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Skinsfan55 wrote:The only problem I have is his size, is he good enough to beat LT's?

Anyway, Todd McShay says he's a good bet to have double digit sacks this season, but even if he doesn't succeed right away I don't think the team is gonna make the playoffs next season, maybe year after next when we get hold of a QB.

Yeah he is small but he is really strong. I think he will do great as a DE. I'm happy with this pick.

Skinsfan55 wrote:

ChocolateMilk wrote:

broomboy wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:lol, come down off the post draft high already. We still have a LOT of work to do. We desperately need another LB. We are in pretty serious need of a OT, we could also use help at S, CB, QB, RB, G, C, etc.

Wat a party pooper

yeah for real man.. its like he wants every player to be a Pro Bowler ha.

I want depth at every position and for all the starters to be at least league average. OT, SLB, SS and possibly RG are not league average and we have NO depth at CB, RB or C.

Your right but we are on the right track!!!!

awesome pick, i LOVE it... i am a HUGE Longhorns fan... i was getting updates via ESPN mobile today, and updated just after Denvers pick, and i saw they didn't take Orakpo... no lie, less than 10 seconds later my brother was calling, and telling me who the Skins drafted, i was cheering, great pick in my opinion...his nickname at UT was Brian O"sack"po... so, let's keep that tradition going here...

Wow, that really worked out well. We got the best 4-3 DE at pick 13. Can't beat that. Thank you to the raiders for making the niners take crabtree. Thank you to the bills for taking the 3-4 DE. And thank you Denver for finally addressing your running game. Worked out well for us. There were only 6 or 7 elite talents in this draft, and we got one at 13

NIce pick. Just spent a couple hours earlier watching some YouTube highlights of this young man, and I hope we can get him signed right away.
Given the size of the O- linemen playing for TTiT, we've got plenty of work to do before his first game.
Again, nice pick. We'll add depth at the other positions as we go along. This is like that one nice piece of a puzzle that makes you want to put it together faster to see it done.

Oh yeah!

Wanna GET HYPED.......?? here are a few clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGUc3UL6 ... 12&index=7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R1RNlZL ... 2&index=10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTelDHw ... xt_from=PL

Skinsfan55 wrote:

ChocolateMilk wrote:

broomboy wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:lol, come down off the post draft high already. We still have a LOT of work to do. We desperately need another LB. We are in pretty serious need of a OT, we could also use help at S, CB, QB, RB, G, C, etc.

Wat a party pooper

yeah for real man.. its like he wants every player to be a Pro Bowler ha.

I want depth at every position and for all the starters to be at least league average. OT, SLB, SS and possibly RG are not league average and we have NO depth at CB, RB or C.

You're right, we have no "depth" at RB, SS or OL.
And if we'd picked Oher or another position, you'd be screaming we still have a huge hole at DE.

You don't know me and you're not qualified to guess what I would have done if the draft went differently.

Try to debate me on facts:

-Chris Samuels is great but we don't have a starter at RT thus not league average.

-We have Robert Thomas and H.B. Blades as our only SLB's. No depth and no league average starter.

-We have Chris Horton and Reed Doughty as strong safeties. Neither is league average.

-Randy Thomas is great when healthy but he's hurt. There's little depth behind him. Rinehart is a good prospect but has shown nothing and has not even gotten into a game.

At CB we have Hall and Rogers who are great corners, but Smoot is the only one behind them and his skills are eroding. NO DEPTH.

Portis is great but Betts is too similar a runner, and he's not capable of carrying the workload as he showed last season. Who's behind them? Rock Cartwright? We had to use Shaun Alexander last season, obviously a lack of depth.

At center Casey Rabach is a good player but we have no backup for him on the roster.

What did I say that was untrue?

Skinsfan55 wrote:You don't know me and you're not qualified to guess what I would have done if the draft went differently.

Try to debate me on facts:

-Chris Samuels is great but we don't have a starter at RT thus not league average.

-We have Robert Thomas and H.B. Blades as our only SLB's. No depth and no league average starter.

-We have Chris Horton and Reed Doughty as strong safeties. Neither is league average.

-Randy Thomas is great when healthy but he's hurt. There's little depth behind him. Rinehart is a good prospect but has shown nothing and has not even gotten into a game.

At CB we have Hall and Rogers who are great corners, but Smoot is the only one behind them and his skills are eroding. NO DEPTH.

Portis is great but Betts is too similar a runner, and he's not capable of carrying the workload as he showed last season. Who's behind them? Rock Cartwright? We had to use Shaun Alexander last season, obviously a lack of depth.

At center Casey Rabach is a good player but we have no backup for him on the roster.

What did I say that was untrue?

