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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:42 am
by dlc
SKINFAN wrote:DLC, Cooley has been better at recieving than our recievers year in year out. YOu tell me. Your willing to let a jackpot probowl pick like Cooley to gamble on a Lineman who may or may not be able to start?


First of all, as much as people are down on Santana for lack of effort and heart (including myself), he still has been our best WR year in and year out, so that's an exaggeration.

Second, many (including myself) would argue that Cooley gets a lot of touches being the "safety valve" for JC since JC doesn't do well going down field. Is it coincidence that Cooley becomes a Pro Bowler when JC gets installed and the offense becomes terrible?

Last, he is a good player (despite how you interpret my following comments), but not a perennial lock as a Pro Bowl selection. He's a good WR , an average pass blocker, and not a great run blocker. He is overrated (yes, he is overrated) because of his popularity due to his personality. These are the opportunities to try to get something more in need and upgrade at other more important positions. If no one bites, perhaps the rest of the league doesn't think he's as good as some of our fans do.

Fred has not proven anything yet, but he does seem like a viable option. Perhaps he looked really good this year because JC likes safety valves. There are no sure things in life, but trading away Cooley seems like a calculated risk that good teams take.

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:31 pm
by brad7686
Also, when watching Davis last year, I felt like I was watching a superstar develop. True, Cooley is a star and has been, and will be. But I think Davis may become a superstar.

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:58 pm
by VetSkinsFan
dlc wrote:
SKINFAN wrote:DLC, Cooley has been better at recieving than our recievers year in year out. YOu tell me. Your willing to let a jackpot probowl pick like Cooley to gamble on a Lineman who may or may not be able to start?


First of all, as much as people are down on Santana for lack of effort and heart (including myself), he still has been our best WR year in and year out, so that's an exaggeration.

Second, many (including myself) would argue that Cooley gets a lot of touches being the "safety valve" for JC since JC doesn't do well going down field. Is it coincidence that Cooley becomes a Pro Bowler when JC gets installed and the offense becomes terrible?

Last, he is a good player (despite how you interpret my following comments), but not a perennial lock as a Pro Bowl selection. He's a good WR , an average pass blocker, and not a great run blocker. He is overrated (yes, he is overrated) because of his popularity due to his personality. These are the opportunities to try to get something more in need and upgrade at other more important positions. If no one bites, perhaps the rest of the league doesn't think he's as good as some of our fans do.

Fred has not proven anything yet, but he does seem like a viable option. Perhaps he looked really good this year because JC likes safety valves. There are no sure things in life, but trading away Cooley seems like a calculated risk that good teams take.


Check the stats bro. He's led the skins in receptions in '06-'08, and was 2nd in receptions his rookie year('05). He's been second in yardage EVERY year he played 16 games (which is why '09 stats I didn't reference). You don't trade away your #1/#2 receiver. You work with what you got an improve around him.

Fred looks good so far, but a good TE can be an integral part of your offense, and Fred needs to keep improving.