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chiefhog44 wrote:http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8258b581/article/sorry-grossman-redskins-still-hunting-for-franchise-qb?module=HP11_around-the-league

This is encouraging to hear these guys aren't sniffing glue. I was getting kind of nervous that they may actually think they can win with Rex

I heard this today but I have a feeling that we're going to end up drafting our QB on day 2 or even 3 for that matter. I think that Mike Shanahan loves finding diamonds in the rough. Raw guys that he can mold instead of guys who are already molded but not how he likes them. If he does it and it works. I'm going to go nuts if it doesn't, I'll probably go nuts but in a different way.

Despite a banner senior campaign during which Crompton revived an aerial game that ranked 107th in the nation in 2008 (145.83 yards per game) to 46th nationally in 2009 (226.31 ypg), the Vols' quarterback failed to secure an invitation to the NFL Combine. He used the 2010 Texas vs. Nation showcase to open more than a few eyes around the league, thrusting himself into serious consideration to be drafted.

An organization willing to roll the dice and select Crompton might find the steal of the draft arriving at their training complex.

After gaining just 1,387 yards passing during his first 22 games at Tennessee, he emerged in 2009, generating 2,800 aerial yards, the eighth-best season total in 2009. That season, he threw for 27 touchdowns. Just two other quarterbacks in the history of Tennessee football had more scoring strikes in a season.

At Tuscola High School, Crompton earned Parade All-American honors and was the recipient of the "Army of One" Award while participating for East squad in the 2005 U.S. Army All-American Bowl. He also played for North Carolina in the 2004 Shrine Bowl. As a senior, he added Orlando Sentinel All-Southern Team and Atlanta Journal-Constitution Super Southern 100 accolades. He was also a two-time Class 3A All-State and All-Western Carolina pick while twice being named All-Mountain Athletic Player of the Year.

In his final season, Crompton passed for 2,423 yards and 24 touchdowns while rushing for 801 yards and 17 scores. The three-year starting quarterback also threw for 2,323 yards and 23 touchdowns as junior, adding 2,011 yards and 22 touchdowns during his sophomore season. He also performed as a safety and punter as senior, recording 147 tackles and three interceptions along with a 44.6-yard punting average. In addition to his performance on the football field, he was a three-time All-Conference shortstop for the school's baseball team.

Heavily recruited by Phil Fulmer, Crompton enrolled at Tennessee in 2005, spending that season redshirting on the scout team. He appeared in seven games in 2006, starting vs. Louisiana State for an injured Erik Ainge. He went on to gain 401 yards with four touchdowns and two interceptions on 31-of-66 attempts (46.97%) for the Vols.

Ainge held on to the starting quarterback position in 2007, relegating Crompton to seven games of reserve duty that year. He managed just 7-of-12 passes for 97 yards, one touch-down and two interceptions in that role.

Expecting to be the starting quarterback in 2008, Crompton had to first beat out Nick Stephens for that assignment. There were questions about Crompton's development and work ethic last year, leading some to believe that possibly redshirt freshman B.J. Coleman was better suited for the starting job. But Crompton buckled down and earned the starting job coming out of August camp. However, he struggled with consistency as the offense floundered and was eventually replaced in the lineup, as Fulmer battled to salvage the season and preserve his job as head coach.

Crompton played in eight games, starting six as a junior. A concussion and an ankle sprain vs. UCLA were obstacles. He finished with just 889 yards, four touchdowns and five interceptions on 86-of-167 passes (51.5 percent), but averaged just 114.5 total yards per game, as the Vols ranked 115th among the 119 major college teams with an average of 268.75 yards per game in total offense.

Fulmer was replaced by Lane Kiffin as head coach in 2009 and the new staff made a concerted effort to get Crompton's confidence back, spending the bulk of the off-season working on mechanical refinement. The changes were evident, as the senior connected on 224-of-384 passes (58.33%) for 2,800 yards, 27 touchdowns and 13 interceptions, starting all but the Auburn contest, as he was benched for ineffective play. That "reality check" proved effective, as the quarterback would throw for at least 200 yards in six of his next eight contests.

Accuracy: Made significant improvements in this area as a senior, but remains highly inconsistent. Threw accurately to all levels at times as a senior, but struggled mightily with accuracy throughout his early career, including as a junior. Good timing and accuracy to hit the receiver in stride on the slant, dig and deep crossing routes. Good touch to place the ball between the linebacker and safety down the seam or on wheel routes. Good touch and accuracy for the dump-off routes to the back, allowing them to make the catch easily and head upfield.

Arm Strength: Strong arm. Can make every NFL throw without extending his windup. Puts enough zip on his underneath throws to fit through the tight winds of an NFL defense, including placing the deep out from the opposite hash. Good trajectory on the deep ball. Ball comes down at an angle that is easy to track and catch, but doesn't hang in the air. If he struggles in the NFL, it won't be due to a lack of arm strength.

Setup/Release: Efficient drop back from center and set up. Sells the play-action. Throws with good balance and steps into his passes. Compact windup and a quick release doesn't allow defenders much time to react. The ball comes out of his hand quickly and with good trajectory. Tight spirals that are easy for his receivers to track and catch.

