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SnyderSucks wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

UK Skins Fan wrote:Shanahan and Allen have effectively given themselves a "fail" grade for the draft this year. Only two of the draftees made it on to the opening day roster? Yuk. Another wasted draft, excluding Williams and Riley.

Agreed.

We cannot afford wasted drafts anymore. There is only so much that can be added with Free Agents. Best teams make good draft choices -and- good FA acquisitions.

Skins 2010 is a much better team than the 2009 embarrassment. However, this is obviously a work-in-progress and we should be satisfied fielding a more competitive team every weekend for this season.

I would be happy with a 0.500 record or its neighbourhood. Anything better is gravy to me. We are definitely on a positive track. Improvement has taken place, just that a miracle turnaround from such a disastrous situation cannot happen in a single season.

Hail!

People are blowing this 4 out of 6 didn't make the roster thing out of proportion. The four who didn't make it were 6th and 7th rounders. Those guys don't make rosters at a high percentage on any team. It's not like they made three second round picks who can't contribute. There first round pick is a day one starter and their fourth rounder also made the team. It makes a good headline to say 4 of 6 didn't make the team, but in reality, 4 of the 6 were unlikely to make the team the day they were drafted. The sixth and seventh round is where teams take a gamble on long shots. It would have been good luck for one of them to make the team, not poor drafting.

True. The real problem is that we had mostly late round picks because of our tendency to mortgage the future.

markshark84 wrote:

yupchagee wrote:

markshark84 wrote:After glancing over this, it is obvious that our WR situation is where we are weakest. I would like to see Armstrong get the #2 spot.

Personally, I am not surprised about Paulson only because I could see ey/Davis playing WR in certain situations -- mainly because of our lack of depth at the WR position.

Our LB core appears to be very good. We have 5 solid LBs; 2 of which are "elite" and 1 that is solidly "above average". Carter played very well last year -- so he may also be "above average", but you never know due to the position change.

Our DL situation is a little different; we really need to find some DEs in the next draft. We are REALLY OLD at the DE position and because of this, I would not be surprised if we have some DE injuries over the course of the season.

All in all, though, this roster is a MAJOR upgrade from last year. Let's hope that they can gell as a unit early and get some early Ws.

Jarmon, Golston & Carriker are old?

No, but Holliday, Daniels, and Kemoeatu are. And in reality, Jarmon and Golston are not going to be our DEs of the future. There is a question-mark with Carriker because of his college career and potential upside within a new enviornment, but outside of that, we only really have Haynesworth on the line that is very good and under 30 -- and who knows how long he will be here.

Kemo plays DE? How do you know that Golston & Jarmon have no futures? Golston has played well for us & Jarmon has a lot of upside.

SnyderSucks wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

UK Skins Fan wrote:Shanahan and Allen have effectively given themselves a "fail" grade for the draft this year. Only two of the draftees made it on to the opening day roster? Yuk. Another wasted draft, excluding Williams and Riley.

Agreed.

We cannot afford wasted drafts anymore. There is only so much that can be added with Free Agents. Best teams make good draft choices -and- good FA acquisitions.

Skins 2010 is a much better team than the 2009 embarrassment. However, this is obviously a work-in-progress and we should be satisfied fielding a more competitive team every weekend for this season.

I would be happy with a 0.500 record or its neighbourhood. Anything better is gravy to me. We are definitely on a positive track. Improvement has taken place, just that a miracle turnaround from such a disastrous situation cannot happen in a single season.

Hail!

People are blowing this 4 out of 6 didn't make the roster thing out of proportion. The four who didn't make it were 6th and 7th rounders. Those guys don't make rosters at a high percentage on any team. It's not like they made three second round picks who can't contribute. There first round pick is a day one starter and their fourth rounder also made the team. It makes a good headline to say 4 of 6 didn't make the team, but in reality, 4 of the 6 were unlikely to make the team the day they were drafted. The sixth and seventh round is where teams take a gamble on long shots. It would have been good luck for one of them to make the team, not poor drafting.