If you want to rebut my comments, try comprehending them first. I put DEPTH in quotes and specically mentioned RB, SS and OL DEPTH. Have you looked at our roster recently? I guess you expect a Pro Bowler at every position of DEPTH.

Edit: By the way, I'm not going to waste my time breaking down the roster for you.

tribeofjudah wrote:Wanna GET HYPED.......?? here are a few clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGUc3UL6 ... 12&index=7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R1RNlZL ... 2&index=10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTelDHw ... xt_from=PL

thanks you took the work right out of my you tube search, great pick huh,
from I seen at redskins.com orakpo is pretty strong and seems overpowering, fast too. ... the young mans relentless....
Hail skins,
In the artical on skins.com . it states Orakpo should get lots of playing time rookie season. I think he is a good pick

SkinsFreak wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:You don't know me and you're not qualified to guess what I would have done if the draft went differently.

Try to debate me on facts:

-Chris Samuels is great but we don't have a starter at RT thus not league average.

-We have Robert Thomas and H.B. Blades as our only SLB's. No depth and no league average starter.

-We have Chris Horton and Reed Doughty as strong safeties. Neither is league average.

-Randy Thomas is great when healthy but he's hurt. There's little depth behind him. Rinehart is a good prospect but has shown nothing and has not even gotten into a game.

At CB we have Hall and Rogers who are great corners, but Smoot is the only one behind them and his skills are eroding. NO DEPTH.

Portis is great but Betts is too similar a runner, and he's not capable of carrying the workload as he showed last season. Who's behind them? Rock Cartwright? We had to use Shaun Alexander last season, obviously a lack of depth.

At center Casey Rabach is a good player but we have no backup for him on the roster.

What did I say that was untrue?

If you want to rebut my comments, try comprehending them first. I put DEPTH in quotes and specically mentioned RB, SS and OL DEPTH. Have you looked at our roster recently? I guess you expect a Pro Bowler at every position of DEPTH.

Edit: By the way, I'm not going to waste my time breaking down the roster for you.

You both invest way too much anger in this forum. CHILL OUT YOURE BOTH COMPLETELY WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU SAY. (Im only kidding, but seriously guys, youre both completely wrong)

the skins are solid man, definate to win the East, now

Can Orakpo tackle Brandon Jacobs?

I don't know if anyone has said this yet? Doesn't Orakpo kind of remind you of Dexter Manley? They are kind of the same build. Orakpo is a bit bigger. But they sort of had the same build, playing style. Of course Orakpo has some ways to go as far as NFL accolades are concerned. But, we will see. I am happy with the pick for sure.

Someone on th NFLN made the comment that he's going to be RDE...which doesn't make sense. he's at 265 now, which isn't small. If he bulked up a little and doesn't lose any explosiveness, we'll be good to go.

Skinsfan55 wrote:-We have Chris Horton and Reed Doughty as strong safeties. Neither is league average.

Wow. Horton played great for a rookie safety, and you're ready to say that even after his impactful last year, and the growth he'll have before his 2nd season...he's not "league average" ?

You're saying he is? I find that equally astounding.

I think Horton played his TAIL OFF! He got caught on a few plays with his pants down true... but he also made some spectacular plays and with some coaching could be a damn solid player... I don't get you eternal pessimists.

Skinsfan55 wrote:You're saying he is? I find that equally astounding.

Horton had a great year. He could start on most any team in the league. He is not average at all.

He can cover. Can tackle really well. He has great instincts. He can hold on to the interception. Nothing average about that. Once his contract is up teams will be lining up to pay him a nice contract.

We're straying from Orakpo.

Who?

I really don't like all this LB talk around Orakpo. I don't like this whole hybrid thing. Maybe it will work but it seems like letting a guy play ONE position and learn that until it's down pat makes sense. Everything I've read says Orakpo can't cover and isn't fluid enough to keep up with receivers.

What he can do is finesse OR power over linemen and pound QB's into the turf.

Skinsfan55 wrote:I really don't like all this LB talk around Orakpo. I don't like this whole hybrid thing. Maybe it will work but it seems like letting a guy play ONE position and learn that until it's down pat makes sense. Everything I've read says Orakpo can't cover and isn't fluid enough to keep up with receivers.

What he can do is finesse OR power over linemen and pound QB's into the turf.

He's a bit large to be playing cover LB. We don't play 3-4, so I see him as a our DE heir apparent to Daniels. He can bulk up and get to 275 and not lose too much. 275 is enough mass for the elite to succeed on the strong side on. Is Orakpo elite? Strahan did it even lighter than that.

He's known for being a workout warrior, so it's not unrealistic to expect him to be able to gain a lot of weight. I personally can't wait to see this guy in action. I want him to absolutely streamroll Tony Romo next season.