ATX_Skins wrote:Who asked these questions in San Fran? Or are you quoting media speculation? Who said he was a cancer and classless in Dallas? Or are we again speculating? Look, it's about the numbers pure and simple. Like him or hate him he produces everywhere he goes.
How old are you? Anyone who was following football then knows what Deadskins said. He left SF because of his attitude and everyone did ask how long Philly would last and if he'd learn with a fresh start. He didn't, he got worse. And in Dallas his performance versus his personality were always the debate as to how long they'd tolerate it. They did until they'd had enough and got rid of him. It's not up for debate, it's the way it was.
Hail to the Redskins!
Groucho: Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him
Twain: A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
ATX_Skins wrote:Who asked these questions in San Fran? Or are you quoting media speculation? Who said he was a cancer and classless in Dallas? Or are we again speculating? Look, it's about the numbers pure and simple. Like him or hate him he produces everywhere he goes.
How old are you? Anyone who was following football then knows what Deadskins said. He left SF because of his attitude and everyone did ask how long Philly would last and if he'd learn with a fresh start. He didn't, he got worse. And in Dallas his performance versus his personality were always the debate as to how long they'd tolerate it. They did until they'd had enough and got rid of him. It's not up for debate, it's the way it was.
Im 29, I'm guessing because you asked me that you are over 40. What exactly does my age have to do with anything anyways? I am old enough to know that T.O. not only went to the playoffs but performed in San Fran. I also remember a guy named T.O. playing his ass off in Philly in the super bowl.
I don't know how many ways I can explain this to you guys. I do not care about his attitude, yes he is a drama queen, however he performs. This team needs football players not receivers with class that let balls go right through their hands into the D's breadbasket... Obviously T.O. is not a long term realistic option, but I get extremely frustrated when Skins fans think that having a full team of professional class act players is possible.
ATX_Skins wrote:I don't know how many ways I can explain this to you guys. I do not care about his attitude, yes he is a drama queen, however he performs. This team needs football players not receivers with class that let balls go right through their hands into the D's breadbasket... Obviously T.O. is not a long term realistic option, but I get extremely frustrated when Skins fans think that having a full team of professional class act players is possible.
This doesn't address the conversation. Deadskins said he'd worn out his welcome in SF and then in Philly, you asked him how he knew that. That's the question I addressed and said if you're old enough to remember and followed football then you know that, it's fact. Now you're switching the conversation to whether you care or not about his attitude. I never argued you care, it's irrelevant to the discussion. What Deadskins told you is dead on true. Period.
Hail to the Redskins!
Groucho: Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him
Twain: A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
ATX_Skins wrote:I don't know how many ways I can explain this to you guys. I do not care about his attitude, yes he is a drama queen, however he performs. This team needs football players not receivers with class that let balls go right through their hands into the D's breadbasket... Obviously T.O. is not a long term realistic option, but I get extremely frustrated when Skins fans think that having a full team of professional class act players is possible.
This doesn't address the conversation. Deadskins said he'd worn out his welcome in SF and then in Philly, you asked him how he knew that. That's the question I addressed and said if you're old enough to remember and followed football then you know that, it's fact. Now you're switching the conversation to whether you care or not about his attitude. I never argued you care, it's irrelevant to the discussion. What Deadskins told you is dead on true. Period.
Ok, then if we want to get more to the point Deadskins said that he was a "cancer". Not that he was traded because of his attitude or that he had worn out his welcome. Then Deadskins went on to say that there were questions of how long he would last in Philly, to that the answer was pretty clear THE SUPER BOWL. From the way I see it San Fran has pretty much sucked since he left, Philly hasn't been to the big game since. so who was the cancer? The guy speaks his mind a little more than he should yes, but he is hardly a cancer.
The players you guys call "cancers" have skills, they are good. If they sucked they wouldn't even be relevant because they wouldn't be playing anywhere regardless. In order to be a cancer you have to be a pretty damn good football player.
