Redskins. . . Win NFC East?

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:50 am

PAPDOG67 wrote:While I love the optimism and excitement on this board I think everyone just needs to take a deep breath and let the season evolve.

Umm . . . most of the posts in this thread (let alone the rest of the board) are saying we should keep expectations lower than we're tempted to. I think you might be confusing one or two posts with "everyone."

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:56 am

Irn-Bru wrote:
PAPDOG67 wrote:While I love the optimism and excitement on this board I think everyone just needs to take a deep breath and let the season evolve.

Umm . . . most of the posts in this thread (let alone the rest of the board) are saying we should keep expectations lower than we're tempted to. I think you might be confusing one or two posts with "everyone."

I actually think the opposite: we're tempering our enthusiasm too much!

This is what makes being a fan exciting. And, while, yes, the letdown can seem almost unbearable, it will be even more awesome if there's not a let down!

Let's get worked up Redskins Nation!

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:14 am

cvillehog wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:
PAPDOG67 wrote:While I love the optimism and excitement on this board I think everyone just needs to take a deep breath and let the season evolve.

Umm . . . most of the posts in this thread (let alone the rest of the board) are saying we should keep expectations lower than we're tempted to. I think you might be confusing one or two posts with "everyone."

I actually think the opposite: we're tempering our enthusiasm too much!

This is what makes being a fan exciting. And, while, yes, the letdown can seem almost unbearable, it will be even more awesome if there's not a let down!

Let's get worked up Redskins Nation!

I've been drinkin green tea all day, I'm freakn pumped! Lmfao I've been worked up since the trade for.picks went through. NOW I'm floating!

I'm sick of the realistic doom and gloom crap.myself.. let's get crazy and ponder the what ifs.
What if rex played vs NO... Would we be the team with the MOST yards on offense?

I'm like, that boy is s good as I thought, but showing flashes of being better much faster then anyone could have guessed. We certainly are competitive in the NFC east crown race our O line actually looks the best. (and I'm partial to rgiii too)
SHOULD we get 9+ wins this year? No. It'd make history duuuuh
BUT COULD we get 9+ wins? Absolutely. RGiii effects people around him.. not just lbs

16-0 yo!

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:18 am

cowboykillerzRED wrote:I've been drinkin green tea all day, I'm freakn pumped! Lmfao

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:45 am

Will RGIII make rookie mistakes? Undoubtedly. But the question should be Will he make more positive plays than rookie mistakes? Or will he make so many mistakes that he costs us games? I think the answer is no to these questions. Rexy made many, many rookie mistakes last year, and he's not even a rookie. :lol:

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:08 pm

I just can't buy the idea of us winning the division at this point. I want to, but 1 game is just not enough. The history of the team for the last decade plays a role (albeit a PTSD reaction role), but my real hesitation stems from the plan of the guys in charge now, which is all that really counts from history perspective. I don't think that we have the depth they want at OL, Safety and maybe corner. I think that depth is developing very well at linebacker, and already is there at RB, DL, TE, WR and QB.

So my concern is really that if the injury bug hits at the wrong position, we could be in trouble deeper than we can cover. As deadskins mentioned, our staying healthy is a big "if". I think by the time we finish this season and have a draft/free agency next year, we'll have the depth these guys want and we'll be whupping donkey.

chiefhog44 · Post by **chiefhog44** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:52 pm

KazooSkinsFan wrote:
Irn-Bru wrote:Yeah . . . that's what people were saying (perhaps myself included ) after a 2-0 start last year . . .

No one overreacts like some Skins fans both directions, do they? Win a game and we're going to the Superbowl and every member of our team is a HOF candidate. Lose the next game and everyone and everything about our team sucks. We've seen this story before.

These bears fans up here were brutal the last few days as well. Honestly talking super bowl after one win against the Colts. Bahhhhhh :lol:

Packers smashed those hopes real quick

chiefhog44 · Post by **chiefhog44** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:09 pm

Deadskins wrote:I'm getting tired of everyone trying to temper expectations. If we had had anywhere near this kind of QB play last year, we would have won the division easily. The only thing that stands in our way this year is injuries. If we can stay healthy (and that's a huge if, I know), the sky's the limit for this team.

Woulda coulda. It's pretty easy to speculate on the results of RG3 and last years record, but until we start winning, you can't help that people want to actually WAIT for the results while still supporting the team. It's not that I disagree that we would have been better last year, the fact is, you could go back every year and say, if we had this player and we would have been better. How about just winning the next game and not acting like one game against a poor defense, and an offense that played horrible, is a sign we're going to win the super bowl.

