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Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:19 am**

I think that with McNabb's benching it's pretty clear that we are going to draft a qb in the first round. The top of the draft is pretty stacked this year with Luck, Mallett, and Locker.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:26 am**

Russellmania09

Asked another source close to the situation if they expected McNabb to still be with the #Redskins next year, a simple "Hell No" was answer.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:27 am**

granthpaulsen

Fletcher Smith (McNabb's agent), over the phone: "He's not happy. He feels he should be out there."

granthpaulsen

Fletcher Smith: "The timing of it doesn't matter at all. I don't know how many quarterbacks of Donovan's caliber this has happened to."

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:31 am**

Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:Another tasty morsel. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdo ... nfl-297400

And it goes on and on....This will be another off season filled with plenty of tidbits.

That wasn't tasty it was stale... everyone with any insight has known for a month that it wasn't a $40 million contract. Bad info in the 1st sentence does not make a tasty morsel, it makes you move on to something else

Redskins players are not happy. "The guys are extremely pissed," one player told NFL.com's Jason La Canfora. He reports that Redskins players think offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat for his own failures

ok, now I am putting it in better light I hope. This is what I was talking about.

One player told JLC that the guys are pissed :shock:

then he reports that players think Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat.

Was the player that told him this one of the pissed players or one of the players that thinks DMc is a scapegoat? Why not name names, if he actually talked to someone? We saw through all of his "a person with knowledge of the situation" BS so now he is going with player and players.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:34 am**

CanesSkins26 wrote:
granthpaulsen

Fletcher Smith (McNabb's agent), over the phone: "He's not happy. He feels he should be out there."

granthpaulsen

Fletcher Smith: "The timing of it doesn't matter at all. I don't know how many quarterbacks of Donovan's caliber this has happened to."

Caliber? He is and always was over rated. He can make big plays. Ask him to be consistent. Canes you know. I know you know. You are big on stats and yes MacNab can make the plays but he was hated for a reason and now we all can see why. I understand that he doesn't have the blocking but he did as an Eagle more so than a Redskin. AM I right thinking this?

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:39 am**

Kilmer72 wrote:Caliber? He is and always was over rated. He can make big plays. Ask him to be consistent. Canes you know. I know you know. You are big on stats and yes MacNab can make the plays but he was hated for a reason and now we all can see why. I understand that he doesn't have the blocking but he did as an Eagle more so than a Redskin. AM I right thinking this?

Whatever McNabb is or isn't we bought and paid for him. It isn't his fault he isn't something other than what he always has been. It's Shanahan and Son who just had to have McNabb, cost prohibition be damned.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:39 am**

Kilmer72 wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
granthpaulsen

Fletcher Smith (McNabb's agent), over the phone: "He's not happy. He feels he should be out there."

granthpaulsen

Fletcher Smith: "The timing of it doesn't matter at all. I don't know how many quarterbacks of Donovan's caliber this has happened to."

Caliber? He is and always was over rated. He can make big plays. Ask him to be consistent. Canes you know. I know you know. You are big on stats and yes MacNab can make the plays but he was hated for a reason and now we all can see why. I understand that he doesn't have the blocking but he did as an Eagle more so than a Redskin. AM I right thinking this?

What else is his agent going to say,

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:40 am**

1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:Another tasty morsel. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdo ... nfl-297400

And it goes on and on....This will be another off season filled with plenty of tidbits.

That wasn't tasty it was stale... everyone with any insight has known for a month that it wasn't a $40 million contract. Bad info in the 1st sentence does not make a tasty morsel, it makes you move on to something else

Redskins players are not happy. "The guys are extremely pissed," one player told NFL.com's Jason La Canfora. He reports that Redskins players think offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat for his own failures

ok, now I am putting it in better light I hope. This is what I was talking about.

One player told JLC that the guys are pissed then he reports that players think Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat.

Was the player that told him this one of the pissed players or one of the players that thinks DMc is a scapegoat? Why not name names, if he actually talked to someone? We saw through all of his "a person with knowledge of the situation" BS so now he is going with player and players.

You are probably right. Maybe not though. What really goes on in the locker room that isn't reported accurately? I understand that Jason has alot of this guy says this and that and it is anonymous. What would you think though if you were on that team? What would you say to the media and what would you really be thinking? I am saying I believe this. This is natural.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:42 am**

Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:Another tasty morsel. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdo ... nfl-297400

And it goes on and on....This will be another off season filled with plenty of tidbits.

That wasn't tasty it was stale... everyone with any insight has known for a month that it wasn't a $40 million contract. Bad info in the 1st sentence does not make a tasty morsel, it makes you move on to something else

Redskins players are not happy. "The guys are extremely pissed," one player told NFL.com's Jason La Canfora. He reports that Redskins players think offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat for his own failures

ok, now I am putting it in better light I hope. This is what I was talking about.

One player told JLC that the guys are pissed then he reports that players think Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat.

Was the player that told him this one of the pissed players or one of the players that thinks DMc is a scapegoat? Why not name names, if he actually talked to someone? We saw through all of his "a person with knowledge of the situation" BS so now he is going with player and players.

