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langleyparkjoe wrote:On draft day, I'm conference calling Frank, CS, Brad, and Cerrato (cause we all know DS won't get rid of this guy).. we're going to get this right.. watch!

brad7686 wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:On draft day, I'm conference calling Frank, CS, Brad, and Cerrato (cause we all know DS won't get rid of this guy).. we're going to get this right.. watch!

I'm usually not very pleasant during the draft. Especially on day two. It's usually who the heck is Cody Glenn this, and What the crap is a Dallas Sartz that. Except I use profanity.

DEHog wrote:Remember drafting for need is what gets you in trouble!!

frankcal20 wrote:I'm not sure how hard it is because NE seems to do it every year. SD is also very good as well as Indy. But again, these guys seem to be regular front runner. But that's where we differ vs them.

Russell Okung, OT Oklahoma State.

thoughts?

brad7686 wrote:Well here's the breakdown of how that pick could go down depending on current records...

Teams before us that could go QB - Cle, Oak, St. Louis?

Teams that could go OT - Det, TB, KC, Oak? (Prob would go Qb first)

Here is a likely scenario where we could get Okung, and I'm going to assume KC pulls out more wins.

Cleveland- Jake Locker
St. Louis- Ndamakong Suh
Tampa Bay-Gerald McCoy
Detroit-Eric Berry
Oakland-Jimmy Clausen
Washington- Russell Okung

The big question would be whether detroit would take Okung or Berry, they should take Berry because they are the worst defensive team I have ever seen. TB and St. Louis are pathetic against the run and should take DT's. Of course, change in records/scouting will skew all of this.

In that scenario, two qb's will be gone. I can tell you I believe its EXTREMELY likely that both Cleveland and Oakland go QB. However, Cleveland could go Suh, being that they are bad against the run. Personally I think Locker will pick up a lot of steam, and we all know that Qb's are the most likely position to be taken no.1

Here's a scenario where we get a Qb.

Cleveland- Jake Locker
St. Louis- Ndamakong Suh
Tampa Bay- Gerald McCoy
Detroit- Eric Berry
Oakland- Russell Okung
Washington- Jimmy Clausen

Here's a scenario where we need to trade back immediately

Cleveland- Jake Locker
St. Louis- Ndamakong Suh
Tampa Bay- Gerald McCoy
Detroit- Russell Okung
Oakland-Jimmy Clausen
Washington (Please don't draft Eric Berry)

HEROHAMO wrote:

brad7686 wrote:Well here's the breakdown of how that pick could go down depending on current records...

Teams before us that could go QB - Cle, Oak, St. Louis?

Teams that could go OT - Det, TB, KC, Oak? (Prob would go Qb first)

Here is a likely scenario where we could get Okung, and I'm going to assume KC pulls out more wins.

Cleveland- Jake Locker
St. Louis- Ndamakong Suh
Tampa Bay-Gerald McCoy
Detroit-Eric Berry
Oakland-Jimmy Clausen
Washington- Russell Okung

The big question would be whether detroit would take Okung or Berry, they should take Berry because they are the worst defensive team I have ever seen. TB and St. Louis are pathetic against the run and should take DT's. Of course, change in records/scouting will skew all of this.

In that scenario, two qb's will be gone. I can tell you I believe its EXTREMELY likely that both Cleveland and Oakland go QB. However, Cleveland could go Suh, being that they are bad against the run. Personally I think Locker will pick up a lot of steam, and we all know that Qb's are the most likely position to be taken no.1

Here's a scenario where we get a Qb.

Cleveland- Jake Locker
St. Louis- Ndamakong Suh
Tampa Bay- Gerald McCoy
Detroit- Eric Berry
Oakland- Russell Okung
Washington- Jimmy Clausen

Here's a scenario where we need to trade back immediately

Cleveland- Jake Locker
St. Louis- Ndamakong Suh
Tampa Bay- Gerald McCoy
Detroit- Russell Okung
Oakland-Jimmy Clausen
Washington (Please don't draft Eric Berry)

We are ahead of Oaklad as of this Sunday. So we would pick before Oakland if the season ended today. We also play Oakland this year so we will see.

McCoy, Clausen draw Redskins' attention
Owner Daniel Snyder and Vinny Cerrato, Washington's executive vice president of football operations, recently attended a University of Texas game to scout quarterback Colt McCoy, according to sources within the organization. Cerrato also made a trip to conduct an in-person evaluation of Notre Dame junior quarterback Jimmy Clausen, who this week declared for the draft.

The belief among some at Redskins Park is that Snyder and Cerrato plan to use the team's first draft pick this year in their quest to find the Redskins' next franchise quarterback, which could signal the end of Jason Campbell's tenure with the team. He will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season, which means the Redskins could match any offers he received.

"Whatever's out there I don't even listen to it," Campbell said. "If people try to talk to me about that stuff, I just tell them I don't want to hear it. I don't want to take anything like that with me into a game. I just want to finish this season on a strong note and let the offseason take care of itself. I just feel they'll be plenty of time in the offseason for that stuff to be worked out."

The Redskins would have to tender Campbell a contract to receive draft compensation if he signed elsewhere. Washington also could place the franchise or transition tags on Campbell instead of tendering him, but they are not expected to make either of those moves.

Campbell's minimum tender amount would be $3.14 million, according to a league source familiar with his contract situation. If the Redskins increased the offer to $3.268 million, they would first- and third-round compensation. Campbell has a salary of a little more than $2.857 million this season.

The good news for Campbell is that he is having the best season of his career as Washington's starter despite playing behind one of the league's worst offensive lines. The five-year veteran ranks 14th in the league with a personal-best 87.7 passer rating. He has the league's seventh-highest completion at 65.9 percent, is 15th in yards at 2,724 and has a career-high 15 touchdown passes.

Campbell has a high interception total of 12, which is tied for fifth in the league. But given the pressure he has faced this season (only three quarterbacks have been sacked more than Campbell), that number isn't so surprising. And under the circumstances, Campbell, who was benched after halftime in the Week 6 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs, has been among the main reasons the Redskins (3-9) have had any success this season.

"Jason is a starter in this league," offensive coordinator Sherman Smith said. "He makes all the throws, he makes plays and he's a big reason for the success we've hard. We rely on Jason."

In the offseason, Snyder and Cerrato attempted to acquire quarterback Jay Cutler, who was traded from the Denver Broncos to the Chicago Bears. Cutler is tied for the league lead with 20 interceptions and has a 75.3 passer rating. Snyder and Cerrato also considered trading for Mark Sanchez, who was drafted by the New York Jets. Sanchez is fourth with 17 interceptions and has a 63.7 rating.

"I'm not about looking in the past," Campbell said. "I know what I can do, I think there are people in this league who see some of the things I've done, and I just want to try to win as many games as we can with what we have left. Then when the offseason comes, everything will take care of itself."

fredp45 wrote:Our draft needs to be big guys for our offense -- for sure.

OT in the 1st (starter year 1)
OG in the 2nd (starter year 1)
FS in the 4th (backup)
Center in the 5th (backup for one year)
OL in the 6th
PR in the 7th

Trade ey for an additional 2nd rounder and draft a CB (nickel back).
Trade Horton for a 4th rounder and draft a LB (special teams)

Sign a strong-side LB (mid-20's) in FA (starter).
Sign a young free safety (mid-20's) in FA (starter). We need two FS's as LL needs to be our starting SS.

Stick with Campbell, Portis, Ganther, Betts, in the backfield.

I'M SORRY -- FIRE VINNIE!!!