As for injuries, that's what every team says. Stay healthy and we'll win. That's just not possible. Every team will face injuries, and it's the teams that have good depth that will win. Hell, the Giants were decimated by injuries last year and they didn't use it as an excuse.

So if we start facing injuries, we'll find out if we have the depth to win. I feel like its getting better, but not there yet, but we'll see. Let's just win this weekend and not lay an egg. That would show me some signs of progress and I will then ratchet up my excitement one notch. Basically a show me attitude.

chiefhog44 · Post by **chiefhog44** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:12 pm

PAPDOG67 wrote:While I love the optimism and excitement on this board I think everyone just needs to take a deep breath and let the season evolve. Heck, the leaves haven't even changed colors and we're throwing out all sorts of predictions. Let us at least get to Halloween before we get a read on this team and the rest of the NFC East. Let us see how this team performs this week in Stl. If they control the entire game and win easily I will know this is a different team. I know we're on the road, but the Rams are pathetic. As horrendous as the Rams have been in the last 5 seasons (15-65) somehow they are 2-2 against us, with our only 2 wins bein a 9-7 snooze fest and a 17-10 victory. Let that sink in a little bit. So we've basically been .500 against a team whos average season in the last 5 is 3-13. Who do I want to see step up this week? The defense baby. There is no reason we give up any more than 10-13 pionts to this pathetic team, who will have Wayne Hunter starting at LT. I'm expecting big days out of Rak and Kerrigan, if not putting Bradford in the ER. Keep the game plan simple on offense again to start and things will open up. 27-10 with us never trailing or in doubt of pulling out the contest would be nice.

The Rams are better than people think. Fisher has already got that defense working well. They have a ton of top talent players on that team as well, so don't take this game lightly.

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:37 pm

I am not taking this game lightly at all. Judging from us only going 2-2 against these losers the last 5 years, but to say the rams have a lot of talent is kidding yourself. This is a game we should win comfortably if we want to consider ourselves "contenders." They won the turnover battle 3-0 last week and somehow manged to lose. Do you know how terrible you have to be as a team to pull that off?!?!?

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:41 pm

chiefhog44 wrote:As for injuries, that's what every team says. Stay healthy and we'll win. That's just not possible. Every team will face injuries, and it's the teams that have good depth that will win. Hell, the Giants were decimated by injuries last year and they didn't use it as an excuse.

No one is making excuses, and no the G-strings were not decimated by injuries. At least not at the end of the year. That's actually when they got healthy again with several players coming back from earlier injuries just in time for the playoffs. Right now, they are decimated at the CB spot (which is why Ogletree had such a big day), so we'll see how they react and try to cover for that. If we keep getting hit at safety by the injury bug, we may be in the same boat. No team can survive too many injuries at the same position.

aswas71788 · Post by **aswas71788** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:00 pm

Deadskins wrote:I'm getting tired of everyone trying to temper expectations. If we had had anywhere near this kind of QB play last year, we would have won the division easily. The only thing that stands in our way this year is injuries. If we can stay healthy (and that's a huge if, I know), the sky's the limit for this team.

While I may preach conservatism, I don't practice it. A couple weeks ago we went to Las Vegas. I put down $1,000 on the Redskins to win the Super Bowl. Good enough?

welch · Post by **welch** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:03 pm

I won't think about winning every game. I just want the Skins to win the next game. (Joe Gibbs said that so many times we ought to believe it.)

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:47 pm

aswas71788 wrote:
Deadskins wrote:I'm getting tired of everyone trying to temper expectations. If we had had anywhere near this kind of QB play last year, we would have won the division easily. The only thing that stands in our way this year is injuries. If we can stay healthy (and that's a huge if, I know), the sky's the limit for this team.

While I may preach conservatism, I don't practice it. A couple weeks ago we went to Las Vegas. I put down $1,000 on the Redskins to win the Super Bowl. Good enough?

Very nice! That should be a sizable payoff come President's Day. :wink:

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:09 pm

What were the odds? Total payout should be epic especially placing the bet before week one.. I'm pulling for ya! Lol I'm sure we all are!

HarleyHog · Post by **HarleyHog** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 1:28 pm

Deadskins wrote:
rskin72 wrote:reality of our past couple of decades (by and large) of futility arise to temper my expectations.

But we never had a QB during that time. That's the difference.

That is PRECISELYthe difference.