It was poor drafting. It was clear from the beginning that only a couple would make it, and one of them a no-brainer, the other a second stringer.
To my surprise, Austin was competitive, and I'm sorry he didn't make it.
Unlike others on this board, I am still unwilling to give Shanny and Allen high marks. Brown is doubtful, Galloway a real weakness (if he is to start), our backfield is one back deep, and the rest of our OL is still subpar, even with Williams. Even worse, the DL hasn't shown a thing, except that we are going to the 3-4 before we have adequate personel to play it. My fingers will be crossed against Dallas, but I think we'll lose by a good margin to start off a season that will not end well. I think Shanny has defied conventional wisdom in a number of areas and that it come back to bite him. I hope he has the good sense to start Armstrong over Galloway and come out throwing, but don't think he will. I don't think our OL can open holes for Portis and Johnson. It's more likely McNabb can avoid the rush and complete passes in spite of poor play by the OL, which I think is a given. I think the pukes will shatter out DL, with or without Haynesworth--typical runs will be from three to five yards without relief.

yupchagee wrote:

markshark84 wrote:

yupchagee wrote:

markshark84 wrote:After glancing over this, it is obvious that our WR situation is where we are weakest. I would like to see Armstrong get the #2 spot.

Personally, I am not surprised about Paulson only because I could see ey/Davis playing WR in certain situations -- mainly because of our lack of depth at the WR position.

Our LB core appears to be very good. We have 5 solid LBs; 2 of which are "elite" and 1 that is solidly "above average". Carter played very well last year -- so he may also be "above average", but you never know due to the position change.

Our DL situation is a little different; we really need to find some DEs in the next draft. We are REALLY OLD at the DE position and because of this, I would not be surprised if we have some DE injuries over the course of the season.

All in all, though, this roster is a MAJOR upgrade from last year. Let's hope that they can gell as a unit early and get some early Ws.

Jarmon, Golston & Carriker are old?

No, but Holliday, Daniels, and Kemoeatu are. And in reality, Jarmon and Golston are not going to be our DEs of the future. There is a question-mark with Carriker because of his college career and potential upside within a new enviornment, but outside of that, we only really have Haynesworth on the line that is very good and under 30 -- and who knows how long he will be here.

Kemo plays DE? How do you know that Golston & Jarmon have no futures? Golston has played well for us & Jarmon has a lot of upside.

People are sleeping on Golston, 3-4 DE is perfect for him, he's one of the most underrated one-gap DT's in the league. Although I'd rather have Albert take over his or Daniels spot eventually.

crazyhorse1 wrote:

SnyderSucks wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

UK Skins Fan wrote:Shanahan and Allen have effectively given themselves a "fail" grade for the draft this year. Only two of the draftees made it on to the opening day roster? Yuk. Another wasted draft, excluding Williams and Riley.

Agreed.

We cannot afford wasted drafts anymore. There is only so much that can be added with Free Agents. Best teams make good draft choices -and- good FA acquisitions.

Skins 2010 is a much better team than the 2009 embarrassment. However, this is obviously a work-in-progress and we should be satisfied fielding a more competitive team every weekend for this season.

I would be happy with a 0.500 record or its neighbourhood. Anything better is gravy to me. We are definitely on a positive track. Improvement has taken place, just that a miracle turnaround from such a disastrous situation cannot happen in a single season.

Hail!

People are blowing this 4 out of 6 didn't make the roster thing out of proportion. The four who didn't make it were 6th and 7th rounders. Those guys don't make rosters at a high percentage on any team. It's not like they made three second round picks who can't contribute. There first round pick is a day one starter and their fourth rounder also made the team. It makes a good headline to say 4 of 6 didn't make the team, but in reality, 4 of the 6 were unlikely to make the team the day they were drafted. The sixth and seventh round is where teams take a gamble on long shots. It would have been good luck for one of them to make the team, not poor drafting.

