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jdubya wrote:

Wahoo McDaniels wrote:

jdubya wrote:haynesworth plays 50% of the game. not even worth talking about.

biiiiiiiiiiiiig waste of $$.

You're nuts. The guy played 90% of the snaps and blew up his man on every play. Look at the pass rush this year compared to last year. Andre Carter couldn't get close to the QB last year. This year, he looks like Dwight Freeney...and it's not because he got any better. I'll give you one hint...the guy wears number 92 and he's 3 times bigger than anybody else on the defense.

dude are you kidding? for the first time in 6 weeks he played more than 50% of the snaps. he has made a few plays, sure. but worth 100 mil? you are out of your head.

go on and pretend that THE DANNY improved this team by bringing him on.

go ahead.

really.

please.

eat a reality pill. or take some oxygen, ala fat albert.

Your anger is aimed towards the wrong person.

What do you want a Defensive tackle to do? Score tds? Yeah it may happen once in a hundred games?

Haynesworth is paid to clog holes and induce double teams. That is what he does. He collapses the QB pocket.

It seems to me you expect the guy to jump over the center while simultaneously intercepting the pass on the way to a ninety yard touchdown.

Get real. A Dts job is to fill the gap, collapse the pocket and cause dissruption in the backfield. Haynesworth does that.

Sure 100 Million dollars is a whole lot to pay a DT. Is that Alberts fault? Of course not. Any man in his right mind would jump on that kind of opportunity.


It is not Albert Haynesworths job to manage the cap or control what size contracts Danny and Vinny should be giving out.

Heard in the stands yesterday:

"Look! Albert's down again. Send in oxygen and bacon!"

I mean, he probably expends more energy running on and off the field every other play than if he had just stayed out there and played another play.

RedskinsFreak wrote:Heard in the stands yesterday:

"Look! Albert's down again. Send in oxygen and bacon!"

I mean, he probably expends more energy running on and off the field every other play than if he had just stayed out there and played another play.

Right...jogging to the sidelines = Moving 600 lbs

Haynesworth is a force on the D-line but we need to face reality. Snyder as usual spends way too much $$ for players that are either out of their prime or really just not what the team needs. 100 mil for 1 D-linemen or use that 100 mil to sure up the O-line and get a few solid D-linemen??? I don't think the choice is that hard if you take off the Danny colored shades.

*sigh...

Both of those players are just fine IMHO. It's hard to be an attacking and disruptive defense when you have a ball & chain (offense) hooked to you.

How much can they gamble when you're protecting 6 points?

- Hall is a bit of a let down but catches anything thrown his way. But he's nowhere near as bad as many make him out to be.

- Haynesworth is a beast.


It seems like many of your overburden the defense because of the lack of offensive production...

Haynesworth had a good game yesterday but I honestly laugh everytime I see him flopping around on the ground after a play. I think he should hire his own med vac crew. Like those guys in Euro League Soccer. They run out with the gurney and then take him off the field. He can catch his breath and then come back on and blow another play up. It's just funny but a hell of a game.

Wahoo McDaniels wrote:(2) The choice was never sign Haynesworth or sign an Offensive Line. Name me five O-Linemen of any worth that were moved in the off season (outside of Dockery since he came to the Skins). I can only think of Matt Birk, Jordan Gross, Stacy Andrews and Jason Smith. You built O Lines through the draft...something we have neglected for years.

The selection was even more limited than that. Jordon Gross didn't move teams; he was franchised and resigned with his own team. Jason Smith was a draft pick (first overall).

Perhaps the only guy worthwhile was Stacy Andrews, but for an OT who has been mediocre his entire career, he still got a 6 year, $39 million contract.

frankcal20 wrote:Haynesworth had a good game yesterday but I honestly laugh everytime I see him flopping around on the ground after a play. I think he should hire his own med vac crew. Like those guys in Euro League Soccer. They run out with the gurney and then take him off the field. He can catch his breath and then come back on and blow another play up. It's just funny but a hell of a game.

I love soccer, but what's even more amusing isn't the gurney. It's when a guy is on the ground, rolling around in agony clutching his ankle, and the medicos run out with their bottle of "magic spray." They spray the ankle, and all of a sudden, the guy is fine.

The magic spray is water, btw...

I wonder how long he can keep playing like that, blowing things up, going all out. THen sitting at the sidelines watching the O give the ball right back. Or get a 3 and long only to have the "star" DB acquisition get beat by a QB for a first down. I wonder how long until he starts getting complacent and doing just "enough" to get by.

VetSkinsFan wrote:

DEHog wrote:Just got in from the game...Haynesworth ran or should I say sprinted into the locker room with 25 seconds left...I remember how they wrecked Randy Moss for doing the same thing is anybody talking about that???

I don't care about who runs in to the locker room.

Exactly

RedskinsFreak wrote:Heard in the stands yesterday:

"Look! Albert's down again. Send in oxygen and bacon!"

I mean, he probably expends more energy running on and off the field every other play than if he had just stayed out there and played another play.

To me it is sad of the personal insults giving to some of the players who are actually giving effort and are playing well. Would you blame him for taking $100 million? Thats the contract offered. Blame management for paying him that if anyone. All he can do is come in here and play and he's played at a pro bowl level thus far in my opinion. He was a beast out there yesterday.

He's 350 pounds. I don't know any defensive lineman in the history of the NFL that has been around that weight and not been out of shape. By any player being 300 pounds your simply overweight anyhow, have you ever seen a 300 pounder in the triathalon?....players at that size need to go out certain plays. Shaun Rogers does it, I remember ole Gilbert Brown did it, Pat Williams, the list goes on and on.

mastdark81 wrote:

RedskinsFreak wrote:Heard in the stands yesterday:

"Look! Albert's down again. Send in oxygen and bacon!"

