND TITLE:)
First sentence is bold and
ALL CAPS...
por-tiz2skins wrote:Im very sure Shanny will not be back if we go 5-11 or 6-10 because of these facts.
Almost a definitive statement, with a promise of fact to follow...
but NO FACTS follow
por-tiz2skins wrote:
-The team is not motivated or have been these
rs and maybe more.
Inaccurate statement being passed on as a fact... but if true this would be the first organized sports team in the history of sports to go through a rebuild, while getting younger, and offering opportunities based solely on performance that nets a unmotivated roster.
Moss has one of those "Vinny C" contracts and could have shown up 20 lbs. overweight and wouldn't have went anywhere until after June, Niles Paul went through a position change and this year was a gimme for him. Both of these unmotivated players took their time off to adjust their weight to fit the teams needs when they could have waited until OTA and training camp to do it. They weren't the guys that came into camp after dropping weight or adding weight during the off-season based on their roles on the team.
It might be p2s
por-tiz2skins wrote:-Very poor cap space.
A un-researched opinion stated as a fact... this sure seems like the work of THE REAL Portiz-2skins
There were 12 teams with less cap space than the Redskins when free agency started (CapGate hit right before the market opened), and Shanny had nothing to do with it. It's a known fact that the team did nothing wrong and if they had it would have been on Bruce Allen not MS.
por-tiz2skins wrote:-no first rounders for two years
Currently this is a fact... but teams still make trades and we don't know what will happen between now and April of next year or the year after that. I'm pretty sure there won't be another RGIII in either of those drafts.
Six in one hand, half a dozen in the other.... I guessing it's him but not really sure.
por-tiz2skins wrote:-Very Poor FA these past 3 years including Joey Galloway-Roydell Williams - Barry Cofield who is not a NT -Josh Wilson- OJ Atogwe - Stephen Bowen
Some are not BAD but highly over price when we could of gotten Cullen Jenkins at our DE we could of gotten Rogers or Arbrayo Franklin for a one year deal . We also re-signed London who was on a decline and I soley believe only did it for the fans . Even so since 2010 London lost a step in the 3-4 he never looked like he did in the 4-3 .
Horrible FA pick ups IMO and is why our D is awful.
In one thought he went from Very Poor free agents, to not BAD but overpaid, to Horrible.
Hare's a fact... as of today Cofield and Bowen combined have out performed the combination of the two lineman that were mentioned as better for the team (both individually wanted about what the the Skins paid to get both Bowen and Cofield). If the four of them were ranked individually it would be Cofield one, Bowen two, the dude from Phithy and then the guy with the funny first name.
If that doesn't prove that this is THE REAL Portiz-2skins
por-tiz2skins wrote:- Shanny per Jay Glazer did not like Shannys comments
This sure did
tribeofjudah wrote:Wow, I remember you
He un4gettable...
Welcome back p2s
I barley even post and your post is why i would leave again. Your statenents are very unaccurate how can you sit here and say our free agent have been good and we are motivated?.
This is why i hate some skins fans delusional to death .
- yes poor free agents even this year we picked up 4 and two are not playing and also one is injurrd and the other (garcon) is barley playing and likely should miss the reast of season.
- yes its shanny fault for cap he knew the rules he didnt follow.
Delusional delusional this team is horrible. And how can any on remember me its been like 3-4 years like thats not normal.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:11 pm
by por-tiz2skins
Im posting on phone im sorry for tripple posts :/
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:14 pm
by por-tiz2skins
DaSkinz Baby wrote:andyjens89 wrote:Cap space is Shanahan's fault
We had upwards of $35mm until Mara and Goodell said we violated the imaginary salary cap.
No first rounders = potential hall of fame QB. Either that or be stuck with someone who isn't RGIII....
You're really saying signing some vet min guys is poor FA signings? It's not like they threw $100mm at Haynesworth again.
Cullen Jenkins is not an improvement over Bowen. Fletcher is having a rough year, but he's had some injury issues. He was fantastic the past two years.
"Shanny per Jay Glazer did not like Shannys comments" Makes sense to me...
Horrible picks include: Riley, Kerrigan, Jenkins, Helu, Hankerson, Robinson, Paul, Neild... really not that bad
Haslett may not be the best coach, but we don't have very good players in the secondary. They suck, it's more than just coaching.
Kyle is not going to be a head coach next year. No way.
Philly's defense is awful this year, have you looked at the stats or watched them play?