It was poor drafting. It was clear from the beginning that only a couple would make it, and one of them a no-brainer, the other a second stringer.
To my surprise, Austin was competitive, and I'm sorry he didn't make it.
Unlike others on this board, I am still unwilling to give Shanny and Allen high marks. Brown is doubtful, Galloway a real weakness (if he is to start), our backfield is one back deep, and the rest of our OL is still subpar, even with Williams. Even worse, the DL hasn't shown a thing, except that we are going to the 3-4 before we have adequate personel to play it. My fingers will be crossed against Dallas, but I think we'll lose by a good margin to start off a season that will not end well. I think Shanny has defied conventional wisdom in a number of areas and that it come back to bite him. I hope he has the good sense to start Armstrong over Galloway and come out throwing, but don't think he will. I don't think our OL can open holes for Portis and Johnson. It's more likely McNabb can avoid the rush and complete passes in spite of poor play by the OL, which I think is a given. I think the pukes will shatter out DL, with or without Haynesworth--typical runs will be from three to five yards without relief.

No need to be so pessimistic, CH. The Pies OL sucks, Orakpo will be on Romo all day. I'm looking for three turnovers from him (2 picks and a fumble). Skins win easily.

crazyhorse1 wrote:

SnyderSucks wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

UK Skins Fan wrote:Shanahan and Allen have effectively given themselves a "fail" grade for the draft this year. Only two of the draftees made it on to the opening day roster? Yuk. Another wasted draft, excluding Williams and Riley.

Agreed.

We cannot afford wasted drafts anymore. There is only so much that can be added with Free Agents. Best teams make good draft choices -and- good FA acquisitions.

Skins 2010 is a much better team than the 2009 embarrassment. However, this is obviously a work-in-progress and we should be satisfied fielding a more competitive team every weekend for this season.

I would be happy with a 0.500 record or its neighbourhood. Anything better is gravy to me. We are definitely on a positive track. Improvement has taken place, just that a miracle turnaround from such a disastrous situation cannot happen in a single season.

Hail!

People are blowing this 4 out of 6 didn't make the roster thing out of proportion. The four who didn't make it were 6th and 7th rounders. Those guys don't make rosters at a high percentage on any team. It's not like they made three second round picks who can't contribute. There first round pick is a day one starter and their fourth rounder also made the team. It makes a good headline to say 4 of 6 didn't make the team, but in reality, 4 of the 6 were unlikely to make the team the day they were drafted. The sixth and seventh round is where teams take a gamble on long shots. It would have been good luck for one of them to make the team, not poor drafting.

It was poor drafting. It was clear from the beginning that only a couple would make it, and one of them a no-brainer, the other a second stringer.
To my surprise, Austin was competitive, and I'm sorry he didn't make it.
Unlike others on this board, I am still unwilling to give Shanny and Allen high marks. Brown is doubtful, Galloway a real weakness (if he is to start), our backfield is one back deep, and the rest of our OL is still subpar, even with Williams. Even worse, the DL hasn't shown a thing, except that we are going to the 3-4 before we have adequate personel to play it. My fingers will be crossed against Dallas, but I think we'll lose by a good margin to start off a season that will not end well. I think Shanny has defied conventional wisdom in a number of areas and that it come back to bite him. I hope he has the good sense to start Armstrong over Galloway and come out throwing, but don't think he will. I don't think our OL can open holes for Portis and Johnson. It's more likely McNabb can avoid the rush and complete passes in spite of poor play by the OL, which I think is a given. I think the pukes will shatter out DL, with or without Haynesworth--typical runs will be from three to five yards without relief.

Wow, what a glass half full PoV. I've heard more positive remarks from our rival fans...

VetSkinsFan wrote:

crazyhorse1 wrote:It was poor drafting. It was clear from the beginning that only a couple would make it, and one of them a no-brainer, the other a second stringer.
To my surprise, Austin was competitive, and I'm sorry he didn't make it.
Unlike others on this board, I am still unwilling to give Shanny and Allen high marks. Brown is doubtful, Galloway a real weakness (if he is to start), our backfield is one back deep, and the rest of our OL is still subpar, even with Williams. Even worse, the DL hasn't shown a thing, except that we are going to the 3-4 before we have adequate personel to play it. My fingers will be crossed against Dallas, but I think we'll lose by a good margin to start off a season that will not end well. I think Shanny has defied conventional wisdom in a number of areas and that it come back to bite him. I hope he has the good sense to start Armstrong over Galloway and come out throwing, but don't think he will. I don't think our OL can open holes for Portis and Johnson. It's more likely McNabb can avoid the rush and complete passes in spite of poor play by the OL, which I think is a given. I think the pukes will shatter out DL, with or without Haynesworth--typical runs will be from three to five yards without relief.

