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ey is the definition of "bleed B&G".. one of the funniest NFL players ever w his ey zone, blogs, videos, and almost reality show. His hatred for the pukes is epic, he is a true leader, aswell as prankster.. I wish my boss was ey hell I'd enjoy going to work more that's for sure.
As for his performance on field he is a beast and i won't give anyone the time of day that argues that at all. Top three? Eh maybe his best year but top ten no doubt. I see this year being a big year for him now that he is fully healed and will have all of the offseason to prepare properly w the staff. I see him helping rgiii get up to NFL speed w his veteran insight and ability to make plays but also and just as if not more importantly show him how to have fun out there and enjoy being a pro.

Cooooooooooooooooooooooo!

andyjens89 wrote:Cooley is the man. Great player and no off-field issues. Plus he married a Redskins cheerleader and was hand-picked by Joe Gibbs. What's not to love?

His production and health?

[ducks]

1niksder wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:Cooley has played well for the Redskins and I would not be surprised to see him here again

He's not the player he was

AND

the fact is Davis is not known for making great decisions off the field

He's not the player he was because he's been hurt the last two years, He has come back from his injuries a few times without showing any drop off. I don't see why he wouldn't be back, although he might have to restructure his contract.

Being the guy that he is I don't see that as a problem either

maybe I did not make it clear that ey has some intangibles that will help this franchise DESPITE the fact that he's not as good as he was

I would be V surprised if he's not here - he will continue to help this offense

Irn-Bru wrote:

andyjens89 wrote:Cooley is the man. Great player and no off-field issues. Plus he married a Redskins cheerleader and was hand-picked by Joe Gibbs. What's not to love?

His production and health?

[ducks]

How can you not like ducks!?!

andyjens89 wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:

andyjens89 wrote:Cooley is the man. Great player and no off-field issues. Plus he married a Redskins cheerleader and was hand-picked by Joe Gibbs. What's not to love?

His production and health?

[ducks]

How can you not like ducks!?!

Yeah man, he must be quackers!!!



(I'll get my coat....)

Deadskins wrote:

ATX_Skins wrote:Look, I don't think ey is a top TE in this league.

And you are wrong.

Deadskins, I don't really care what your opinion is either.

ATX_Skins wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

ATX_Skins wrote:Look, I don't think ey is a top TE in this league.

And you are wrong.

Deadskins, I don't really care what your opinion is either.

That wasn't his opinion, he was just stating the facts.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

ATX_Skins wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

ATX_Skins wrote:Look, I don't think ey is a top TE in this league.

And you are wrong.

Deadskins, I don't really care what your opinion is either.

That wasn't his opinion, he was just stating the facts.

To be fair, it's also my opinion.

Wow... a double whammy... a fact that is also an opinion...

You win!

SouthLondonRedskin wrote:

andyjens89 wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:

andyjens89 wrote:Cooley is the man. Great player and no off-field issues. Plus he married a Redskins cheerleader and was hand-picked by Joe Gibbs. What's not to love?

His production and health?

[ducks]

How can you not like ducks!?!

Yeah man, he must be quackers!!!



(I'll get my coat....)

frankcal20 wrote:One other thing though is that the Redskins are going to most likely play a lot of 21 personnel (2TE's, 1 RB)

21 personnel = 2 RB's and 1 TE. You are referring to a 12 personnel. Anyway, I agree

Countertrey wrote:Wow... a double whammy... a fact that is also an opinion...

You win!

Those are the best type of facts! Opinionated facts rule!!!

Cooley said his knee feels good. He also weighs 237 pounds, the lightest of his career.

“I feel the best I’ve felt,” he said. “It’s to the point that I trust I’m healthy. It’s tough to know but I’ve worked hard enough and ran hard enough and I’ve had no swelling.”

What ey doesn't say is his knee is 100%. What he does say doesn't sound like confidence in his knee.

According to a team source, the Redskins haven’t approached ey about restructuring his contract either.

I see this as not good news for ey.
I am thinking, that the Skins will not approach ey about restructuring until they know that for sure he will be on the roster.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/sports/re ... ove/637926

Rich Tandler:

Chris ey looking very fit, no wraps or braces on knee. Moving and cutting very well.