ATX_Skins wrote:Ok, then if we want to get more to the point Deadskins said that he was a "cancer". Not that he was traded because of his attitude or that he had worn out his welcome. Then Deadskins went on to say that there were questions of how long he would last in Philly, to that the answer was pretty clear THE SUPER BOWL. From the way I see it San Fran has pretty much sucked since he left, Philly hasn't been to the big game since. so who was the cancer? The guy speaks his mind a little more than he should yes, but he is hardly a cancer.
The players you guys call "cancers" have skills, they are good. If they sucked they wouldn't even be relevant because they wouldn't be playing anywhere regardless. In order to be a cancer you have to be a pretty damn good football player.
Fair enough. I personally didn't use the term cancer and avoid using it because I think it's way over used. I've been adamantly anti-AH for example, but have not called him a cancer and don't think he's one. A cancer isn't the person it's the affect they have on the team. AH is a self centered, childish greedy jerk, but he's not a cancer that I see because everyone on the team knows what he is and tolerates it.
That said, TO is a cancer, he publicly attacks his teammates. And as we know now he doesn't give it up when they are no longer teammates, he still spits his venom. There is no way teammates can be effective together when their teammate is trashing them to the media. It's impossible. AH is just unconcerned with anyone but himself. TO is malicious. AH doesn't get why anyone would have an issue because he doesn't care and therefore doesn't think about it. TO follows up his spite with more spite. AH doesn't attack others, TO doesn't stop.
Hail to the Redskins!
Groucho: Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him
Twain: A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way
I'm pretty sure that the only time TO got to the playoffs was with Donovan. It isn't the other way around. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. He's a loser. Check his teams' records.
ATX_Skins wrote:Ok, then if we want to get more to the point Deadskins said that he was a "cancer". Not that he was traded because of his attitude or that he had worn out his welcome. Then Deadskins went on to say that there were questions of how long he would last in Philly, to that the answer was pretty clear THE SUPER BOWL. From the way I see it San Fran has pretty much sucked since he left, Philly hasn't been to the big game since. so who was the cancer? The guy speaks his mind a little more than he should yes, but he is hardly a cancer.
The players you guys call "cancers" have skills, they are good. If they sucked they wouldn't even be relevant because they wouldn't be playing anywhere regardless. In order to be a cancer you have to be a pretty damn good football player.
Fair enough. I personally didn't use the term cancer and avoid using it because I think it's way over used. I've been adamantly anti-AH for example, but have not called him a cancer and don't think he's one. A cancer isn't the person it's the affect they have on the team. AH is a self centered, childish greedy jerk, but he's not a cancer that I see because everyone on the team knows what he is and tolerates it.
That said, TO is a cancer, he publicly attacks his teammates. And as we know now he doesn't give it up when they are no longer teammates, he still spits his venom. There is no way teammates can be effective together when their teammate is trashing them to the media. It's impossible. AH is just unconcerned with anyone but himself. TO is malicious. AH doesn't get why anyone would have an issue because he doesn't care and therefore doesn't think about it. TO follows up his spite with more spite. AH doesn't attack others, TO doesn't stop.
Ok, I can agree with you that T.O. is a cancer. Although I am not concerned with a players comments as long as they put up numbers I can side with those of you who see it as a potential disaster.
AH is treading on cancerous. When he laid there on the ground he no longer was only effecting the team from his bad attitude, it has now spilled onto the field.
orangenorth wrote:I'm pretty sure that the only time TO got to the playoffs was with Donovan. It isn't the other way around. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. He's a loser. Check his teams' records.
I am pretty sure you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
I was way off, although it appears his teams have had 1 win since 1999 in the playoffs. I didn't realize he was in 11 games. Must have been distracted by all of his hoopla.
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TOE? Who??? Sure, I wish the Redskins had had Lou "The Toe" Groza, but he played a long long time ago. There was a recent player, Terrell somebody, but he was most memorable because people started saying, "Sure, if Terrell Owens was just a real football player, he'd be a lot like Art Monk". Maybe that helped 81 get voted into the HoF?