Dude you seem to forget one fact ANY AND EVERY TEAM THAT PLAYS US LOOKS LIKE A SUPERBOWL TEAM. Did you not just see a 1-6 team beat us at home? Do you think the Panthers are better than the Eagles? LMAO if you do I want what you are drinking. It wouldn't surprise me if the Eagles drop 49 points on us. Andy Reid against Jim Haslett isn't a good match dude!!
Lol i agree he also tryi g to protecf shanny with the pick argument non of them are a factor.
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:18 pm
by markshark84
andyjens89 wrote:Horrible picks include: Riley, Kerrigan, Jenkins, Helu, Hankerson, Robinson, Paul, Neild... really not that bad
Really? Get real. Outside of Riley and Kerrigan those players are not good..... at all.
Jenkins, 2nd Round = injured Y1, Y2 11 tackles in 9 games.
Wow.
Helu, 4th Round = okay, but was already drafted over --- so he was basically a wasted draft pick.
Hankerson, 2nd Round = perhaps the WORST starting WR in the entire NFL. Total liability. HORRIBLE draft pick.
Robinson = which one, either way they both aren't impact players.
Paul, 5th round = so now a 3rd string TE that wasn't good enough to play his original position is a "good draft pick". I'd love those types of standards at my job.....
Neild = the dude had 1 good game in his entire NFL life.
That's pretty pathetic if this is the "success" list.
Re: Redskins' Head Coach Next Year?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:59 am
by Deadskins
por-tiz2skins wrote:yes its shanny fault for cap he knew the rules he didnt follow.
Delusional delusional this team is horrible. And how can any on remember me its been like 3-4 years like thats not normal.
Exactly which rules were broken? Please don't come back when we run the table, because we will remember you then, too.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:33 am
by DaSkinz Baby
SkinsJock wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:My argument is just as lame as the records this team has had since the "Hall of Fame" coach has been here.
you heard it first here and straight from the horses' mouth
your posts lately have been a bit lame if you want my opinion - thanks for confirming that
look - we've got some issues but we also have RG3
EVERYONE here is pretty sick and tired of waiting but I think the wait is almost over - there have been some good teams that we've lost to that have had to pull games out at the very end - this franchise is close
I'm looking forward to seeing how we finish and then watching the developments this off season - I will say one thing - next season will be a lot of fun to be a Redskins fan - hell - it's a lot more fun watching this bunch this season even with all the issues we've had
It's getting to be fun watching our games again - the last 7 or 8 years have not been at all fun to watch or to even look forward to the next season
I didn't ask your opinion and just because Shanahan knows what a pathetic job he has done chose RG3 doesn't make everything else he has screwed up right. No one should get a pass period. So what big deal Shanahan picked RG3 so he bringing in people like Joey Galloway and hiring that fool Jim Haslett should be forgotten? So if I run around and kill people and then save a baby from a burning building should I my past not matter? Because that is pretty much your argument. The good thing about it though is this everyone has opinions and they are like buttholes, everyone has them and they usually stink. You think watching getting beat by the Rams and the Panthers fun? I guess you call root canals fun too huh? Sorry when it's a loss especially to a team we should beat I have many words to describe it, but fun isn't one of those words. Between the incompatence of our entire defense, wondering what play Kyle will call to get RG3 destroyed or wonder why receivers no longer can catch or wonder why Morris isn't running the ball in the second half. Sorry it's not really fun for me................
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:41 am
by UK Skins Fan
My head hurts.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:59 am
by SkinsJock
UK Skins Fan wrote:My head hurts.
I apologize - it's silly to try and reason with some here
man oh man
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:19 pm
by DaSkinz Baby
SkinsJock wrote:UK Skins Fan wrote:My head hurts.
I apologize - it's silly to try and reason with some here
man oh man
Why is it about reasoning? Shouldn't it be about something positive? The Redskins are consistent in winning their opening game and coming up last in the division. We have been consistent in that manner for a while. People are scared that if Shanahan get's fired we won't do better, there are some of us that believe based on Shany's 2 plus years and the bad choices made that getting rid of him can't do any worse. The consistent thing there though is Snyder continues to laugh all the way to the bank, we all every year have some marketing ploy that gives us some hope only to see us last again in the NFC EAST and not even smell a playoff..........
That to me is my reality and if my posts aren't positive it's because I am a realist. We can do better but we won't because Shanahan is in way over his head and because this team doesn't like, fear or respect him and the lack luster play of the last 2 plus years pretty much shows that. At the NFL level everyone has talent. It's more than that and Mike nor this coaching staff can turn a turd into a diamond especially when the roster appears to just be going through the motions to collect a check. Are there some good things here? YEAH THERE IS #10 and #46 but there is also a chance that either one of them get hurt because of Kyle and Mike and their inability to be better at what they do...........