Contrary to Tandler's post, it was posted on the boards that ey appeared to be favoring one of his legs in the OTA video posted.

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 557#579557

http://blog.redskins.com/2012/05/21/vid ... 12-season/

http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandle ... ubble.html

Red_One43 wrote:Rich Tandler:

Chris ey looking very fit, no wraps or braces on knee. Moving and cutting very well.

Contrary to Tandler's post, it was posted on the boards that ey appeared to be favoring one of his legs in the OTA video posted.

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 557#579557

http://blog.redskins.com/2012/05/21/vid ... 12-season/

http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandle ... ubble.html

I hear his weight is down too. He may struggle to carry the weight needed while maintaining a healthy knee. He could be in some trouble. Always thought of him as one of Gibbs' good choices. I'd hate to see him go but if he must ...

DarthMonk

DarthMonk wrote:

Red_One43 wrote:Rich Tandler:

Chris ey looking very fit, no wraps or braces on knee. Moving and cutting very well.

Contrary to Tandler's post, it was posted on the boards that ey appeared to be favoring one of his legs in the OTA video posted.

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic. ... 557#579557

http://blog.redskins.com/2012/05/21/vid ... 12-season/

http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandle ... ubble.html

I hear his weight is down too. He may struggle to carry the weight needed while maintaining a healthy knee. He could be in some trouble. Always thought of him as one of Gibbs' good choices. I'd hate to see him go but if he must ...

DarthMonk

He can't lose too much more weight. At the beginning of last year he was down to 235lbs. My son was at his football camp last June (and will be again this June) and he looked too thin to be an NFL TE. I hope that he hasn't gotten any smaller.

Red_One43 wrote:[ ... the Skins will not approach ey about restructuring until they know that for sure he will be on the roster.

+1 - all players will compete for roster spots
ey will have to earn his spot too - nothing is taken for granted here anymore

ey is preparing the best he can - losing weight might be a good thing in his estimation but may not suit what the coaches want

From Rich Tandler:

4. I will have a full article on Chris ey later today or tomorrow but I was surprised to hear him say that his weight is down to 237. That’s 18 pounds lighter than his listed weight of 255 and just a couple of pounds heavier than converted wide receiver Niles Paul. The lighter weight is great for running routes but not necessarily good when it comes to taking on 270-pound linebackers. We will see if ey can make up for his reduced bulk with leverage and technique when he needs to block. The answer to that will have to wait until training camp, when full-contact blocking is allowed, and the preseason games.

3. Speaking of Paul, he looked very good yesterday. Every time you looked up he was catching another dart from Griffin. That doesn’t mean that he is going to jump ahead of ey or Fred Davis on the depth chart but it can’t hurt to develop a good rapport with the starting quarterback.

http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/05/rts-5-cooley-sheds-some-pounds.html#tp

Can all 3 guys (Davis, ey, Paul) really be productive? I can see Paul really having a good year, he's my guess for breakout player. With ey and Paul both being small for TE's, maybe we see Davis having a more prototypical role?

...If all 3 guys are on the final 53, I think we'll see sets with all of them down near the goal line.

SkinsJock wrote:+1 - all players will compete for roster spots
ey will have to earn his spot too - nothing is taken for granted here anymore

except apparently at Quarterback where In order to avoid annoying daily questions, it was necessary to name a stater before allowing anyone else to compete. a starter by the way who's never thrown an NFL pass before and who was the redskins plan B after they met with Peyton manning first but were told no.

ownership.

TeeterSalad wrote:From Rich Tandler:

4. I will have a full article on Chris ey later today or tomorrow but I was surprised to hear him say that his weight is down to 237. That’s 18 pounds lighter than his listed weight of 255 and just a couple of pounds heavier than converted wide receiver Niles Paul. The lighter weight is great for running routes but not necessarily good when it comes to taking on 270-pound linebackers. We will see if ey can make up for his reduced bulk with leverage and technique when he needs to block. The answer to that will have to wait until training camp, when full-contact blocking is allowed, and the preseason games.