I would rather have a Twitter posting legit threat at WR than a butterfingered over the hill class act.
Get serious and wake up it's 2010.
First of all, it is simply not true that "all he does is put up numbers." He certainly puts up numbers but that's not all he does. He quits at important moments. He trashes teammates publically. He has a litany of classless transgressions that I need not give links to. We all know of them and admit them unless we are in denial.
Second of all, I too would rather have a "Twitter posting legit threat at WR than a butterfingered over the hill class act." If that were all there was to it I'd be all over it. But he is much more than a Twitter posting legit threat. See above and any complete history of his antics.
Finally, the fact that it is 2010 makes it even more important to have class. 50 years ago an Owens could have said this about a former teammate and almost nobody would've known. In 2010 all comments are instantly public and have much greater effect whether positive or negative.
You can certainly weigh TO's numbers against his negatives and say the numbers trump and others can go the other way but to say he has no negatives or that they don't matter at all is extreme and I dare say flat out wrong.
Recognizing the FACT that TO has put up huge numbers I add the following for anyone interested. I'd forgotten some of this:
Coach Steve Mariucci was fired and former Seahawks coach Dennis Erickson took over. The ensuing season in 2003 proved subpar as the Niners finished 7-9. It was here that Owens decided to leave. Immediately after breaking off all ties to the team, Owens appeared in an interview for Playboy magazine, where he created controversy after insinuating that Garcia was homosexual.[9]
Although Owens was eager to leave the 49ers, the 49ers asserted that Owens's previous agent, David Joseph, had missed the deadline to void the final years of his contract with the team. The NFLPA and Owens disputed this assertion, contending that the deadline referred to by the 49ers was not the applicable deadline. On March 4, 2004, San Francisco, believing it still held Owens's rights, attempted to trade Owens to the Baltimore Ravens for a second round pick in the 2004 draft. However, Owens challenged the 49ers' right to make the deal. Owens assumed that he would become a free agent on March 3, and did not believe that the earlier deadline was applicable. Hence, he negotiated with other teams in advance of his expected free agency, and reached a contract agreement with the Philadelphia Eagles, whose fan base strongly supported Owens in his desire to play for the team. The NFLPA filed a grievance on his behalf.
Before an arbitrator could make a ruling on Owens's grievance, the NFL and the three teams involved in the controversy reached a settlement on March 16, 2004. The Ravens got their second-round pick back from San Francisco, and the 49ers in turn received a conditional fifth-round pick and defensive end Brandon Whiting from the Eagles in exchange for the rights to Owens. Owens's contract with the Eagles was reported to be worth $49 million for seven years, including a $10 million signing bonus.
On April 2005, Owens announced that he had hired a new agent, Drew Rosenhaus, and indicated that he would seek to have his contract with the Eagles renegotiated. Owens made $9 million in 2004 (most of which being bonus money as his base salary was only $660,000),[10] and was slated to make $4.5 million in 2005. This two year amount did not place Owens in the top 10 paid wide receivers playing. He also made a comment to the effect that he "wasn't the guy who got tired in the Super Bowl"; the remark, thought by most to be directed at quarterback Donovan McNabb, caused a controversy between them to heat up. Owens has always claimed the remark was not directed towards McNabb, but in regard to his obsessive diet and workout programs. On July 1, Owens's relationship with the Eagles became even more tense after Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie and club president Joe Banner denied Owens permission to play basketball in a summer league under the auspices of the NBA's Sacramento Kings.[11]
Owens's contract controversy heated up as training camp drew nearer. Owens, with the negotiating help of Rosenhaus, continued to lobby for a new contract. Owens and Rosenhaus met with Eagles head coach Andy Reid and president Joe Banner, but no agreement was reached (this was in line with the Eagles' policy against contract renegotiations). Owens threatened to hold out of training camp until a deal was reached, but reported to camp on time. When the 2005 football season began, Owens was in the second year of a seven-year, $49 million contract. However, the contract was heavily back-loaded, and while the $49 million figure was routinely touted by the sports media as an example of Owens's greed, the money guaranteed to him was under the annual average for a top-tier wide receiver. During this time Terrell gained his record.
