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I don't think that photo is from this offseason. I'm sure he's not working out with his trainer with a jersey on.

frankcal20 wrote:I don't think that photo is from this offseason. I'm sure he's not working out with his trainer with a jersey on.

so ..... are you implying that the photo is not indicative of this guy being in better shape than last year?

just asking

btw - I'll just say it again - "I have heard that Haynesworth is trying to get in much better shape than he was last year" AND these 'reports' come from sources close to Snyder NOT the player

BUT .... for those of you that like to have negative vibes about this guy, I totally understand

Honestly, I hope he's in better shape because he just wasn't ready to play football last year. He was gassed on every other play. Hopefully he is in better shape and he comes ready to play in the 3-4/4-3/5-2 whatever the coach wants to call. Just be ready.

frankcal20 wrote:Honestly, I hope he's in better shape because he just wasn't ready to play football last year. He was gassed on every other play. Hopefully he is in better shape and he comes ready to play in the 3-4/4-3/5-2 whatever the coach wants to call. Just be ready.

so .... you don't think the photo is real but you do hope that his choice of getting into shape on his own because he thinks he will be more effective as a defensive player, is OK?

just trying to clarify this?

frankcal20 wrote:I don't think that photo is from this offseason. I'm sure he's not working out with his trainer with a jersey on.

Ummm... when else would he have been in THAT shape while a Redskin???

Certainly not last year... prior to that, he was in powder blue...

Countertrey wrote:

frankcal20 wrote:I don't think that photo is from this offseason. I'm sure he's not working out with his trainer with a jersey on.

Ummm... when else would he have been in THAT shape while a Redskin???

Certainly not last year... prior to that, he was in powder blue...

Good point. The only question is if the photo was "photoshopped". The truth will be evident in another week.

yupchagee wrote:

Countertrey wrote:

frankcal20 wrote:I don't think that photo is from this offseason. I'm sure he's not working out with his trainer with a jersey on.

Ummm... when else would he have been in THAT shape while a Redskin???
Certainly not last year... prior to that, he was in powder blue...

Good point. The only question is if the photo was "photoshopped". The truth will be evident in another week.

AGREED - he needs to not only show up in great shape but he also better have his head in the right place too

all will be a lot clearer in a week or so - I'm hopeful but am not sure about this guy
Haynesworth has not exactly shown that he's got a lot of IQ going for him

Interesting article on the big Al situation. A little excerpt I found on page 2:

"And even though he played in just 12 games, he took the second-most snaps of any defensive lineman other than Carter."

link

VetSkinsFan wrote:

The Hogster wrote:He may have lost 32 pounds, let's just hope it wasn't after he gained 33.

Did you see the pic? He looks a lot trimmer than last year.

looks like the trainer is cinching his gurney, lol. I hope he is trim and speedy, he has a lot of thing to prove this season. =)

VetSkinsFan wrote:Interesting article on the big Al situation. A little excerpt I found on page 2:
"And even though he played in just 12 games, he took the second-most snaps of any defensive lineman other than Carter."

Mike Wise is really just stating the obvious - we here have all realized for a while that this franchise was going to go ahead and keep this guy IF we could not make a deal that was better for this franchise ESPECIALLY after paying him the money - we are a better defense with him

the 'stat' about the number of snaps a defensive lineman played is not really indicative of much - he was not the factor on defense he should have been PRIMARILY IMO because he was not able to play to the level he is capable of

SkinsJock wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:Interesting article on the big Al situation. A little excerpt I found on page 2:
"And even though he played in just 12 games, he took the second-most snaps of any defensive lineman other than Carter."

Mike Wise is really just stating the obvious - we here have all realized for a while that this franchise was going to go ahead and keep this guy IF we could not make a deal that was better for this franchise ESPECIALLY after paying him the money - we are a better defense with him

the 'stat' about the number of snaps a defensive lineman played is not really indicative of much - he was not the factor on defense he should have been PRIMARILY IMO because he was not able to play to the level he is capable of

I guess Orakpo's PB nod and Carter's career year weren't related to his presence.

OK Vet - what are you trying to say here?

most here seem to think that Haynesworth played very well last year AND due to his presence on the field, some other members of the defense also were recognized - HOWEVER most here seem to think that Haynesworth was not in the best shape and could have been a bit more of a factor

I wonder why Haynesworth was not selected to the PB even though everyone on this planet agrees he is one of the most dominating defensive players WHEN he is in shape

just my .

I hear he lost so much weight, he wants to be our 3rd WR now. God bless him!

Law Hog wrote:I hear he lost so much weight, he wants to be our 3rd WR now. God bless him!

I think he prefers defense. He wants to play CB & return kicks.