Wow, what a glass half full PoV. I've heard more positive remarks from our rival fans...

Ch1 negative? That's so unlike him...

crazyhorse1 wrote:

SnyderSucks wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

UK Skins Fan wrote:Shanahan and Allen have effectively given themselves a "fail" grade for the draft this year. Only two of the draftees made it on to the opening day roster? Yuk. Another wasted draft, excluding Williams and Riley.

Agreed.

We cannot afford wasted drafts anymore. There is only so much that can be added with Free Agents. Best teams make good draft choices -and- good FA acquisitions.

Skins 2010 is a much better team than the 2009 embarrassment. However, this is obviously a work-in-progress and we should be satisfied fielding a more competitive team every weekend for this season.

I would be happy with a 0.500 record or its neighbourhood. Anything better is gravy to me. We are definitely on a positive track. Improvement has taken place, just that a miracle turnaround from such a disastrous situation cannot happen in a single season.

Hail!

People are blowing this 4 out of 6 didn't make the roster thing out of proportion. The four who didn't make it were 6th and 7th rounders. Those guys don't make rosters at a high percentage on any team. It's not like they made three second round picks who can't contribute. There first round pick is a day one starter and their fourth rounder also made the team. It makes a good headline to say 4 of 6 didn't make the team, but in reality, 4 of the 6 were unlikely to make the team the day they were drafted. The sixth and seventh round is where teams take a gamble on long shots. It would have been good luck for one of them to make the team, not poor drafting.

It was poor drafting. It was clear from the beginning that only a couple would make it, and one of them a no-brainer, the other a second stringer.
To my surprise, Austin was competitive, and I'm sorry he didn't make it.
Unlike others on this board, I am still unwilling to give Shanny and Allen high marks. Brown is doubtful, Galloway a real weakness (if he is to start), our backfield is one back deep, and the rest of our OL is still subpar, even with Williams. Even worse, the DL hasn't shown a thing, except that we are going to the 3-4 before we have adequate personel to play it. My fingers will be crossed against Dallas, but I think we'll lose by a good margin to start off a season that will not end well. I think Shanny has defied conventional wisdom in a number of areas and that it come back to bite him. I hope he has the good sense to start Armstrong over Galloway and come out throwing, but don't think he will. I don't think our OL can open holes for Portis and Johnson. It's more likely McNabb can avoid the rush and complete passes in spite of poor play by the OL, which I think is a given. I think the pukes will shatter out DL, with or without Haynesworth--typical runs will be from three to five yards without relief.

Sure, some of the moves that they have made (in and out of the draft) are questionable, but by and large Shanahan and Allen have done a very good since taking over, especially given the state of the franchise when they took over. It is going to take more than one season to turn this thing around, but so far they look like they are on the right track. We've upgraded a number of areas (i.e. qb) and started to build depth at certain other positions (i.e. cb).

The one thing from your post that I do agree with is the DL. Golston, Carriker, and Kemo is a joke of a starting 3 and it will be exposed if we can't get Haynesworth on track. But like with other things, it's going to take time.

I think (and pray) Kemo is still not 100% mentally recovered from that achilles. He came in with a good pre-injury rep (don't recall him playing personally) and he's barely a shadow of what his reputation illustrated. I hope that we'll see fast and vast improvement (starting on Homo) from him or something gets switched up, b/c he was getting blown off the LoS in pre-season.

The team officially brought back LB Robert Henson and OT Clint Oldenburg and put them on IR after they were not claimed on waivers.

1niksder wrote:The team officially brought back LB Robert Henson and OT Clint Oldenburg and put them on IR after they were not claimed on waivers.

Did anyone hear what Henson's actual injury was? I know it looked bad it me when he couldn't stand on it.

VetSkinsFan wrote:

1niksder wrote:The team officially brought back LB Robert Henson and OT Clint Oldenburg and put them on IR after they were not claimed on waivers.

Did anyone hear what Henson's actual injury was? I know it looked bad it me when he couldn't stand on it.

via tweeter about 1 hour ago:

Russellmania09
The extent of the injury and damage to Henson's knee is still unclear, but he is ineligible obviously to play in 2010 for the #Redskins.