During the season, Owens continued to voice his displeasure. After more remarks about Eagles management and Donovan McNabb, Owens was suspended four games without pay and then deactivated for the rest of the season. (See Controversy Section.) The next season, Owens was released by the Philadelphia Eagles franchise and eventually signed with the Dallas Cowboys.
Owens' relationship with QB Tony Romo was reported to fall apart during the 2008 season. Owens was frustrated with the lack of balls thrown his way and was jealous of the relationship Romo had with Pro Bowl Tight End Jason Witten. After his release from the Cowboys Owens publicly blamed Romo and Offensive Coordinator Jason Garrett for his release. Some unnamed Cowboys players say Terrell was released for a conflict with Tony Romo after the last game of the season in which he "slapped" Tony Romo.
The Cowboys released Owens on March 4, 2009.[18] Owens later said that Jerry Jones had assured him that he would be remaining with the team and that he was blindsided by his release.
NFL records
Currently, the only player in NFL history to score a receiving TD against all 32 NFL teams Currently, the only player in NFL history to score 2 TDs against 31 NFL teams (all except Buffalo Bills) Oldest player to have a TD reception of 98+ yards (35 years, 350 days) Oldest player to have a TD reception of 78+ yards (36 years, 300 days) Oldest player to have a 200 yard receiving game (36 years, 300 days) Consecutive Seasons with at least 6 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945 Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdown receptions, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945 Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945 Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 500 receiving yards, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 750 receiving yards, 1997-2010 (14) Consecutive seasons with at least 40 receptions, 1997-2010 (14) One of six players to have at least 2 receptions of 90+ yards (John Taylor, Mike Quick, Gaynell Tinsley, Steve Watson, and Willard Dewveall)
DarthMonk
Hog Bowl III, V, X Champion (2011, 2013, 2018)
Hognostication Champion (2011, 2013, 2016)
Hognostibowl XII Champion (2017, 2018)
Scalp 'em, Swamp 'em, We will take 'em big score! Read 'em, Weep 'em Touchdown, We want heap more!
I would rather have a Twitter posting legit threat at WR than a butterfingered over the hill class act.
Get serious and wake up it's 2010.
First of all, it is simply not true that "all he does is put up numbers." He certainly puts up numbers but that's not all he does. He quits at important moments. He trashes teammates publically. He has a litany of classless transgressions that I need not give links to. We all know of them and admit them unless we are in denial.
Second of all, I too would rather have a "Twitter posting legit threat at WR than a butterfingered over the hill class act." If that were all there was to it I'd be all over it. But he is much more than a Twitter posting legit threat. See above and any complete history of his antics.
Finally, the fact that it is 2010 makes it even more important to have class. 50 years ago an Owens could have said this about a former teammate and almost nobody would've known. In 2010 all comments are instantly public and have much greater effect whether positive or negative.
You can certainly weigh TO's numbers against his negatives and say the numbers trump and others can go the other way but to say he has no negatives or that they don't matter at all is extreme and I dare say flat out wrong.
Recognizing the FACT that TO has put up huge numbers I add the following for anyone interested. I'd forgotten some of this:
Coach Steve Mariucci was fired and former Seahawks coach Dennis Erickson took over. The ensuing season in 2003 proved subpar as the Niners finished 7-9. It was here that Owens decided to leave. Immediately after breaking off all ties to the team, Owens appeared in an interview for Playboy magazine, where he created controversy after insinuating that Garcia was homosexual.[9]
Although Owens was eager to leave the 49ers, the 49ers asserted that Owens's previous agent, David Joseph, had missed the deadline to void the final years of his contract with the team. The NFLPA and Owens disputed this assertion, contending that the deadline referred to by the 49ers was not the applicable deadline. On March 4, 2004, San Francisco, believing it still held Owens's rights, attempted to trade Owens to the Baltimore Ravens for a second round pick in the 2004 draft. However, Owens challenged the 49ers' right to make the deal. Owens assumed that he would become a free agent on March 3, and did not believe that the earlier deadline was applicable. Hence, he negotiated with other teams in advance of his expected free agency, and reached a contract agreement with the Philadelphia Eagles, whose fan base strongly supported Owens in his desire to play for the team. The NFLPA filed a grievance on his behalf.