Reading Defense: At least some of the improvement he showed as a senior came with limiting the number of reads he was asked to make. Has developed a great deal in terms of poise and reading defenses, but still locks on to his primary target early in the route. Rarely looks off the safety. Too often trusts his arm-strength and accuracy and throws the ball into coverage. Became more willing to throw the ball away as the year went on. Good poise in the pocket. Willing to step up in the pocket and take the hit to complete the throw.

On the Move: Among his most impressive traits. Good balance on the rollout. Keeps his eyes downfield and has the arm strength and accuracy to attack in the short and intermediate levels. Squares his shoulders and fires the ball with good trajectory and accuracy. Will occasionally throw back across his body, but has enough zip to fit balls in tight windows. Not a true threat as a scrambler, but can buy time and escape the pocket when necessary. Good size and strength for the quarterback sneak.

Intangibles (On/off field leadership, competitive fire, work habits, off-field issues, intelligence, ability to play through pain)

SkinsJock wrote:Just to make things interesting - the Redskins sign a big young QB


this is going to be fun

SkinsJock wrote:He was indeeed - AND .... he was signed on 01/03/12


I'm just having a little fun

GoSkins wrote:And no other NFL team took Crompton off our practice squad. Hmmm...

StorminMormon86 wrote:

GoSkins wrote:And no other NFL team took Crompton off our practice squad. Hmmm...

+1

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

GoSkins wrote:And no other NFL team took Crompton off our practice squad. Hmmm...

+1

So what... He's an unknown quantity. Nobody took snatched our RB's off the PS either, they've bee pretty effective.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote: +1

So what... He's an unknown quantity. Nobody took snatched our RB's off the PS either, they've bee pretty effective.

Running backs are a lot easier to come by than qbs.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote: So what... He's an unknown quantity. Nobody took snatched our RB's off the PS either, they've bee pretty effective.

Running backs are a lot easier to come by than qbs.

Regardless.

My point is that if people know that a good player is out there, they'll get them. These guys are unknown quantities. Just because he's on the PS or that nobody took him doesn't mean much at all. He might be a bum, he might not. If everyone knew he was great, he wouldn't be on the PS in the 1st place. Gotta see how he develops and thats why they signed him.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote: Running backs are a lot easier to come by than qbs.

Regardless.

My point is that if people know that a good player is out there, they'll get them. These guys are unknown quantities. Just because he's on the PS or that nobody took him doesn't mean much at all. He might be a bum, he might not. If everyone knew he was great, he wouldn't be on the PS in the 1st place. Gotta see how he develops and thats why they signed him.

How man qbs can you think of that have gone from practice squad to starter and been successful?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote: Regardless.

My point is that if people know that a good player is out there, they'll get them. These guys are unknown quantities. Just because he's on the PS or that nobody took him doesn't mean much at all. He might be a bum, he might not. If everyone knew he was great, he wouldn't be on the PS in the 1st place. Gotta see how he develops and thats why they signed him.

How man qbs can you think of that have gone from practice squad to starter and been successful?

Again, my point. I don't think it matters much that nobody cared about him, nobody cares about hardly any PS players. He's just here to be evaluated. He. Will. Be. Evaluated.

Evaluated be will he. Just in-case anyone is dyslexic.

CanesSkins26 wrote: They can evaluate him all they want, and maybe Shanahan can stake his reputation on Crompton too. But the fact remains that starting caliber qbs don't sit on practice squads in the NFL.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote: They can evaluate him all they want, and maybe Shanahan can stake his reputation on Crompton too. But the fact remains that starting caliber qbs don't sit on practice squads in the NFL.

Who called him a starting QB?

“Could be No. 3 quarterback for someone in league.” They don’t even specify the NFL. And they’re right to say it. The guy was a living, breathing interception for most of his college career. Awful decisions, awful accuracy, awful hair

CanesSkins26 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote: They can evaluate him all they want, and maybe Shanahan can stake his reputation on Crompton too. But the fact remains that starting caliber qbs don't sit on practice squads in the NFL.

Who called him a starting QB?

So they are going to evaluate the backup to be a....backup?

Earlier today (Old News), they released QB Jonathan Crompton, a former University of Tennessee star who signed with the Pats practice squad in November. His agent Joel Turner confirmed the news.

Crompton was a 2010 fifth round draft pick by the Chargers who has not taken an NFL snap. He’ll be subject to the NFL’s waiver wire, but because he was cut so late, he may not go on it until tomorrow. That means he could find a new home on Wednesday.

Crompton had been the No. 3 quarterback but third-rounder Ryan Mallett had already moved ahead of him, despite being in the early stages of learning the playbook.

Turner said Crompton was “appreciative of the valuable experience he received from the Patriots and was thrilled to be able to learn from Tom Brady. If the opportunity arises, maybe he’d be fortunate enough to be back.

New England PatriotsThe New England Patriots signed Crompton to their practice squad on November 2, 2010. On January 18, 2011, the Patriots re-signed Crompton to a future contract for the 2011 season. On August 1, he was waived.