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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:21 am
by SkinsJock
EVERYONE would love to be in the playoffs - we might but ....
most of us are hoping that the product on the field will be in the playoffs consistently
we are not a very good team yet but we have improved a lot from 2009
we are getting there but we are CERTAINLY not there yet - that will take another draft & adding some more pieces
I'm loving the fact that the FO is really sticking to 'the plan' and not trying to just be good for the short term - these guys would love to win EVERY game but the reality is, this franchise is being assembled to be consistently good
we are making a lot of progress but we do not have the depth or, MOST IMPORTANTLY the QB .... yet
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:44 am
by Skinsfan55
I think we should look at the Tampa Bay situation to see a successful rebuild. They have a 23 y/o franchise QB and none of their starting offensive skill players are over 28 (Kellen Winslow Jr.) In fact, only two players on the team are over 29: their backup RB and Ronde Barber who has a shot at the HoF.
Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:00 am
by BigRedskinDaddy
oneman56 wrote:I'm in Littleton and it's definitely nice to see other Skins' fans out here.
Played my first year of organized ball in Littleton. Many, many, many, MANY years ago...Awesome OP btw. Nice to see some well thought out positives instead of the all too frequent gibberish. Well done sir.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:07 pm
by Skinsfan55
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/re ... story.html
Excellent work by Sally Jenkins. This column is about the culture change taking place in Washington and the discipline being shown by the team. Shanahan got rid of a former star QB and a guy who was once considered the best defensive lineman in the NFL, yet the Redskins are actually better this season than last.
McNabb and Haynesworth were both lazy and thought they were above the team. Now look at them. Shows Shanahan was right.
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:41 pm
by Countertrey
Skinsfan55 wrote:http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/washington-redskins-2011-no-more-false-hope/2011/09/21/gIQAtEW2lK_story.html
Excellent work by Sally Jenkins. This column is about the culture change taking place in Washington and the discipline being shown by the team. Shanahan got rid of a former star QB and a guy who was once considered the best defensive lineman in the NFL, yet the Redskins are actually better this season than last.
McNabb and Haynesworth were both lazy and thought they were above the team. Now look at them. Shows Shanahan was right.
Wow... I'll freely admit, I have had little respect for Sally Jenkins for several years... but that was a nice article. I can never recall being wrong... but perhaps this was one of those times that I was... less correct...
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:42 pm
by markshark84
At first I wasn't happy to hear one of our guys making a statemnt proclaiming that he was going to intentionally attempt to injury another player. BUT, I now believe the statement was made to get in the head of Romo -- which appears to have worked, especially since directly after the statement was made he ran out to get fitted for a vest which will most likely interfere with his throwing motion.
I was always curious as to why a cornerback would be the one to make such a statement and not one of our star LBs or a DL player -- which causes me to even more so believe that it was strategy; a strategy that appears to be working.
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:02 pm
by BigRedskinDaddy
Great article by Jenkins. Man oh man, we have needed somebody like Shanahan for a while now - even JG II was fraught with mistakes, inconsistency, and confusion. I don't sense any of that now. Still a long road to hoe, but we're on the way at last.
Re: Doing it Right!
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:46 pm
by PickSixerTWSS
Skinsfan55 wrote:Okay, so they're probably not going to the Superbowl. Rex Grossman isn't the best QB in the league, Fred Davis probably isn't the second coming of Kellen Winslow, these guys up front aren't the Hogs, our CB's aren't Hayes and Hanes... we don't have a lot of elite talent, but the Redskins are being built the right way!
The Redskins got rid of distractions and prima donas like Haynesworth and McNabb to change the culture of losing in Washington. They've brought in guys who are team oriented, who want to win. They also brought in high character guys through the draft who also fit the mold.
Kerrigan (23) has all the makings of a great linebacker and a compliment to Brian Orakpo. Trent Williams (23) has all the talent needed to become an elite LT. Fred Davis (25) appears to have all the talent to break out as a top 10 TE (at least!). LaRon Landry (26) hasn't seen the field yet due to injury, but there's another elite talent. We even have veteran role players like Chris
ey, London Fletcher, Tim Hightower, Josh Wilson, DeAngelo Hall, OJ Atogwe who get the job done. We even have some talented youngsters stashed away who looked like stars in camp such as Jarvis Jenkins, Leonard Hankerson and Roy Helu.
Bottom line is, we don't have a bad apple in this bunch. These guys all have one goal, and they feel like they could win every time they take the field. It's idiotic for a fan to think this is bad news or bemoan the early season wins as "costing" us Andrew Luck. This is how winning teams are built in the NFL. With a long term plan and patience.
Luck is a fine QB and I'm sure he'd be an asset to any franchise, but the team that tanks in search of the first pick is one that's going nowhere. FWIW I hope the Redskins do get a QB to build around. This QB class should be deep and you don't need to pick first to get someone. Josh Freeman is a fine young QB who got picked 17th overall (2009). There's other recent exampled like Joe Flacco (18th pick, 2008), Jay Cutler (11th pick, 2006), Aaron Rogers (24th pick, 2005), and Ben Roethlisberger (11th pick, 2004).
Given what I've seen so far in their rebuilding process I trust Shanny and Allen to make the right calls be it drafting a QB next season or passing on one in order to grab the right player for their system, as they did with Ryan Kerrigan when they passed on Gabbert.
This team is actually facing in the right direction for once. They're not pointed down, competing for the #1 overall pick. Thank God.
amazing post, great job!
Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:29 pm
by 44diesel
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