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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:32 pm
by redskincity
Countertrey wrote:redskincity wrote:The slip screen is nice but our line sux real bad... Can they even sell an effective screen... We will see.
Actually, it's easier to sell a screen with a marginal O-line. Think about it... your goal is to convince the pass rushers that they have beaten the blocking, and have the qb on the run. If you have a poor line, it's certainly more believable than if your line is know to be solid as a rock. You only need 2 seconds of release and additional penetration by 2 or more linemen to make it work, as your blockers form in front of the intended receiver. Hopefully, they now have a free shot at the linebackers.
Much depends also on the aggressiveness of the D line in pursuit, as well... a very aggressive pass rush can fall victim to a screen more easily than one that focuses on containment. I don't think Philly has been that aggressive this year... otoh, the game film they are working from won't show much "screen pass"...
LOL never thought of it from that POV... Good Stuff..
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:37 pm
by TincoSkin
redskincity wrote:Countertrey wrote:redskincity wrote:The slip screen is nice but our line sux real bad... Can they even sell an effective screen... We will see.
Actually, it's easier to sell a screen with a marginal O-line. Think about it... your goal is to convince the pass rushers that they have beaten the blocking, and have the qb on the run. If you have a poor line, it's certainly more believable than if your line is know to be solid as a rock. You only need 2 seconds of release and additional penetration by 2 or more linemen to make it work, as your blockers form in front of the intended receiver. Hopefully, they now have a free shot at the linebackers.
Much depends also on the aggressiveness of the D line in pursuit, as well... a very aggressive pass rush can fall victim to a screen more easily than one that focuses on containment. I don't think Philly has been that aggressive this year... otoh, the game film they are working from won't show much "screen pass"...
LOL never thought of it from that POV... Good Stuff..
believable yes. done correctly? that is a sight to be seen... a bad O line could definatly sell that they got beat, our guys do it every week!! but accomplishing a screen??? ill believe it when i see it.
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:31 pm
by Californiaskin
SkinsJock wrote:I have wondered about the reasoning for taking Portis out so often on 3rd downs:
Portis is the best back we have at pass blocking - actually he's the ONLY back we have that can pass block
Portis has shown to be very good at catching the ball out of the backfield - actually he's the best RB we have for catching passes
what's wrong with keeping Portis in the backfield more often on 3rd downs?

i agree.....we suck at third down......why take our best player off the field (especially at blocking which clinton has a passion for)....at the very least hed be a good decoy