SkinsJock wrote:OK Vet - what are you trying to say here?

most here seem to think that Haynesworth played very well last year AND due to his presence on the field, some other members of the defense also were recognized - HOWEVER most here seem to think that Haynesworth was not in the best shape and could have been a bit more of a factor

I wonder why Haynesworth was not selected to the PB even though everyone on this planet agrees he is one of the most dominating defensive players WHEN he is in shape

just my .

I never suggested that he was PB material or was in the best shape of his life. I'm merely countering the distractors in saying that Haynesworth was a bust. We <should> all know that Blache didn't allow him to be the Haynesworth that he was in Tennessee. We <should> all know that he took a <bit of> childish attitude when he didn't get his way. Can we get past that part?

The part I disagree with is the level of effect that Haynesworth had on the defense, particularly the front seven. Jason Taylor was a bust for us. Haynesworth...hardly.

Edit: And I'm not trying to argue shades of gray, so if that's the only retort, make it an interesting monologue, b/c I'm not doing it.

I am not saying or intimating anything - in my opinion Haynesworth was a plus for the defense and the front 7 - BUT that is not the point

It's also my opinion (that's what we are doing here) that Haynesworth let EVERYBODY (fans, players, coaches and especially himself) down by not playing to the level he is capable of in 2009 - Blache might have used a lot of players badly but most of the defensive players were available to play at a high level - Haynesworth was not - that is why I think the stat about the number of plays that he was involved with is misleading

I had heard (from sources close to Snyder) that Haynesworth decided a number of months ago that he was going to get in better shape for this season - I think he was hoping to be traded but, whatever ....
he was not in shape last year and most of us were disapointed that while he was a big help he should have made more of an effort to be in better shape than he was
too often here we have seen players brought in that were not 'used' in the best way for both the system or the other players around them - that is not the fault of the player - Haynesworth may not have been coached or put in the best system by Blache BUT the fact remains that Haynesworth was not in shape and that is on him, not the coaches or the other players

Haynesworth was certainly not a bust BUT he was a huge disapointment because he did not make very much of an effort to help himself or the players around him

hopefully this season we will see a rejuvenated Haynesworth and after this season I could care less what he does because this guy does not care about anybody but himself - I hope he's gone

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I disagree for reasons stated above, so he didn't let EVERYBODY down.

No worries here - hopefully Haynesworth finally plays like he's capable of and helps the defense - then, I hope we can put a trade together to get something for him and get a player (or players) in here that want to be a part of helping this franchise become consistently competitive again

Haynesworth is not a bust IMO but he's certainly not an NFL player we look up to or respect - he's just a shame

VetSkinsFan wrote:Interesting article on the big Al situation. A little excerpt I found on page 2:

"And even though he played in just 12 games, he took the second-most snaps of any defensive lineman other than Carter."

Hmm, more than Orakpo? I find that hard to believe. Unless they didn't count his snaps as an LB under his total snaps as a d-lineman.

(Then again, the way that was worded, it sounds like Haynesworth could have taken the 3rd-most snaps on the line: "other than Carter (i.e., of the other three linemen), Haynesworth took the second-most snaps (i.e., of those three)." I know that's not what the author intended, but it seems more believable to me. )

Yet another interesting big Al piece

He also was not pleased with his performance last season. He has confided to friends that he wasn't at his best, and is eager to reestablish himself as the league's premier defensive lineman.

VetSkinsFan wrote:Yet another interesting big Al piece

He also was not pleased with his performance last season. He has confided to friends that he wasn't at his best, and is eager to reestablish himself as the league's premier defensive lineman.

No surprise there. He has another 40 million (or so) good reasons to do it, too!

Irn-Bru wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:Yet another interesting big Al piece

He also was not pleased with his performance last season. He has confided to friends that he wasn't at his best, and is eager to reestablish himself as the league's premier defensive lineman.

No surprise there. He has another 40 million (or so) good reasons to do it, too!

he just did not seem to want to make the effort to be the player he can be - he was very good but he really could have been more effective if he'd just got himself in a bit better shape last year IMO

be interesting to see what he is willing to do to show how good he really is this year - I'll guarantee he doesn't give anything back even though he did not earn his money here last season

Fat Al is all about himself - I hope we see him in a different jersey ASAP

Hello all, obviously I'm new to this board, however; some of you might know me from the other extreme Redskins site. I was banned from there for telling a certain mod that he was not nearly as good of mod as his predecessors. I'm hoping that this board will give me the same great info that I used to get from that board.

That said, I want to believe that big Al is coming into camp in shape and very upset at everybody. I want him mad. I want him to go out and punish every offense player that he lines up against.

I have been very critical of Haynesworth and his actions over the past several months, and while I know he could care less about me or what I say or think, I hope that he goes out there and proves me and everyone who has doubted him wrong.

I still get goose bumps when I think of Haynesworth lining up at DE and Orakpo coming off the edge next to him. That has got to be a QB's worst night mare.

Thanks for letting me join your site and I look forward to getting to know you all.