You are probably right. Maybe not though. What really goes on in the locker room that isn't reported accurately? I understand that Jason has alot of this guy says this and that and it is anonymous. What would you think though if you were on that team? What would you say to the media and what would you really be thinking? I am saying I believe this. This is natural.

Before you answer...If you are going to name names then how long do you expect to have a job?

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:44 am**

Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:Another tasty morsel. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdo ... nfl-297400

And it goes on and on....This will be another off season filled with plenty of tidbits.

That wasn't tasty it was stale... everyone with any insight has known for a month that it wasn't a $40 million contract. Bad info in the 1st sentence does not make a tasty morsel, it makes you move on to something else

Redskins players are not happy. "The guys are extremely pissed," one player told NFL.com's Jason La Canfora. He reports that Redskins players think offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat for his own failures

ok, now I am putting it in better light I hope. This is what I was talking about.

One player told JLC that the guys are pissed then he reports that players think Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat.

Was the player that told him this one of the pissed players or one of the players that thinks DMc is a scapegoat? Why not name names, if he actually talked to someone? We saw through all of his "a person with knowledge of the situation" BS so now he is going with player and players.

You are probably right. Maybe not though. What really goes on in the locker room that isn't reported accurately? I understand that Jason has alot of this guy says this and that and it is anonymous. What would you think though if you were on that team? What would you say to the media and what would you really be thinking? I am saying I believe this. This is natural.

For the most part players had no comment when the news broke, and JLC is mostly wrong when he doesn't name a source

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:47 am**

1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:Another tasty morsel. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdo ... nfl-297400

And it goes on and on....This will be another off season filled with plenty of tidbits.

That wasn't tasty it was stale... everyone with any insight has known for a month that it wasn't a $40 million contract. Bad info in the 1st sentence does not make a tasty morsel, it makes you move on to something else

Redskins players are not happy. "The guys are extremely pissed," one player told NFL.com's Jason La Canfora. He reports that Redskins players think offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat for his own failures

ok, now I am putting it in better light I hope. This is what I was talking about.

One player told JLC that the guys are pissed then he reports that players think Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat.

Was the player that told him this one of the pissed players or one of the players that thinks DMc is a scapegoat? Why not name names, if he actually talked to someone? We saw through all of his "a person with knowledge of the situation" BS so now he is going with player and players.

You are probably right. Maybe not though. What really goes on in the locker room that isn't reported accurately? I understand that Jason has alot of this guy says this and that and it is anonymous. What would you think though if you were on that team? What would you say to the media and what would you really be thinking? I am saying I believe this. This is natural.

For the most part players had no comment when the news broke, and JLC is mostly wrong when he doesn't name a source

And I don't blame them for having no comment. I wouldn't either if I wanted my job.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:58 am**

Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
For the most part players had no comment when the news broke, and JLC is mostly wrong when he doesn't name a source

And I don't blame them for having no comment. I wouldn't either if I wanted my job.

But JLC wants us to believe that after telling the locals nothing they opened up to him and told him how they feel and what they are thinking

Maybe he talked to Fat Albert... Oh Yeah he was banded

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:35 am**

Things to keep in mind:

What if there is no Collective Bargaining Agreement and a protracted lock-out? The QB Question will be a moot point for "Next Year". Should the Redskins keep McNabb around when he will be getting older, and the team won't even play?

What happens to all the Draft picks if there is no season next year? They won't practice and they won't play. That leaves with starting over in 2012.

I wonder how much of this is a direct result of the CBA and if there is going to be an 18 games season, McNabb won't make it through the season, they need options as will all teams.

Finally, I think McNabb might want to play in Arizona or for the Vikings. If they can get a draft pick for him and there is no season, the Redskins will be better off.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:39 am**

I'm not sure if i am more disappointed in this latest Redskins drama with benching Mcnabb or the unimaginable disappointment when I found out today that Tootsie Pop has a banana flavor...

They have to know that Cherry is the best flavor, banana has no place with candy.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:08 am**

ATX_Skins wrote:I'm not sure if i am more disappointed in this latest Redskins drama with benching Mcnabb or the unimaginable disappointment when I found out today that Tootsie Pop has a banana flavor...

They have to know that Cherry is the best flavor, banana has no place with candy.

Dude... you know how to put things in perspective! hahaha

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:44 am**

Who will be looking for a franchise QB in next year's Draft?

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:59 am**

I know QB's are a crapshoot, and this would be the 3rd time we'd be taking a QB in 9 years, but I feel good about Shanahan's ability to pick a QB. He turned Brian Griese into a Pro-Bowler.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:12 am**

I mean, it's about time we take back what is rightfully ours. 2011 Offseason Champions!!

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:12 am**

ATX_Skins wrote:I'm not sure if i am more disappointed in this latest Redskins drama with benching Mcnabb or the unimaginable disappointment when I found out today that Tootsie Pop has a banana flavor...

They have to know that Cherry is the best flavor, banana has no place with candy.

