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DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:09 pm

dude is having his best statistical year ever

Are W and L included in those stats??

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:10 pm

W & L are team stat's. He can't do everything.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:15 pm

frankcal20 wrote:W & L are team stat's. He can't do everything.

Then why this comment...

Too bad JC sucks and can't lead a team to victory.

You're saying he was "the leader in the victory"" you can't have it both ways Frank

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:16 pm

Californiaskin wrote:
JCaptMorgan12 wrote:Portis too much cap space next year and seems to have lost interest in hitting the hole hard......dude does not play like he has something to prove like ganther does.........

let's not get too crazy over Ganther. I've seen plenty of no name running backs come in and have success late in the season, and it has nothing to do with them being talented, it has more to do with them being fresh.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:17 pm

I attached the evil smile to it being a smart allick.

welch · Post by **welch** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:17 pm

Campbell looks good enough. He won't ever be Sonny, but then no QB in the last 35 years has thrown as well as Sonny.

Of all the positions that need to be strengthened, QB is near last. It would be nice to have a backup, and it is amazing how much pounding Campbell has taken, but he is better than average.

No, the Redskins do not need to draft the QB from Notre Dame.

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:23 pm

I still would like to see a signature come from behind 4th quarter drive by Campbell before I'm back on board.....maybe against the Cowgirls ?!?

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:25 pm

What if he does the same as he did today and gives them the lead, and the defense holds it. Will he get any credit for that?

RedskinjXd · Post by **RedskinjXd** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:31 pm

how about this... draft spiller from clemson! its almost as good as getting a o-lineman. he is the next chris johnson. if defenses bring that much pressure, and he gets past it... GONE. see ya. 80 yard td. his speed and homerun ability will force defenses to call off the pressure. i love the idea of lining up.... moss, thomas, kelly at WR... davis and cooley at TE... and spiller in the backfield. that could be a fun offense to watch. any thoughts?

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:34 pm

too bad the QB can't pass the ball though. All great names but no help. Got to get a lineman - a few actually.

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:35 pm

frankcal20 wrote:What if he does the same as he did today and gives them the lead, and the defense holds it. Will he get any credit for that?

Of course, but Frank, understand that this is a QB driven league. Once in a while your QB has to win you a game in the 4th quarter.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:38 pm

Actually - it's a "best team" league. Sure the teams that do well have effective QB's but I would say that the best teams have really good O lines. There are a lot of really good QB's that have bad O lines and they are having similar results - Just ask Pittsburgh, Chicago, etc.

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:38 pm

RedskinjXd wrote:how about this... draft spiller from clemson! its almost as good as getting a o-lineman. he is the next chris johnson. if defenses bring that much pressure, and he gets past it... GONE. see ya. 80 yard td. his speed and homerun ability will force defenses to call off the pressure. i love the idea of lining up.... moss, thomas, kelly at WR... davis and cooley at TE... and spiller in the backfield. that could be a fun offense to watch. any thoughts?

I was thinking the same thing last week. Spiller would be nice if we can draft the best C available in the 2nd and somehow sign an upgrade to play RT.

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:39 pm

frankcal20 wrote:Actually - it's a "best team" league. Sure the teams that do well have effective QB's but I would say that the best teams have really good O lines. There are a lot of really good QB's that have bad O lines and they are having similar results - Just ask Pittsburgh, Chicago, etc.

Pittsburgh won a SB with that O-line. Smarten up.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:44 pm

No - they didn't with this o line - Smarten UP.

Ask what their record is with a beaten up, backup filled o line. They are currently 6-7 and were expected to compete for the SB. But their QB gets sacked too much and they don't have a running game - 2 stats 100% associated with the O line.

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:52 pm

frankcal20 wrote:No - they didn't with this o line - Smarten UP.

Ask what their record is with a beaten up, backup filled o line. They are currently 6-7 and were expected to compete for the SB. But their QB gets sacked too much and they don't have a running game - 2 stats 100% associated with the O line.

Frank, I don't know what game you're looking at, but they had virtually the same line last year and won the SB.

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:12 pm

Ganther is running hard. A Ganther plus Spiller combo would be deadly

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:21 pm

frankcal20 wrote:What if he does the same as he did today and gives them the lead, and the defense holds it. Will he get any credit for that?

Somebody said:

W & L are team stat's.

Californiaskin · Post by **Californiaskin** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:25 pm

PAPDOG67 wrote:
Californiaskin wrote:
JCaptMorgan12 wrote:Portis too much cap space next year and seems to have lost interest in hitting the hole hard......dude does not play like he has something to prove like ganther does.........

let's not get too crazy over Ganther. I've seen plenty of no name running backs come in and have success late in the season, and it has nothing to do with them being talented, it has more to do with them being fresh.

ya ok ..... could be anyone ..... just some one hungry that has a chance to take it to the house.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:29 pm

welch wrote:Campbell looks good enough. He won't ever be Sonny, but then no QB in the last 35 years has thrown as well as Sonny.

Of all the positions that need to be strengthened, QB is near last. It would be nice to have a backup, and it is amazing how much pounding Campbell has taken, but he is better than average.

No, the Redskins do not need to draft the QB from Notre Dame.

Correct. Campbell is good enough. He has demonstrated that he can manage the game plan, and can move the team.

I will not, however, expect him to ever have the ability to pull a rabbit from his hat when we need 6 off a 2 minute drill.

No... Sonny, he is not.

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:36 pm

frankcal20 wrote:Too bad JC sucks and can't lead a team to victory.

He did today. Looks like you're wrong.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:37 pm

Countertrey wrote:
welch wrote:Campbell looks good enough. He won't ever be Sonny, but then no QB in the last 35 years has thrown as well as Sonny.

Of all the positions that need to be strengthened, QB is near last. It would be nice to have a backup, and it is amazing how much pounding Campbell has taken, but he is better than average.

No, the Redskins do not need to draft the QB from Notre Dame.

Correct. Campbell is good enough. He has demonstrated that he can manage the game plan, and can move the team.

I will not, however, expect him to ever have the ability to pull a rabbit from his hat when we need 6 off a 2 minute drill.

No... Sonny, he is not.

Well it will be interesting how it plays out...You can just tell Jason loves the position he's in. If there is a new CBA he will be a UFA and I don't see him showing the Skins any love on the other hand if there is no CBA the Skins have some leverage...

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:38 pm

RedskinjXd wrote:how about this... draft spiller from clemson! its almost as good as getting a o-lineman. he is the next chris johnson. if defenses bring that much pressure, and he gets past it... GONE. see ya. 80 yard td. his speed and homerun ability will force defenses to call off the pressure. i love the idea of lining up.... moss, thomas, kelly at WR... davis and cooley at TE... and spiller in the backfield. that could be a fun offense to watch. any thoughts?

Yeah, we need an OT for real.

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:41 pm

crazyhorse1 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:Too bad JC sucks and can't lead a team to victory. :twisted:
He did today. Looks like you're wrong.

Crazyhorse - Don't you know that I'm the biggest JC supporter on this website? I was being a smart as....s.

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:44 pm

frankcal20 wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:Too bad JC sucks and can't lead a team to victory.
He did today. Looks like you're wrong.

Crazyhorse - Don't you know that I'm the biggest JC supporter on this website? I was being a smart as....s.

Frank you are funny...I knew what you're doing... but when I called you on it you hid behind the little devil....you'd make a great politicial...oh that right you're in real estate :lol: