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yupchagee wrote:My 1st & #1 hatred is for the Giants, going back before the Cowboys existed. Cowboys are #2 on my list. The Eagles don't bother me that much.

Bob 0119 wrote:

yupchagee wrote:My 1st & #1 hatred is for the Giants, going back before the Cowboys existed. Cowboys are #2 on my list. The Eagles don't bother me that much.

Damn, most of us go George Allen, you went all George Preston Marshall.

Though if you're going that far the number one rival would be the Bears...

'The Bears Happened'
By Shirley Povich
Washington Post Columnist
Monday, Dec. 9, 1940


If you're wanting to know what happened to the Redskins yesterday, maybe this will explain it: The Bears happened to 'em.

The Redskins' 73-0 defeat by a team that they had licked a month ago, doesn't add up. But there it was. It reminds us of our first breathless visit to the Grand Canyon. All we could say is: "There she is, and ain't she a beaut." When they hung up that final score at Griffith Stadium yesterday, all we could utter was: "There it is and wasn't it awful."

This Morning With Shirley Povich
By Shirley Povich
Washington Post Columnist
Nov. 24, 1941; Page 18


Polo Grounds, New York — Well, the Redskins went as far as Sammy Baugh could take them, again today. He had them on his back, in a manner of speaking, and he took them a far piece, but his one-man gang act wasn't enough to beat the Giants.

When Baugh wasn't in there pitching the ball and making the Washington attack move, his team too often looked for all the world like a collection of cigar store Redskins. Those 20 Giant points speak for the Redskins' defense, and the Washington running attack was held to 67 yards all afternoon.

The Redskins were sort of city-slicked up here today. On that train back to Washington they aren't taking any deed to Brooklyn Bridge, but they have a pretty fair idea of how things are done in the big city. The Giants struck a blow for themselves last night, for example, by neglecting to cover the field when the rains came. On a fast field, Baugh might have completed even more than the 16 passes he did connect with in 31 attempts.

It was a slick piece of business by the Giants, too that fetched their important first touchdown. On third down, with 4 yards to the goal, the Giants conned the Redskins out of a touchdown. They had a play that called for Center Mel Hein to snap the ball to the wing back, of all people. The wing back in the case was George Franck, the old Minnesotian who was playing directly behind the left end. And were the Redskins surprised when he scooted around left end, untouched, for touchdown.

welch wrote:Let's see. It's history, but it's also written by the immortal Shirley Povich.

(1) On The Bears (that game):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sp ... kins40.htm

'The Bears Happened'
By Shirley Povich
Washington Post Columnist
Monday, Dec. 9, 1940


If you're wanting to know what happened to the Redskins yesterday, maybe this will explain it: The Bears happened to 'em.

The Redskins' 73-0 defeat by a team that they had licked a month ago, doesn't add up. But there it was. It reminds us of our first breathless visit to the Grand Canyon. All we could say is: "There she is, and ain't she a beaut." When they hung up that final score at Griffith Stadium yesterday, all we could utter was: "There it is and wasn't it awful."

(2) On the Giants (1942):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sp ... baugh1.htm

This Morning With Shirley Povich
By Shirley Povich
Washington Post Columnist
Nov. 24, 1941; Page 18


Polo Grounds, New York — Well, the Redskins went as far as Sammy Baugh could take them, again today. He had them on his back, in a manner of speaking, and he took them a far piece, but his one-man gang act wasn't enough to beat the Giants.

When Baugh wasn't in there pitching the ball and making the Washington attack move, his team too often looked for all the world like a collection of cigar store Redskins. Those 20 Giant points speak for the Redskins' defense, and the Washington running attack was held to 67 yards all afternoon.

The Redskins were sort of city-slicked up here today. On that train back to Washington they aren't taking any deed to Brooklyn Bridge, but they have a pretty fair idea of how things are done in the big city. The Giants struck a blow for themselves last night, for example, by neglecting to cover the field when the rains came. On a fast field, Baugh might have completed even more than the 16 passes he did connect with in 31 attempts.

It was a slick piece of business by the Giants, too that fetched their important first touchdown. On third down, with 4 yards to the goal, the Giants conned the Redskins out of a touchdown. They had a play that called for Center Mel Hein to snap the ball to the wing back, of all people. The wing back in the case was George Franck, the old Minnesotian who was playing directly behind the left end. And were the Redskins surprised when he scooted around left end, untouched, for touchdown.

Note trick play of Hein snap to Franck. Familiar? But it worked.

However, I'd say that since 1971 it's been Dallas Dallas Dallas. Beat Dallas, "America's Team", as they call themselves.

Countertrey wrote:You are deliberately missing the point. There is a reason that this chant exists... and an equivalent one for Philly or the Giants doesnt.

Been there... done that.

I'll continue to consider Dallas the ultimate enemy... and chant "we want dallas" whenever I want.

Countertrey wrote:You are deliberately missing the point. There is a reason that this chant exists... and an equivalent one for Philly or the Giants doesnt.

Been there... done that.

I'll continue to consider Dallas the ultimate enemy... and chant "we want dallas" whenever I want.

Texas oil tycoon Clint Murchison, Jr. was having a hard time bringing an NFL team to Dallas, Texas. He tried buying two teams, but the negotiations fell through. In 1958, Murchison heard that George Preston Marshall, owner of the Washington Redskins, was eager to sell the team. Just as the sale was about to be finalized, Marshall called for a change in terms. Murchison was outraged and canceled the whole deal.

Around this time, Marshall had a falling out with the Redskin band director, Barnee Breeskin. Breeskin had written the music to the Redskins fight song, now a staple at the stadium; additionally, Marshall's wife penned the lyrics to the song. Breeskin wanted revenge after the failed negotiations with Marshall. He approached Tom Webb, Murchison’s lawyer, and sold the rights for $2,500.

Murchison then decided to create his own team, with the support of NFL expansion committee chairman, George Halas. Halas decided to put the proposition of a Dallas franchise before the NFL owners, which needed to have unanimous approval in order to pass. The only owner against the proposal was George Preston Marshall. However, Marshall found out that Murchison owned the rights to Washington's fight song, so a deal was finally struck. If Marshall showed his approval of the Dallas franchise, Murchison would return the song. The Cowboys were then founded and began playing in 1960.

To build the roster of an expansion team, Dallas was allowed to pick certain players from certain teams per League rules. Murchison selected the Redskins' Pro Bowl quarterback, Eddie LeBaron, who would become the Cowboys' first starting quarterback. Somehow, Marshall had forgotten to move LeBaron to the team's "protected" list.