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No, like when he took over from McNabb last year. Though he did pretty darn well today, too.StorminMormon86 wrote:Like he did against Miami?Irn-Bru wrote:He seems to play at his best when he's coming in for relief.
He did a damn good job today. I was shocked. Now if he could only repeat this performance against a team that isn't the last ranked defense I could see a case for keeping him next year.Irn-Bru wrote:No, like when he took over from McNabb last year. Though he did pretty darn well today, too.
Yes, Irvin played a big role in the 90's Cowboys team, but not as much as Aikman, Emmitt, two or three of the Cowboys OL, Moose, and maybe even Novachek.PAPDOG67 wrote:Your original comment was that WR don't have enough impact on the game. In that sense I would disagree with you and say that you were wrong. I didn't know we were analyzing SB teams. If you want to go that route, I think Michael Irvin (can't believe I had to bring up that idiot) was pretty damn important to the Cowgirls runs, Jerry Rice was a main contributor to the 49ers SBs, Santonio Holmes was pretty important to Pitt, and I've already given you Burress for the Giants. Oh, and Arizona doesn't sniff the SB without Fitzy. You want to tell me they all had good QBs, well of course they did....you usually don't win the SB without a pretty good QB, they go hand in hand......unless your name is Trent Dilfer.skinsfan#33 wrote:Look I'm not opposed to drafting a WR, just against a WR in the first round, let alone the top half of the draft where we will pick. Those selections should be reserved for players that could become major impact difference makers for a Superbowl run and WRs just can't ever become that.PAPDOG67 wrote: Wow, I don't even know where to start with this comment. No disrespect, but have you watched football in the last 20 years?? The game is becoming more and more pass happy, and a dominant WR can make even the mediocre QBs look good. Stafford and Schaub are good, but how many times a year do they just throw it up to Johnson & Johnson and have those guy make a play?? Rogers is unbelievable, but his WRs literally catch EVERYTHING thrown their way. Nelson, Jennings, and Driver are all awesome on getting their feet in on sideline thows and adjusting to back shoulder throws. Plaxico Buress single handedly beat GB in the championship in 2007. Ask anyone on that GB team and they'll tell you they had no answer for him. Hek the best example is to just look at Randy Moss' first few years....he helped Cunningham have a career year at the age of 35 and made Culpepper look like Marino. That being said, we need to draft a QB.
I'm glas you brought up Johnson and Johnson because if memory serves me right they have never even made the playoffs, let alone been a major contributor on a Superbowl team. I'll take a look at the 20 year periors you picked out and of the 74 first round WRs only a half a dozen have made significant impact for a team that drafted them during a Superbowl run and none were the reason that team won. Two of those six or seven players were Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne, who won one SB with one of if not the best QB of all time. During that span the Patriots won three SBs with almost nothing at WR. As a matter of fact since the last time the Pats won a SB they have had a better WR corp. Welker and Moss were an almost unstoppable combo, yet the Giants D, Eli, and David Tyrie (sp?) did just that.
None of the Packer WRs you mentioned are first round WRs!
The Lions have drafted 4 top ten WRs in the last ten years (three duds and a stud) yet they have yet to reach the playoffs. Until they added Their QB and their arm stomping DT they were door mats even with Megatron!
WRs are needed on a team, but they are not a bang for the buck type pick that should ever be taken high in a draft!
WE have to go QB (or LT then QB). This team is too bad to waste a high pick on flashy wheels when they have no chasis or driver to run a race!
Skinsfan33, I don't agree with you on your overall assessment of wide receivers, but looking where Atlanta is this year, I agree that they made a big mistake giving up all of those draft picks for Julio Jones. What makes me more angry about that trade is that Jones didn't fall to us so we could have made that deal with the Falcons.skinsfan#33 wrote:On a side note, the Julio Jones trade will go down as one of the worst trades in NFL history. If you look at how much they gave up, there is no way Jones, even if he becomes a perennial PB player, will ever live up to that trade. So the trade is a failure from the start. No WR is, has been, or will ever be worth two first, a second, and two forth round picks.
I agree. I would have loved to have fleece the Falcons even a fraction of what Cleveland got. But hey I'm happy with Kerrigan and Jenkkns and Hankerson. I know the jury is out on Hank time and JJ, but I'm still excited.Red_One43 wrote:Skinsfan33, I don't agree with you on your overall assessment of wide receivers, but looking where Atlanta is this year, I agree that they made a big mistake giving up all of those draft picks for Julio Jones. What makes me more angry about that trade is that Jones didn't fall to us so we could have made that deal with the Falcons.skinsfan#33 wrote:On a side note, the Julio Jones trade will go down as one of the worst trades in NFL history. If you look at how much they gave up, there is no way Jones, even if he becomes a perennial PB player, will ever live up to that trade. So the trade is a failure from the start. No WR is, has been, or will ever be worth two first, a second, and two forth round picks.