I mean, he probably expends more energy running on and off the field every other play than if he had just stayed out there and played another play.

To me it is sad of the personal insults giving to some of the players who are actually giving effort and are playing well. Would you blame him for taking $100 million? Thats the contract offered. Blame management for paying him that if anyone. All he can do is come in here and play and he's played at a pro bowl level thus far in my opinion. He was a beast out there yesterday.

He's 350 pounds. I don't know any defensive lineman in the history of the NFL that has been around that weight and not been out of shape. By any player being 300 pounds your simply overweight anyhow, have you ever seen a 300 pounder in the triathalon?....players at that size need to go out certain plays. Shaun Rogers does it, I remember ole Gilbert Brown did it, Pat Williams, the list goes on and on.

You should...well maybe you shouldn't have heard what the fans said to Zorn!!!

Considering Haynesworth is a $40 mil player (not a $100 mil player), I'd say that we are getting our money's worth out of him. The difference with our DL is like night / day.

Strange that he left the field early. I hate hearing all of the little things like that which are going on in this organization. How can you hold out hope for better things when even the little details aren't at all in sync?

There are other problems that deserve scrutiny.

I love soccer, but what's even more amusing isn't the gurney. It's when a guy is on the ground, rolling around in agony clutching his ankle, and the medicos run out with their bottle of "magic spray." They spray the ankle, and all of a sudden, the guy is fine.

The magic spray is water, btw...

My favorite is when a guy gets lightly kicked in his right ankle and then hits the ground rolling around in agony while grabbing his left leg.

Did you guys see Albert flop on the ground on the sideline yesterday. Looked like a beached whale.

not to mention that ey said this morning on EITM that Haynesworth ran off the field early because he was so emotional. He then went on to say that AH called EVERYONE out in the locker room and gave an emotional speech causing other players to become emotional. He said the jist of the speech was calling everyone to "MAN UP" and play their game

Call him what u want to but he is a beast player who looks to be becoming a defensive leader in the locker room too

I will say, if he told me to man up, I'd do it quickly.

JansenFan wrote:I will say, if he told me to man up, I'd do it quickly.

This is true

skins2357 wrote:not to mention that ey said this morning on EITM that Haynesworth ran off the field early because he was so emotional. He then went on to say that AH called EVERYONE out in the locker room and gave an emotional speech causing other players to become emotional. He said the jist of the speech was calling everyone to "MAN UP" and play their game

Call him what u want to but he is a beast player who looks to be becoming a defensive leader in the locker room too

He is one of the few players (Fletcher, ey, Doughty, Daniels, Carter) who has played well enough to back up a speech like that. Good to hear that he's taking a leadership role — honestly, if true, this is the best news I've heard in over a week!

JansenFan wrote:I will say, if he told me to man up, I'd do it quickly.

After changing my pee-soaked pants, I would too.

Irn-Bru wrote:

skins2357 wrote:not to mention that ey said this morning on EITM that Haynesworth ran off the field early because he was so emotional. He then went on to say that AH called EVERYONE out in the locker room and gave an emotional speech causing other players to become emotional. He said the jist of the speech was calling everyone to "MAN UP" and play their game

Call him what u want to but he is a beast player who looks to be becoming a defensive leader in the locker room too

He is one of the few players (Fletcher, ey, Doughty, Daniels, Carter) who has played well enough to back up a speech like that. Good to hear that he's taking a leadership role — honestly, if true, this is the best news I've heard in over a week!

Interesting b/c I ask my son (we saw a few player after the game) if Sellers looked like he'd been crying??

jdubya wrote:

Countertrey wrote:

Wahoo McDaniels wrote:

jdubya wrote:haynesworth plays 50% of the game. not even worth talking about.

biiiiiiiiiiiiig waste of $$.

You're nuts. The guy played 90% of the snaps and blew up his man on every play. Look at the pass rush this year compared to last year. Andre Carter couldn't get close to the QB last year. This year, he looks like Dwight Freeney...and it's not because he got any better. I'll give you one hint...the guy wears number 92 and he's 3 times bigger than anybody else on the defense.

staff.....

Fat Albert yesterday looked like the best defensive player in the NFL. If any player on defense is worth a 100 million, he looks like that guy.

ey did not specify the players who were crying but he said numerous players were getting emotional after fat ALs speech. Again I dont have a link but it was on the radio (Elliot in the Morning) who does a monday morning interview with ey every week.

He said AH was the one throwing stuff in the locker room and preceded to give an emotional speech about how everyone needs to man up.

Good to hear if you ask me....

We've got defensive leaders though. I want someone on offense to get pissed off and start chucking things and give an emotional speech. I feel like Sellers is the only guy that could do it, but I don't know if he would.

JansenFan wrote:We've got defensive leaders though. I want someone on offense to get pissed off and start chucking things and give an emotional speech. I feel like Sellers is the only guy that could do it, but I don't know if he would.

His position as that leader may have been compromised by some of the lackluster play on his part. But then again which offensive player can honestly say they've brought 100% each week? Maybe ey. It's hard to say.

someone said something about building through the draft to get O linemen a few pages back. yep, that is the truth.

But not in washington.

I would have taken a bunch of FAs to bolster the O line rather than pay haynesworth. All we do is sign FAs. When was the last quality O line draft pick? Samuels? 10 years ago?

You spend money on your problem areas. The FIRST thing that should have been addressed through FA was the offensive line.

I hope AH plays all 16 (though doubtful) and I hope he is a great redskin for years to come. But I am not sold after him causing some serious disruption to teams that were a combined 0-fer when they played us.

I might lean more his way if he tears it up against the Eagles. BUt I doubt it.