Before an arbitrator could make a ruling on Owens's grievance, the NFL and the three teams involved in the controversy reached a settlement on March 16, 2004. The Ravens got their second-round pick back from San Francisco, and the 49ers in turn received a conditional fifth-round pick and defensive end Brandon Whiting from the Eagles in exchange for the rights to Owens. Owens's contract with the Eagles was reported to be worth $49 million for seven years, including a $10 million signing bonus.
On April 2005, Owens announced that he had hired a new agent, Drew Rosenhaus, and indicated that he would seek to have his contract with the Eagles renegotiated. Owens made $9 million in 2004 (most of which being bonus money as his base salary was only $660,000),[10] and was slated to make $4.5 million in 2005. This two year amount did not place Owens in the top 10 paid wide receivers playing. He also made a comment to the effect that he "wasn't the guy who got tired in the Super Bowl"; the remark, thought by most to be directed at quarterback Donovan McNabb, caused a controversy between them to heat up. Owens has always claimed the remark was not directed towards McNabb, but in regard to his obsessive diet and workout programs. On July 1, Owens's relationship with the Eagles became even more tense after Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie and club president Joe Banner denied Owens permission to play basketball in a summer league under the auspices of the NBA's Sacramento Kings.[11]
Owens's contract controversy heated up as training camp drew nearer. Owens, with the negotiating help of Rosenhaus, continued to lobby for a new contract. Owens and Rosenhaus met with Eagles head coach Andy Reid and president Joe Banner, but no agreement was reached (this was in line with the Eagles' policy against contract renegotiations). Owens threatened to hold out of training camp until a deal was reached, but reported to camp on time. When the 2005 football season began, Owens was in the second year of a seven-year, $49 million contract. However, the contract was heavily back-loaded, and while the $49 million figure was routinely touted by the sports media as an example of Owens's greed, the money guaranteed to him was under the annual average for a top-tier wide receiver. During this time Terrell gained his record.
During the season, Owens continued to voice his displeasure. After more remarks about Eagles management and Donovan McNabb, Owens was suspended four games without pay and then deactivated for the rest of the season. (See Controversy Section.) The next season, Owens was released by the Philadelphia Eagles franchise and eventually signed with the Dallas Cowboys.
Owens' relationship with QB Tony Romo was reported to fall apart during the 2008 season. Owens was frustrated with the lack of balls thrown his way and was jealous of the relationship Romo had with Pro Bowl Tight End Jason Witten. After his release from the Cowboys Owens publicly blamed Romo and Offensive Coordinator Jason Garrett for his release. Some unnamed Cowboys players say Terrell was released for a conflict with Tony Romo after the last game of the season in which he "slapped" Tony Romo.
The Cowboys released Owens on March 4, 2009.[18] Owens later said that Jerry Jones had assured him that he would be remaining with the team and that he was blindsided by his release.
NFL records
Currently, the only player in NFL history to score a receiving TD against all 32 NFL teams Currently, the only player in NFL history to score 2 TDs against 31 NFL teams (all except Buffalo Bills) Oldest player to have a TD reception of 98+ yards (35 years, 350 days) Oldest player to have a TD reception of 78+ yards (36 years, 300 days) Oldest player to have a 200 yard receiving game (36 years, 300 days) Consecutive Seasons with at least 6 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945 Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdown receptions, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945 Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945 Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 500 receiving yards, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 750 receiving yards, 1997-2010 (14) Consecutive seasons with at least 40 receptions, 1997-2010 (14) One of six players to have at least 2 receptions of 90+ yards (John Taylor, Mike Quick, Gaynell Tinsley, Steve Watson, and Willard Dewveall)
DarthMonk
At least give Wikipedia some credit if you are going to site damn near the entire page...