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:42 pm
by riggofan
Ooooh yes. Mike Shanahan, super bowl winning coach with 40 years of coaching experience is in "way over his head". Its a good thing we have internet brains in Clarksburg to break this all down for us.
This is just whining, not "being realistic".
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:51 pm
by Redskin in Canada
DaSkinz Baby wrote:Why is it about reasoning?
GOOD QUESTION!!!!
It does not have to be. It can alternatively be about emotion, frustration, desperation, anger and the downright good old need to
VENT.
Got it.
Hint: look at the Poll results.
Next thread.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:59 pm
by DaSkinz Baby
riggofan wrote:Ooooh yes. Mike Shanahan, super bowl winning coach with 40 years of coaching experience is in "way over his head". Its a good thing we have internet brains in Clarksburg to break this all down for us.
This is just whining, not "being realistic".
riggofan your a riot...Screw his 40 years and screw his skewed Super Bowl titles cause if Mike was 1/3 of the man you make him out to be he would give those rings to Dan Reeves who actually deserves them for building the team, just like Chuckie needs to give that ring he won in Tampa to Tony Dungy. But never mind your one of those people who drink the Kool Aide even when it's nothing but poison.............LMAO!!!!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:03 pm
by DaSkinz Baby
riggofan wrote:Ooooh yes. Mike Shanahan, super bowl winning coach with 40 years of coaching experience is in "way over his head". Its a good thing we have internet brains in Clarksburg to break this all down for us.
This is just whining, not "being realistic".
riggofan your a riot...Screw his 40 years and screw his skewed Super Bowl titles cause if Mike was 1/3 of the man you make him out to be he would give those rings to Dan Reeves who actually deserves them for building the team, just like Chuckie needs to give that ring he won in Tampa to Tony Dungy. But never mind your one of those people who drink the Kool Aide even when it's nothing but poison.............LMAO!!!!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:08 pm
by Deadskins
DaSkinz Baby wrote:riggofan wrote:Ooooh yes. Mike Shanahan, super bowl winning coach with 40 years of coaching experience is in "way over his head". Its a good thing we have internet brains in Clarksburg to break this all down for us.
This is just whining, not "being realistic".
riggofan your a riot...Screw his 40 years and screw his skewed Super Bowl titles cause if Mike was 1/3 of the man you make him out to be he would give those rings to Dan Reeves who actually deserves them for building the team, just like Chuckie needs to give that ring he won in Tampa to Tony Dungy. But never mind your one of those people who drink the Kool Aide even when it's nothing but poison.............LMAO!!!!
Just like the Gruden Raiders were the team the Dungy Buccs beat, huh?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:09 pm
by Deadskins
riggofan wrote:This is just whining
That's because he's DaSkinz baby.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:10 pm
by DaSkinz Baby
Deadskins wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:riggofan wrote:Ooooh yes. Mike Shanahan, super bowl winning coach with 40 years of coaching experience is in "way over his head". Its a good thing we have internet brains in Clarksburg to break this all down for us.
This is just whining, not "being realistic".
riggofan your a riot...Screw his 40 years and screw his skewed Super Bowl titles cause if Mike was 1/3 of the man you make him out to be he would give those rings to Dan Reeves who actually deserves them for building the team, just like Chuckie needs to give that ring he won in Tampa to Tony Dungy. But never mind your one of those people who drink the Kool Aide even when it's nothing but poison.............LMAO!!!!
Just like the Gruden Raiders were the team the Dungy Buccs beat, huh?
YEP shows anyone can win with a good team, even an over rated coach...Case in point...Shanahan............
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:12 pm
by Deadskins
DaSkinz Baby wrote:Deadskins wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:riggofan wrote:Ooooh yes. Mike Shanahan, super bowl winning coach with 40 years of coaching experience is in "way over his head". Its a good thing we have internet brains in Clarksburg to break this all down for us.
This is just whining, not "being realistic".
riggofan your a riot...Screw his 40 years and screw his skewed Super Bowl titles cause if Mike was 1/3 of the man you make him out to be he would give those rings to Dan Reeves who actually deserves them for building the team, just like Chuckie needs to give that ring he won in Tampa to Tony Dungy. But never mind your one of those people who drink the Kool Aide even when it's nothing but poison.............LMAO!!!!