"always with the negative vibes, Moriarity. . . Why can't you say something rightious!" -'Oddball'

catch the wave of good play and ride it as long as you can. We all saw that our QB has the talent to win against any given team. We wont win 'em all, but we could win IT all. Other than Special Teams, the Skins have not yet shown any major weaknesses. Until and unless they do, assuming that they are imminently to collapse is counterproductive. Don't feed those thoughts, feed the ones that have Lombardi Trophies in them instead. As lousy as our records have been during the famine, we still have managed to be VERY close in a huge number of games. With such a VAST improvement at QB, it is almost inconceivable that we end up sub-.500. If this weeks performance is even just solid (vs. stellar) we can consider a division title as a possibility IMO

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:44 pm

and I thought I had a drinking problem ...

let's just all settle down and enjoy the ride ...

it's all good people ... just try and stay balanced :roll:

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:49 pm

btw - Danny Smith, the Washington Redskins' ST coach is considered to one of the best ST coaches in the NFL by his peers

fans are entitled to think whatever they like but if you think we might be better off with someone else - give us the name of someone who is available that might be better

OR

STFU - :lol:

34andcounting · Post by **34andcounting** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:04 pm

REDSKINS--------- 11-5 EAGLES---------- 10-6 COWGIRLS---------9-7 GIANTS-------7-9 Before the season started i had the eagles winning the nfc, but after week one this is how it will play out. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE WHO WILL.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:07 pm

SkinsJock wrote:btw - Danny Smith, the Washington Redskins' ST coach is considered to one of the best ST coaches in the NFL by his peers

fans are entitled to think whatever they like but if you think we might be better off with someone else - give us the name of someone who is available that might be better

OR

STFU -

I nominate SkinsJock; he knows everything there is to know about football! At least, that's what he says. :twisted:

chiefhog44 · Post by **chiefhog44** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:42 pm

chiefhog44 wrote:
PAPDOG67 wrote:While I love the optimism and excitement on this board I think everyone just needs to take a deep breath and let the season evolve. Heck, the leaves haven't even changed colors and we're throwing out all sorts of predictions. Let us at least get to Halloween before we get a read on this team and the rest of the NFC East. Let us see how this team performs this week in Stl. If they control the entire game and win easily I will know this is a different team. I know we're on the road, but the Rams are pathetic. As horrendous as the Rams have been in the last 5 seasons (15-65) somehow they are 2-2 against us, with our only 2 wins bein a 9-7 snooze fest and a 17-10 victory. Let that sink in a little bit. So we've basically been .500 against a team whos average season in the last 5 is 3-13. Who do I want to see step up this week? The defense baby. There is no reason we give up any more than 10-13 pionts to this pathetic team, who will have Wayne Hunter starting at LT. I'm expecting big days out of Rak and Kerrigan, if not putting Bradford in the ER. Keep the game plan simple on offense again to start and things will open up. 27-10 with us never trailing or in doubt of pulling out the contest would be nice.

The Rams are better than people think. Fisher has already got that defense working well. They have a ton of top talent players on that team as well, so don't take this game lightly.

As I said, the Rams are a better team then people think

KazooSkinsFan · Post by **KazooSkinsFan** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:45 am

Deadskins wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:btw - Danny Smith, the Washington Redskins' ST coach is considered to one of the best ST coaches in the NFL by his peers

fans are entitled to think whatever they like but if you think we might be better off with someone else - give us the name of someone who is available that might be better

OR

STFU -

I nominate SkinsJock; he knows everything there is to know about football! At least, that's what he says.

Um...sig?...

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:48 am

Mine or his? :lol:

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:50 am

Deadskins wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:btw - Danny Smith, the Washington Redskins' ST coach is considered to one of the best ST coaches in the NFL by his peers

fans are entitled to think whatever they like but if you think we might be better off with someone else - give us the name of someone who is available that might be better

I nominate SkinsJock; he knows everything there is to know about football! At least, that's what he says.

thanks - some here take things way too seriously :lol:

a while ago I realized that despite not knowing much about the game, I did not need to specify that my posts were just my opinion and ESPECIALLY on a Redskins fan site where many clearly had no clue about what they were posting

btw - how's the communication with Andre Carter going? - about as well as my communications with the FO, I imagine :twisted:

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:56 am

I don't think the Redskins players or coaches took the game lightly AT ALL

Mike has a great deal of respect for Jeff and we all saw that the Rams were a little unlucky against a very good lions club in detroit

the refs basically lost control of this game early on and the Rams were able to take better advantage of that

we lost - we were NOT going 16-0 - we're an 8 to 10 win team and we still are ..