ATX_Skins wrote:I don't know how many ways I can explain this to you guys. I do not care about his attitude, yes he is a drama queen, however he performs. This team needs football players not receivers with class that let balls go right through their hands into the D's breadbasket... Obviously T.O. is not a long term realistic option, but I get extremely frustrated when Skins fans think that having a full team of professional class act players is possible.
This doesn't address the conversation. Deadskins said he'd worn out his welcome in SF and then in Philly, you asked him how he knew that. That's the question I addressed and said if you're old enough to remember and followed football then you know that, it's fact. Now you're switching the conversation to whether you care or not about his attitude. I never argued you care, it's irrelevant to the discussion. What Deadskins told you is dead on true. Period.
Ok, then if we want to get more to the point Deadskins said that he was a "cancer". Not that he was traded because of his attitude or that he had worn out his welcome. Then Deadskins went on to say that there were questions of how long he would last in Philly, to that the answer was pretty clear THE SUPER BOWL. From the way I see it San Fran has pretty much sucked since he left, Philly hasn't been to the big game since. so who was the cancer? The guy speaks his mind a little more than he should yes, but he is hardly a cancer.
The players you guys call "cancers" have skills, they are good. If they sucked they wouldn't even be relevant because they wouldn't be playing anywhere regardless. In order to be a cancer you have to be a pretty damn good football player.
No one ever said he wasn't talented. He has been a cancer everywhere (just give him time in Cincy) because he blames his teammates when things don't go great in games. Even though he produces, he still complains about not getting the ball enough. I guy can produce on the field and still wreck team chemistry in the locker room.
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
I would rather have a Twitter posting legit threat at WR than a butterfingered over the hill class act.
Get serious and wake up it's 2010.
First of all, it is simply not true that "all he does is put up numbers." He certainly puts up numbers but that's not all he does. He quits at important moments. He trashes teammates publically. He has a litany of classless transgressions that I need not give links to. We all know of them and admit them unless we are in denial.
Second of all, I too would rather have a "Twitter posting legit threat at WR than a butterfingered over the hill class act." If that were all there was to it I'd be all over it. But he is much more than a Twitter posting legit threat. See above and any complete history of his antics.
Finally, the fact that it is 2010 makes it even more important to have class. 50 years ago an Owens could have said this about a former teammate and almost nobody would've known. In 2010 all comments are instantly public and have much greater effect whether positive or negative.
You can certainly weigh TO's numbers against his negatives and say the numbers trump and others can go the other way but to say he has no negatives or that they don't matter at all is extreme and I dare say flat out wrong.
Recognizing the FACT that TO has put up huge numbers I add the following for anyone interested. I'd forgotten some of this:
Coach Steve Mariucci was fired and former Seahawks coach Dennis Erickson took over. The ensuing season in 2003 proved subpar as the Niners finished 7-9. It was here that Owens decided to leave. Immediately after breaking off all ties to the team, Owens appeared in an interview for Playboy magazine, where he created controversy after insinuating that Garcia was homosexual.[9]
Although Owens was eager to leave the 49ers, the 49ers asserted that Owens's previous agent, David Joseph, had missed the deadline to void the final years of his contract with the team. The NFLPA and Owens disputed this assertion, contending that the deadline referred to by the 49ers was not the applicable deadline. On March 4, 2004, San Francisco, believing it still held Owens's rights, attempted to trade Owens to the Baltimore Ravens for a second round pick in the 2004 draft. However, Owens challenged the 49ers' right to make the deal. Owens assumed that he would become a free agent on March 3, and did not believe that the earlier deadline was applicable. Hence, he negotiated with other teams in advance of his expected free agency, and reached a contract agreement with the Philadelphia Eagles, whose fan base strongly supported Owens in his desire to play for the team. The NFLPA filed a grievance on his behalf.
