Two Players Reportedly on Missing Boat

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:36 am

I'd like to think if it were me and 3 of my buddies we wouldn't have let each other float off, grab a rope tie it around each other , if I've got enough strength to hold on to a boat motor I can clinch a guy, tragic for sure but it is a lone survivor story so who knows what really happened.

MDSKINSFAN · Post by **MDSKINSFAN** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:31 am

I just dont know why they would take off their life jackets so soon.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:46 pm

MDSKINSFAN wrote:I just dont know why they would take off their life jackets so soon.

Under those circumstances, minutes seem like days. It is not difficult to lose hope while beaten up, suffering exposure and fearing a shark attack. Even thirst is a factor.

Those who havenot been exposed to deep suffering and hopelessness may find it difficult to understand the dilemma. It is A LOT more compicated than it sound from the comfort of your Chair right now.

I am not expressing an opinion one way or another. I am only pointing out that it is NOT easy under this situation to make a judgment call.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:58 pm

Deadskins wrote:
REPORT: THE THREE MISSING BOATERS TOOK OFF THEIR LIFE VESTS
Posted by Mike Florio on March 4, 2009, 1:28 p.m. EST

Rarely if ever do I struggle to start writing one of these items. But I’ve spent the past several minutes at a complete loss for words.

Apparently, Nick Schuyler has informed authorities that each of the other three men who were on the 21-foot fishing boat that capsized off the Gulf Coast of Florida voluntarily removed their life jackets.

Within two to four hours after the boat flipped, one of the two NFL players, Marquis Cooper of the Raiders and Corey Smith of the Lions, removed his life jacket and allowed himself to drift out to sea.

Then, a few hours later, the other NFL player did the same.

Finally, on Monday morning, Bleakley thought he saw a light in the distance. So he removed his life jacket and swam to it in an effort to get help.

“I think he was delusional to think he could swim someplace,” Bob Bleakley said.

This news makes the tragedy even more horrific. If they only had stayed together on the hull of the boat, they all would have been saved.

But the psychological burdens of such circumstances are surely very heavy, and reality likely becomes twisted and distorted very quickly.

So, again, pray for the families of the men who were lost. But also pray for Nick Schuyler, who will carry the guilt that goes along with being the only survivor of the tragedy, and that goes along with the fact he wasn’t able to convince three of his friends to refuse to surrender.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/ ... ife-vests/

That is really tragic. How sad.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:41 pm

Under those circumstances, minutes seem like days. It is not difficult to lose hope while beaten up, suffering exposure and fearing a shark attack. Even thirst is a factor.

That does note even mention that the onset of hypothermia induced delirium makes problem solving and use of sound judgement nearly impossible. It's like tying to make life and death decisions while sleeping... the brain may be working, but not as advertised.

Those who havenot been exposed to deep suffering and hopelessness may find it difficult to understand the dilemma. It is A LOT more compicated than it sound from the comfort of your Chair right now.

Thank you. Those who make harsh judgements and negative insinuations about the survivor just prove the point that there is no replacement for knowledge. 60 degree water changes everything.

Gibbs4Life · Post by **Gibbs4Life** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:15 am

Respect the Ocean. We know more about Outer Space than the depths of the ocean.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:55 am

Well, we know it's wet and deep...and utterly impossible to search in its entirety. This is not the first or last time you'll hear of an irrational decision made under extreme duress.
My heart goes out to the families.

Cooter · Post by **Cooter** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 7:06 am

Investigation concludes improper anchoring caused fatal boat accident

Associated Press

TAMPA, Fla. -- An agency investigating a deadly boating accident involving two NFL players and their two friends in the Gulf of Mexico has concluded that it was caused when the vessel was improperly anchored and the boat capsized after one of them tried to throttle forward to pry loose the anchor.

MDSKINSFAN · Post by **MDSKINSFAN** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:16 am

Cooter wrote:Investigation concludes improper anchoring caused fatal boat accident

Associated Press

TAMPA, Fla. -- An agency investigating a deadly boating accident involving two NFL players and their two friends in the Gulf of Mexico has concluded that it was caused when the vessel was improperly anchored and the boat capsized after one of them tried to throttle forward to pry loose the anchor.

I don't think these boaters were as experienced as everyone said they were. If I ever get an anchor stuck I either try as hard as I can by myself to get it up (which I'm sure they did), and if that fails I throttle backwards just a little. and that is on calm waters.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:54 am

See, I'm not even an avid boater and I know that that approach would never occur to me. Let's see...I have this chain. One end is hooked to my bumper, the other is snagged on a tree root. Maybe I should go forward, really fast, to try and unsnag my car??
Ummm....no.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:43 pm

tcwest10 wrote:See, I'm not even an avid boater and I know that that approach would never occur to me. Let's see...I have this chain. One end is hooked to my bumper, the other is snagged on a tree root. Maybe I should go forward, really fast, to try and unsnag my car??
Ummm....no.

Maybe if it was your front bumper. :idea:

Most anchors would only embed themselves deeper in reverse.
Their mistake was to anchor at all. You need to be able to ride the swells.