Hey 1niksder, can you explain why we would put Henson on the waived injured list, and expose him to being picked up by another team, rather than just put him on the IR in the first place?

Deadskins wrote:Hey 1niksder, can you explain why we would put Henson on the waived injured list, and expose him to being picked up by another team, rather than just put him on the IR in the first place?

If I remember this correctly, this gives them the option to release him with a injury settlement. The settlement amount is based on a doctor's evaluation of the time it will take to rehab. At some point after that time has passed (I believe it's another 2 weeks after what the settlement amount covers the he can be re-signed for this season

1niksder wrote:

Deadskins wrote:Hey 1niksder, can you explain why we would put Henson on the waived injured list, and expose him to being picked up by another team, rather than just put him on the IR in the first place?

If I remember this correctly, this gives them the option to release him with a injury settlement. The settlement amount is based on a doctor's evaluation of the time it will take to rehab. At some point after that time has passed (I believe it's another 2 weeks after what the settlement amount covers the he can be re-signed for this season

I always wondered what the difference was. Thanks!

CanesSkins26 wrote:

crazyhorse1 wrote:

SnyderSucks wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

UK Skins Fan wrote:Shanahan and Allen have effectively given themselves a "fail" grade for the draft this year. Only two of the draftees made it on to the opening day roster? Yuk. Another wasted draft, excluding Williams and Riley.

Agreed.

We cannot afford wasted drafts anymore. There is only so much that can be added with Free Agents. Best teams make good draft choices -and- good FA acquisitions.

Skins 2010 is a much better team than the 2009 embarrassment. However, this is obviously a work-in-progress and we should be satisfied fielding a more competitive team every weekend for this season.

I would be happy with a 0.500 record or its neighbourhood. Anything better is gravy to me. We are definitely on a positive track. Improvement has taken place, just that a miracle turnaround from such a disastrous situation cannot happen in a single season.

Hail!

People are blowing this 4 out of 6 didn't make the roster thing out of proportion. The four who didn't make it were 6th and 7th rounders. Those guys don't make rosters at a high percentage on any team. It's not like they made three second round picks who can't contribute. There first round pick is a day one starter and their fourth rounder also made the team. It makes a good headline to say 4 of 6 didn't make the team, but in reality, 4 of the 6 were unlikely to make the team the day they were drafted. The sixth and seventh round is where teams take a gamble on long shots. It would have been good luck for one of them to make the team, not poor drafting.

It was poor drafting. It was clear from the beginning that only a couple would make it, and one of them a no-brainer, the other a second stringer.
To my surprise, Austin was competitive, and I'm sorry he didn't make it.
Unlike others on this board, I am still unwilling to give Shanny and Allen high marks. Brown is doubtful, Galloway a real weakness (if he is to start), our backfield is one back deep, and the rest of our OL is still subpar, even with Williams. Even worse, the DL hasn't shown a thing, except that we are going to the 3-4 before we have adequate personel to play it. My fingers will be crossed against Dallas, but I think we'll lose by a good margin to start off a season that will not end well. I think Shanny has defied conventional wisdom in a number of areas and that it come back to bite him. I hope he has the good sense to start Armstrong over Galloway and come out throwing, but don't think he will. I don't think our OL can open holes for Portis and Johnson. It's more likely McNabb can avoid the rush and complete passes in spite of poor play by the OL, which I think is a given. I think the pukes will shatter out DL, with or without Haynesworth--typical runs will be from three to five yards without relief.

Sure, some of the moves that they have made (in and out of the draft) are questionable, but by and large Shanahan and Allen have done a very good since taking over, especially given the state of the franchise when they took over. It is going to take more than one season to turn this thing around, but so far they look like they are on the right track. We've upgraded a number of areas (i.e. qb) and started to build depth at certain other positions (i.e. cb).

The one thing from your post that I do agree with is the DL. Golston, Carriker, and Kemo is a joke of a starting 3 and it will be exposed if we can't get Haynesworth on track. But like with other things, it's going to take time.