Before an arbitrator could make a ruling on Owens's grievance, the NFL and the three teams involved in the controversy reached a settlement on March 16, 2004. The Ravens got their second-round pick back from San Francisco, and the 49ers in turn received a conditional fifth-round pick and defensive end Brandon Whiting from the Eagles in exchange for the rights to Owens. Owens's contract with the Eagles was reported to be worth $49 million for seven years, including a $10 million signing bonus.
On April 2005, Owens announced that he had hired a new agent, Drew Rosenhaus, and indicated that he would seek to have his contract with the Eagles renegotiated. Owens made $9 million in 2004 (most of which being bonus money as his base salary was only $660,000),[10] and was slated to make $4.5 million in 2005. This two year amount did not place Owens in the top 10 paid wide receivers playing. He also made a comment to the effect that he "wasn't the guy who got tired in the Super Bowl"; the remark, thought by most to be directed at quarterback Donovan McNabb, caused a controversy between them to heat up. Owens has always claimed the remark was not directed towards McNabb, but in regard to his obsessive diet and workout programs. On July 1, Owens's relationship with the Eagles became even more tense after Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie and club president Joe Banner denied Owens permission to play basketball in a summer league under the auspices of the NBA's Sacramento Kings.[11]
Owens's contract controversy heated up as training camp drew nearer. Owens, with the negotiating help of Rosenhaus, continued to lobby for a new contract. Owens and Rosenhaus met with Eagles head coach Andy Reid and president Joe Banner, but no agreement was reached (this was in line with the Eagles' policy against contract renegotiations). Owens threatened to hold out of training camp until a deal was reached, but reported to camp on time. When the 2005 football season began, Owens was in the second year of a seven-year, $49 million contract. However, the contract was heavily back-loaded, and while the $49 million figure was routinely touted by the sports media as an example of Owens's greed, the money guaranteed to him was under the annual average for a top-tier wide receiver. During this time Terrell gained his record.
During the season, Owens continued to voice his displeasure. After more remarks about Eagles management and Donovan McNabb, Owens was suspended four games without pay and then deactivated for the rest of the season. (See Controversy Section.) The next season, Owens was released by the Philadelphia Eagles franchise and eventually signed with the Dallas Cowboys.
Owens' relationship with QB Tony Romo was reported to fall apart during the 2008 season. Owens was frustrated with the lack of balls thrown his way and was jealous of the relationship Romo had with Pro Bowl Tight End Jason Witten. After his release from the Cowboys Owens publicly blamed Romo and Offensive Coordinator Jason Garrett for his release. Some unnamed Cowboys players say Terrell was released for a conflict with Tony Romo after the last game of the season in which he "slapped" Tony Romo.
The Cowboys released Owens on March 4, 2009.[18] Owens later said that Jerry Jones had assured him that he would be remaining with the team and that he was blindsided by his release.
NFL records
Currently, the only player in NFL history to score a receiving TD against all 32 NFL teams Currently, the only player in NFL history to score 2 TDs against 31 NFL teams (all except Buffalo Bills) Oldest player to have a TD reception of 98+ yards (35 years, 350 days) Oldest player to have a TD reception of 78+ yards (36 years, 300 days) Oldest player to have a 200 yard receiving game (36 years, 300 days) Consecutive Seasons with at least 6 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945 Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdown receptions, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945 Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945 Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 500 receiving yards, 1996-2010 (15) Consecutive seasons with at least 750 receiving yards, 1997-2010 (14) Consecutive seasons with at least 40 receptions, 1997-2010 (14) One of six players to have at least 2 receptions of 90+ yards (John Taylor, Mike Quick, Gaynell Tinsley, Steve Watson, and Willard Dewveall)
DarthMonk
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The above stuff in italics is from Wikipedia.
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Hog Bowl III, V, X Champion (2011, 2013, 2018)
Hognostication Champion (2011, 2013, 2016)
Hognostibowl XII Champion (2017, 2018)
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