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langleyparkjoe wrote:Wait, I thought Arizona had Jake first and then Denver had him after? No?

TCIYM wrote: I don't know that anyone wanting ey moved could be considered a Redskins fan.

Jeremy81 wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Jeremy81 wrote:I don't think locker or mallet will be available by the time we pick. I wouldn't mind waiting on qb until the second round. Maybe a guy like Andy Dalton and picking up a stud OL in the first or maybe a julio Jones. I just think the top 4 qbs will be gone by the time we pick

There is very little chance we're going OL in the first round because we don't need an LT and anywhere else it's a stretch pick. The only way is if a very good RT is available, but that's in the long shot category. People like tossing out the go OL in the first round w/o analyzing what they are saying. A receiver is definitely possible though. I'm hoping we get a good 3-4 DL or LB. But drafting for position is a mistake we're not likely to make as Shanny is smart enough to avoid that trap, so it really depends who's there.

i'm not suggesting we take another LT with our pick. we're not going to have a top ten pick. picking a great G or C with a pick in the teens is not all that obsurd. Iupati and pouncey were both picked in the teens. it's doesn't neccessarily have to be a RT. stefen wisniewski or rodney hudson could both be worth a mid round pick. to assume people don't analyze what they say because they make suggestions you don't agree with is a bit off base. my whole point was that our first round pick doesn't have to be taken on a qb. there will be good qbs available in the second round

chiefhog44 wrote:Let's look at this.
Carolina - Picked Clausen last year
Denver - Has Orton AND Tebow
Buffalo - Luck doesn't drop any further from here.
Cincinnati - Palmer started playing very well once those bozo's we're out doubt they pick anyone up here.
Arizona - Would they trade down for McNabb??? Very interesting.
Cleveland - Mccoy
San Fran - Still have to think Smith is in there now that Singletary is out
Tenn - Owner wants Young
Dallas - Homo
Washington - Looking at a full deck of QB's at this position minue Luck. Could we trade up with Arizona for Mcnabb and #11, then up to 3 with Buffalo? Anybody know what the point's needed to trade from 5 to 3?

Red_One43 wrote:

chiefhog44 wrote:Let's look at this.
Carolina - Picked Clausen last year
Denver - Has Orton AND Tebow
Buffalo - Luck doesn't drop any further from here.
Cincinnati - Palmer started playing very well once those bozo's we're out doubt they pick anyone up here.
Arizona - Would they trade down for McNabb??? Very interesting.
Cleveland - Mccoy
San Fran - Still have to think Smith is in there now that Singletary is out
Tenn - Owner wants Young
Dallas - Homo
Washington - Looking at a full deck of QB's at this position minue Luck. Could we trade up with Arizona for Mcnabb and #11, then up to 3 with Buffalo? Anybody know what the point's needed to trade from 5 to 3?

If the Cards think that Skelton is the QB of their future then it is plausible that the Cards could trade down in a trade that would include McNabb with McNabb holding the reins for Skelton, but I have no idea hwo they felt about Skelton's evaluation; however from what you posted it seems very likely that the QB Shanny wants might be available.

GoSkins wrote:There are rumors that Arizona is interested in McNabb. With the Redskins picking 10th it does make sense to trade McNabb and move up to Arizona's spot which is #5. So which QB does Shanny want? Well, he has to be smart, accurate and mobile. That means Mallett and Newton are probably out. Can Shanny still move up to 1 and get Luck? That would be the coups of the century. I also think we will trade Haynesworth and hopefully get a 3rd.

chiefhog44 wrote:I am ALL for mortgaging the furture for Luck RIGHT NOW. Sell the farm, give Arizona Mcnabb and #10 for their pick at 5. Then give Carolina whatever they want for Luck... Haynesworth, Carter, ey and a couple other draft picks. What are the points needed for trading draft picks to move from 5 to 1? We can get the rest of our needs in a HUGE free agency pool this year. sorry but this guy could be the answer. Ahhh I said could be, but what are we really trading away? A bunch of guys who don't fit our scheme and lower percentage could be's. I'll roll the dice bia$ch

KazooSkinsFan wrote:Man, we have so many needs to give away everything we have left to get one guy doesn't seem like a good idea to me. And college QB's are so hard to predict. If he ends up being an Alex Smith or a Heath Schuler we're totally screwed. And if he's Peyton Manning he doesn't have a team.

@RossTuckerNFL: I spoke with well-placed NFL source who is higher on Ryan Mallett than Andrew Luck. Said Luck has "very average" NFL arm.

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

chiefhog44 wrote:I am ALL for mortgaging the furture for Luck RIGHT NOW. Sell the farm, give Arizona Mcnabb and #10 for their pick at 5. Then give Carolina whatever they want for Luck... Haynesworth, Carter, ey and a couple other draft picks. What are the points needed for trading draft picks to move from 5 to 1? We can get the rest of our needs in a HUGE free agency pool this year. sorry but this guy could be the answer. Ahhh I said could be, but what are we really trading away? A bunch of guys who don't fit our scheme and lower percentage could be's. I'll roll the dice bia$ch

Man, we have so many needs to give away everything we have left to get one guy doesn't seem like a good idea to me. And college QB's are so hard to predict. If he ends up being an Alex Smith or a Heath Schuler we're totally screwed. And if he's Peyton Manning he doesn't have a team.

chiefhog44 wrote:

GoSkins wrote:There are rumors that Arizona is interested in McNabb. With the Redskins picking 10th it does make sense to trade McNabb and move up to Arizona's spot which is #5. So which QB does Shanny want? Well, he has to be smart, accurate and mobile. That means Mallett and Newton are probably out. Can Shanny still move up to 1 and get Luck? That would be the coups of the century. I also think we will trade Haynesworth and hopefully get a 3rd.

I am ALL for mortgaging the furture for Luck RIGHT NOW. Sell the farm, give Arizona Mcnabb and #10 for their pick at 5. Then give Carolina whatever they want for Luck... Haynesworth, Carter, ey and a couple other draft picks. What are the points needed for trading draft picks to move from 5 to 1? We can get the rest of our needs in a HUGE free agency pool this year. sorry but this guy could be the answer. Ahhh I said could be, but what are we really trading away? A bunch of guys who don't fit our scheme and lower percentage could be's. I'll roll the dice bia$ch

Skinsfan55 wrote:The word was that before he decided to stay for his senior season Shanahan was very impressed with Jake Locker. I still think he's the guy we're looking at next season. Why wouldn't Carolina take Andrew Luck anyway? They have a good line, a decent running game... it's a good situation for a young QB.

frankcal20 wrote:Clausen has proven that he's not that good of a QB. If Carolina has the 1st pick, they're going to trade out or pick Luck.

1st off - the city will 100% revolt if they don't.
#2 - with a new coach, he's going to want a starting calaber QB starting and Clausen isn't it.

Red_One43 wrote:BUT, since he is ranked at least the 3rd best QB, do you think that he will be around by the time we pick?

DarthMonk wrote:BUT, since he is ranked at least the 3rd best QB, do you think that he will be around by the time we pick?

DarthMonk wrote:Would love to get Marcell Dareus but he'll probably be gone.

How about Cameron Jordan fromm California? Ideally we could trade our 1 for a later 1 and something else and get this guy (or someone like him, i.e., a starter at a position of need) if someone wants our 1.