Just like the
Gruden Raiders were the team the Dungy Buccs beat, huh?
YEP shows anyone can win with a good team, even an over rated coach.
Um, I think you missed the point.
BTW, your idol, Ray, advocates us replacing Shanahan with Gruden.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:20 pm
by DaSkinz Baby
Deadskins wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:Deadskins wrote:DaSkinz Baby wrote:riggofan wrote:Ooooh yes. Mike Shanahan, super bowl winning coach with 40 years of coaching experience is in "way over his head". Its a good thing we have internet brains in Clarksburg to break this all down for us.
This is just whining, not "being realistic".
riggofan your a riot...Screw his 40 years and screw his skewed Super Bowl titles cause if Mike was 1/3 of the man you make him out to be he would give those rings to Dan Reeves who actually deserves them for building the team, just like Chuckie needs to give that ring he won in Tampa to Tony Dungy. But never mind your one of those people who drink the Kool Aide even when it's nothing but poison.............LMAO!!!!
Just like the
Gruden Raiders were the team the Dungy Buccs beat, huh?
YEP shows anyone can win with a good team, even an over rated coach.
Um, I think you missed the point.
BTW, your idol, Ray, advocates us replacing Shanahan with Gruden.
I would take Gruden over Shanahan anyday. Gruden is still pretty young and doesn't think he is God. Shanahan needs to be put out to pasture......Like Gibbs he is dated and Football has passed that arrogant fool by. And when we get rid of Shanny I hope his fans go with him.....
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:34 pm
by SkinsJock
For those that may have not looked at the poll very closely ...
the POLL question was Whom would you PREFER as HC next season
I pointed out that I would prefer someone other than Mike Shanahan but I do think that Mike WILL BE the HC
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:39 pm
by StorminMormon86
SkinsJock wrote:I pointed out that I would prefer someone other than Mike Shanahan but I do think that Mike will be the HC
I agree with this statement.
On another note, I remember getting flammed for saying I didn't understand all the hoopla over Hankerson last year. When he got hurt all everyone seemed to keep saying was how much "potential" he had. He's awful. And most of our draft picks under Shanahan have been pretty worthless on the whole.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:41 pm
by SkinsJock
hopefully there are some fans here that will just leave the site out of frustration next season as well
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:03 pm
by StorminMormon86
SkinsJock wrote::shock: hopefully there are some fans here that will just leave the site out of frustration next season as well
Huh?
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:32 pm
by riggofan
StorminMormon86 wrote:On another note, I remember getting flammed for saying I didn't understand all the hoopla over Hankerson last year. When he got hurt all everyone seemed to keep saying was how much "potential" he had. He's awful. And most of our draft picks under Shanahan have been pretty worthless on the whole.
Don't break out the "I told you so" just yet. He's the leading WR on the team.
I read a pretty good breakdown of Shanahan's draft history with the Skins to date. The thing that stood out was that half of his draft picks have been in the 6th/7th rounds. If you're saying most of his draft picks have been worthless you can kind of see why.
IMO the biggest problem with Shanahan's drafts so far hasn't been that he can't pick players. Williams, Riley, Kerrigan, RGIII, Morris, Jenkins, Hankerson, Helu, Neild, etc; Its that he traded away high picks for McNabb and Jammal Brown. That first year was just a waste.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:12 pm
by StorminMormon86
riggofan wrote:StorminMormon86 wrote:On another note, I remember getting flammed for saying I didn't understand all the hoopla over Hankerson last year. When he got hurt all everyone seemed to keep saying was how much "potential" he had. He's awful. And most of our draft picks under Shanahan have been pretty worthless on the whole.
Don't break out the "I told you so" just yet. He's the leading WR on the team.
I read a pretty good breakdown of Shanahan's draft history with the Skins to date. The thing that stood out was that half of his draft picks have been in the 6th/7th rounds. If you're saying most of his draft picks have been worthless you can kind of see why.
IMO the biggest problem with Shanahan's drafts so far hasn't been that he can't pick players. Williams, Riley, Kerrigan, RGIII, Morris, Jenkins, Hankerson, Helu, Neild, etc; Its that he traded away high picks for McNabb and Jammal Brown. That first year was just a waste.
I'm not saying "I told you so", just I never saw the potential others claimed to have seen last year. Outside of RGIII, Kerrigan, and Riley I just don't see what others have done to contribute to wins for this team. But I see what you're saying about trading away picks. But that still puts the blame squarely on Shanny's shoulders.