3. Speaking of Paul, he looked very good yesterday. Every time you looked up he was catching another dart from Griffin. That doesn’t mean that he is going to jump ahead of ey or Fred Davis on the depth chart but it can’t hurt to develop a good rapport with the starting quarterback.

http://www.realredskins.com/rich-tandlers-real-redsk/2012/05/rts-5-cooley-sheds-some-pounds.html#tp

Can all 3 guys (Davis, ey, Paul) really be productive? I can see Paul really having a good year, he's my guess for breakout player. With ey and Paul both being small for TE's, maybe we see Davis having a more prototypical role?

...If all 3 guys are on the final 53, I think we'll see sets with all of them down near the goal line.

I think it's a big leap of faith to suggest that Paul might be a breakout player this year. To be fair though, you did say it was a guess!

The tight end position is one of the many interesting position battles to observe this offseason. I won't pretend that I have ANY idea how many tight ends will even be on the final roster. The intrigue surrounding ey's health and Paul changing positions makes the situation hard to call. The other wildcard is the Davis situation, and whether the management feel they can trust him to stay clean from now on.

It will be very interesting to see what ey does this year coming off his injury. I am skeptical, but he has proven that when healthy, he is a top TE in the league. The big question mark is whether he is in fact healthy and if he can go back to being 100%. Last year, it was obvious he was hurting and he did not play well.

Davis proved last year that he can be a very good NFL TE. I wouldn't want to see his time diminsh, but they need to figure out a way to get everyone on the field -- especially with all the WR pickups. You could have used more 2 TE sets, but with all our weapons at WR, it may be better to have 4 WRs & 1 TE over 3WR & 2 TEs (in circumstances that warrant it).

I personally, don't see Paul seeing that much time barring injury. However, the likelihood of an injury is high given the long season.

markshark84 wrote:It will be very interesting to see what ey does this year coming off his injury. I am skeptical, but he has proven that when healthy, he is a top TE in the league. The big question mark is whether he is in fact healthy and if he can go back to being 100%. Last year, it was obvious he was hurting and he did not play well.

ey wasn't healthy in 2010 when he put up top three TE numbers. He was just worse in 11 than he was in 10. A long as his knee is as good as it was in 10 he wil put up top ten numbers.

If he is truely healthy must of the season, then he will again put up PB numbers like he did in 2010.

106.7 has been talking about weather or not we should keep ey for the past couple of days and they have no idea how good ey has been. I don't think most fans do either. Here is how he ranked against other TEs:



Sure he has been injured in 2009 and 2011, but in the past four seasons (including the two he was hurt) he has been a top three TE twice. AND over the past seven seasons he has been a top eight TE for every year he wasn't injured (5 out 7 seasons) and top five 4 out of 7.

Everyone says that you can't pay ey the money he is making to be a backup TE. I contend, that if healthy, ey will be the starter at TE and not Davis.

ey is older but proven! Davis has never posted top ten numbers and there is no guarantee he will post better numbers than ey. ey should post better numbers if healthy. Now that is a big if, but FD has a big if hanging over his head too. His season could go up in smoke just as easy as ey could get injured!

Besides what is wrong with having two TEs capable catching 60 balls (even though Davis never has)?

skinsfan#33 wrote: ... Everyone says that you can't pay ey the money he is making to be a backup TE. I contend, that if healthy, ey will be the starter at TE and not Davis.

ey is older but proven! Davis has never posted top ten numbers and there is no guarantee he will post better numbers than ey. ey should post better numbers if healthy. Now that is a big if, but FD has a big if hanging over his head too. His season could go up in smoke just as easy as ey could get injured!

Besides what is wrong with having two TEs capable catching 60 balls (even though Davis never has)?

we'll see - I'm a ey fan but Davis is the better TE at this time

I totally do not agree with the assumption that Davis is just as likely to be banned by the NFL as ey is likely to be injured
WHY?

ey will have an opportunity to make the roster and I think he's here for 1 more year - IF he's healthy

SkinsJock wrote:I'm a ey fan but Davis is the better TE at this time

What are you basing this on? ey's health? Because the numbers just don't bear that out.