Again, I think it's unfair to go after Allen/Shannahan for the issues cited. Signing Galloway? Okay, not super fantastic, but who was available that was better? They had a plan and they patiently executed it. On the Oline, they drafted a left tackle and got Brown for very little after waiting for him patiently. The still have no depth, but again, who else should they have signed? Flozell Adams wanted starters money and isn't a starter anymore. I can't complain about a team that adds starting left and right tackles and starting QB in the offseason for picks 1,2,3, and 4.

I think the Dline is fine, regardless of haynesworth. 3-4 lines are meant to occupy blockers and allow the LB's to make plays. The hardest to find is the nose, which Kemo is accomplished at as long as he stays healthy.

It's going to take more than one year to rebuild this team. Next year with full free agency they'll better able to build depth.

I think the Dline is fine, regardless of haynesworth. 3-4 lines are meant to occupy blockers and allow the LB's to make plays. The hardest to find is the nose, which Kemo is accomplished at as long as he stays healthy.

Yea, but when your front three gets pushed back on a consistent basis, which is what happened to our Dline in the preseason, then you have problems, no matter if you're playing a 3-4 or a 4-3. And Kemo has looked TERRIBLE during the preseason.

CanesSkins26 wrote:

I think the Dline is fine, regardless of haynesworth. 3-4 lines are meant to occupy blockers and allow the LB's to make plays. The hardest to find is the nose, which Kemo is accomplished at as long as he stays healthy.

Yea, but when your front three gets pushed back on a consistent basis, which is what happened to our Dline in the preseason, then you have problems, no matter if you're playing a 3-4 or a 4-3. And Kemo has looked TERRIBLE during the preseason.

I've noticed the same, Canes. You think it's mental still coming form achilles or what?

VetSkinsFan wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

I think the Dline is fine, regardless of haynesworth. 3-4 lines are meant to occupy blockers and allow the LB's to make plays. The hardest to find is the nose, which Kemo is accomplished at as long as he stays healthy.

Yea, but when your front three gets pushed back on a consistent basis, which is what happened to our Dline in the preseason, then you have problems, no matter if you're playing a 3-4 or a 4-3. And Kemo has looked TERRIBLE during the preseason.

I've noticed the same, Canes. You think it's mental still coming form achilles or what?

They've played three games. They destroyed the bills. They held the ravens to 3.3 ypc, ignoring some 51 yard rush by a safey - not sure what that is. They lost to the jets. They held the jets to three points through three quarters. The jets starters finally scored in the fourth quarter against second and third team defense. Obviously, someone was out of position on that tomlinson run, but they've had two weeks to correct that. Don't forget the Jets are supposed to be super bowl contenders and they scored 3 points.

It's only preseason, but beat the bad teams and split with the good teams gets you a pretty good record. Plus, Dallas' O-line has injuries and has looked terrible.

VetSkinsFan wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

I think the Dline is fine, regardless of haynesworth. 3-4 lines are meant to occupy blockers and allow the LB's to make plays. The hardest to find is the nose, which Kemo is accomplished at as long as he stays healthy.

Yea, but when your front three gets pushed back on a consistent basis, which is what happened to our Dline in the preseason, then you have problems, no matter if you're playing a 3-4 or a 4-3. And Kemo has looked TERRIBLE during the preseason.

I've noticed the same, Canes. You think it's mental still coming form achilles or what?

I bet it's partly mental and also he could possibly not be fully recovered. An Achilles injury is a pretty serious injury and who knows if he'll ever be the same player that he was prior. That's a tough injury to come back from for someone his size. On the mental side, he just seemed tentative to me, almost as if he was constantly thinking about the possibility of another player rolling up on his leg, instead of just playing and being aggressive.

SnyderSucks wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

I think the Dline is fine, regardless of haynesworth. 3-4 lines are meant to occupy blockers and allow the LB's to make plays. The hardest to find is the nose, which Kemo is accomplished at as long as he stays healthy.

Yea, but when your front three gets pushed back on a consistent basis, which is what happened to our Dline in the preseason, then you have problems, no matter if you're playing a 3-4 or a 4-3. And Kemo has looked TERRIBLE during the preseason.

I've noticed the same, Canes. You think it's mental still coming form achilles or what?