They have a cherry too. Most candy cherry flavors are too medicinal, though.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:19 am**

1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:Another tasty morsel. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdo ... nfl-297400

And it goes on and on....This will be another off season filled with plenty of tidbits.

That wasn't tasty it was stale... everyone with any insight has known for a month that it wasn't a $40 million contract. Bad info in the 1st sentence does not make a tasty morsel, it makes you move on to something else

Redskins players are not happy. "The guys are extremely pissed," one player told NFL.com's Jason La Canfora. He reports that Redskins players think offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat for his own failures

ok, now I am putting it in better light I hope. This is what I was talking about.

One player told JLC that the guys are pissed then he reports that players think Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat.

Was the player that told him this one of the pissed players or one of the players that thinks DMc is a scapegoat? Why not name names, if he actually talked to someone? We saw through all of his "a person with knowledge of the situation" BS so now he is going with player and players.

You are probably right. Maybe not though. What really goes on in the locker room that isn't reported accurately? I understand that Jason has alot of this guy says this and that and it is anonymous. What would you think though if you were on that team? What would you say to the media and what would you really be thinking? I am saying I believe this. This is natural.

For the most part players had no comment when the news broke, and JLC is mostly wrong when he doesn't name a source

Which is precisely why almost no one on THN considered him a reliable source when he was with the Post. A cat can't change his spots. I believed that JLC was a knee jerk opportunist in Washington... and (apparently), is now a knee jerk opportunist at NFLN. The guy has a history of preferring splash over credibility... if he wanted to change that, he'd find a way to validate the rumors that he mongers as fact.

Could he be right? sure. Do I believe a word that comes out of his mouth at face value???? NOT A CHANCE. I believe nothing that comes from him that is not sourced.

Keep in mind, I'm not at all happy with Shanahan's incomprehensible behavior... but that doesn't mean that I'm going to use anything from a source that I don't consider trustworthy as validation for my feelings.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:24 am**

Countertrey wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:
1niksder wrote:
Kilmer72 wrote:Another tasty morsel. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdo ... nfl-297400

And it goes on and on....This will be another off season filled with plenty of tidbits.

That wasn't tasty it was stale... everyone with any insight has known for a month that it wasn't a $40 million contract. Bad info in the 1st sentence does not make a tasty morsel, it makes you move on to something else

Redskins players are not happy. "The guys are extremely pissed," one player told NFL.com's Jason La Canfora. He reports that Redskins players think offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat for his own failures

ok, now I am putting it in better light I hope. This is what I was talking about.

One player told JLC that the guys are pissed then he reports that players think Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat.

Was the player that told him this one of the pissed players or one of the players that thinks DMc is a scapegoat? Why not name names, if he actually talked to someone? We saw through all of his "a person with knowledge of the situation" BS so now he is going with player and players.

You are probably right. Maybe not though. What really goes on in the locker room that isn't reported accurately? I understand that Jason has alot of this guy says this and that and it is anonymous. What would you think though if you were on that team? What would you say to the media and what would you really be thinking? I am saying I believe this. This is natural.

For the most part players had no comment when the news broke, and JLC is mostly wrong when he doesn't name a source

Which is precisely why almost no one on THN considered him a reliable source when he was with the Post. A cat can't change his spots. I believed that JLC was a knee jerk opportunist in Washington... and (apparently), is now a knee jerk opportunist at NFLN. The guy has a history of preferring splash over credibility... if he wanted to change that, he'd find a way to validate the rumors that he mongers as fact.

Could he be right? sure. Do I believe a word that comes out of his mouth at face value???? NOT A CHANCE. I believe nothing that comes from him that is not sourced.

Keep in mind, I'm not at all happy with Shanahan's incomprehensible behavior... but that doesn't mean that I'm going to use anything from a source that I don't consider trustworthy as validation for my feelings.

^+1

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:52 am**

Kilmer72 wrote:What would you think though if you were on that team?

I'm a staunch McNabb supporter. However, how can anyone be naive enough to think that our O doesn't have serious problems and we have to look at and try everything and we need to figure out who should be here next year? I would stay with McNabb personally, but how could anyone inside or outside the locker room not get it?

You seriously think anyone in the locker room is thinking "I don't get this, our offense is horrible, but I'm going to be pissed and tank if anyone makes a change that I personally don't think is the problem!" Yeah, they're thinking that. If you're on D, you're thinking thank God they are trying to get us some points so it's not on us every freaking game and if you're on O you're concerned with your own survival next year.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:00 pm**

Deadskins wrote:
ATX_Skins wrote:I'm not sure if i am more disappointed in this latest Redskins drama with benching Mcnabb or the unimaginable disappointment when I found out today that Tootsie Pop has a banana flavor...

They have to know that Cherry is the best flavor, banana has no place with candy.

They have a cherry too. Most candy cherry flavors are too medicinal, though.

Cherry Tootsie Pops though are tough to top.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:34 pm**

I prefer raspberry.

Posted: **Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:52 pm**

Any flavor has to be better than the Bile Pops we've been force fed since May of 1999.

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