They've played three games. They destroyed the bills. They held the ravens to 3.3 ypc, ignoring some 51 yard rush by a safey - not sure what that is. They lost to the jets. They held the jets to three points through three quarters. The jets starters finally scored in the fourth quarter against second and third team defense. Obviously, someone was out of position on that tomlinson run, but they've had two weeks to correct that. Don't forget the Jets are supposed to be super bowl contenders and they scored 3 points.

It's only preseason, but beat the bad teams and split with the good teams gets you a pretty good record. Plus, Dallas' O-line has injuries and has looked terrible.

No, they've played four games, and they beat the Jets (without their starting QB).

Deadskins wrote:

SnyderSucks wrote:They've played three games. They destroyed the bills. They held the ravens to 3.3 ypc, ignoring some 51 yard rush by a safey - not sure what that is. They lost to the jets. They held the jets to three points through three quarters. The jets starters finally scored in the fourth quarter against second and third team defense. Obviously, someone was out of position on that tomlinson run, but they've had two weeks to correct that. Don't forget the Jets are supposed to be super bowl contenders and they scored 3 points.

It's only preseason, but beat the bad teams and split with the good teams gets you a pretty good record. Plus, Dallas' O-line has injuries and has looked terrible.

No, they've played four games, and they beat the Jets (without their starting QB).

Pretty obviously he wasn't counting the one that no starters played in

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

SnyderSucks wrote:They've played three games. They destroyed the bills. They held the ravens to 3.3 ypc, ignoring some 51 yard rush by a safey - not sure what that is. They lost to the jets. They held the jets to three points through three quarters. The jets starters finally scored in the fourth quarter against second and third team defense. Obviously, someone was out of position on that tomlinson run, but they've had two weeks to correct that. Don't forget the Jets are supposed to be super bowl contenders and they scored 3 points.

It's only preseason, but beat the bad teams and split with the good teams gets you a pretty good record. Plus, Dallas' O-line has injuries and has looked terrible.

No, they've played four games, and they beat the Jets (without their starting QB).

Pretty obviously he wasn't counting the one that no starters played in

Not so obvious when he also said we lost to the Jets.

Deadskins wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

SnyderSucks wrote:They've played three games. They destroyed the bills. They held the ravens to 3.3 ypc, ignoring some 51 yard rush by a safey - not sure what that is. They lost to the jets. They held the jets to three points through three quarters. The jets starters finally scored in the fourth quarter against second and third team defense. Obviously, someone was out of position on that tomlinson run, but they've had two weeks to correct that. Don't forget the Jets are supposed to be super bowl contenders and they scored 3 points.

It's only preseason, but beat the bad teams and split with the good teams gets you a pretty good record. Plus, Dallas' O-line has injuries and has looked terrible.

No, they've played four games, and they beat the Jets (without their starting QB).

Pretty obviously he wasn't counting the one that no starters played in

Not so obvious when he also said we lost to the Jets.

Right, the one he's not counting is the Cardinals. You know, the fourth game? The one no starters played in?

I'm going to give these guys a little more credit than some here - We should look at where we were last season and evaluate on where we are at this time NOT where we might be - these guys did not have much to work with here both with the players and the draft picks

Offense:
We had one of the worst offensive lines we have seen here (even with Bugel as the line coach) - sure the play calling sucked but that line was horrible and it is now much improved in my opinion - they still need a better line but that is more likely with this new FO

The QB position is a HUGE upgrade - McNabb is a leader and he will help on the field - we will have to find a future great QB soon but that is possible with the new FO

The WR position is a work in progress also but this position is not as critical as not having a really good offensive line - admittedly we are not great at WR but they will get the job done PROVIDING the line can give McNabb some time - this position will also be upgraded in time

RB is a bit of a concern but I think Portis will benefit from better play calling and a bit of an upgrade from last year's O line - Portis seems to really be buying into the 'new look' team & FO as well - he understands that he's accountable now

Defense:
I think that Haslett will have a more effective defensive scheme here than we have had - we might not rate as high statistically but this defense IMO will create more turnovers and give the offense more opportunities and better field position - who cares about stats - we need a defense that can stop the opposing team's offense and get the ball back to the offense


I'm looking forward to a better season and hopefully we have NFL football in 2011, because I think we are going to be in the playoffs again

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