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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:36 am
by Deadskins
Countertrey wrote:Deadskins wrote:Yawn
Who is doing more race baiting here, Al Sharpton, or those "news" organizations that run to him for comment every time some story, even remotely involving race, arises?
Fine. You're OK with the status quo. I'm not.
Clearly, the press and Sharpton need each other. Who is the one person best positioned to do something about it? But, never mind... you're just fine with the way things are.
If the topic bores you... why comment?
Obviously, I'm not fine with the status quo. (I'm not sure how you even got that out of my post). And what bores me is the debate about what Al Sharpton does or does not think about race issues. Do you really believe he is a spokesman for the average person of color?
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:18 pm
by tcwest10
I'm not sure what "the average person of color" believes, if there is any such demographic, but I know what I believe. I'm certain that Al Sharpton has no business speaking for anyone. His credibility was shot years ago. He, too, is living off a dubious moment. He was stabbed in a crowd some years ago, and led a media horde to the prison where his attacker was being held for a very well-publicized "forgiveness".
The man has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:15 pm
by langleyparkjoe
tcwest10 wrote:I'm not sure what "the average person of color" believes, if there is any such demographic, but I know what I believe. I'm certain that Al Sharpton has no business speaking for anyone. His credibility was shot years ago. He, too, is living off a dubious moment. He was stabbed in a crowd some years ago, and led a media horde to the prison where his attacker was being held for a very well-publicized "forgiveness".
The man has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
not like i'm a huge fan of the man but i loved his stance he took against R kelly.. i was just angry it took him all that time to step up when we in the "minority" class always knew r kelly was a fraud and a very nasty old man... but anyways, continue.. LOL
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:18 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
tcwest10 wrote:I wish I were sophisicated enough read between the lines in this cartoon so that I, too, could share in this heated debate.
With my very average IQ and complete lack of saavy in all things racial/political, all I could see was, "Hey, this cartoonist thinks the stimulus bill was so clumsy and hasty, a chimp could've done it."
Well, that's exactly what the cartoon meant, so you're not as lacking of savvy as your giving yourself credit for being. Par for the course for the Left, here's a chance to tout our credentials as not being racist by having selected a candidate because he's black and having endless education and welfare policies that keep blacks from getting ahead (and voting for us). It's a lot more substantiative to jump on a cartoon and misstate it's meaning and foam at the mouth then it is to have open policies where blacks succeed on their own and don't rely on Democrats for handouts.
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:22 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
Deadskins wrote:Yawn
Who is doing more race baiting here, Al Sharpton, or those "news" organizations that run to him for comment every time some story, even remotely involving race, arises?
I can hear the banjos now, "Dueling Race Bating" between the NAALCP and the Liberal Elitist media.
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:40 am
by tcwest10
langleyparkjoe wrote:not like i'm a huge fan of the man but i loved his stance he took against R kelly.. i was just angry it took him all that time to step up when we in the "minority" class always knew r kelly was a fraud and a very nasty old man... but anyways, continue.. LOL
Let's just insert the "broken clock" analogy here. I'm not going to say that Al Sharpton is never right about anything, because I think it's impossible to be wrong 100% of the time.
What I will say is, he selects certain events (some that are even harmless, innocuous and instantly forgettable) whenever he feels that he's being forgotten or left out and explodes them into a racially charged rally. There's no question that the man is a very charismatic speaker. People are naturally drawn to those that call attention to themselves. He frequently references the "Million Man March". (Did anybody ever bother to do an actual headcount there? : ) ) Even though that was Farrakhan' deal, Al loves to say that he was somehow a lightning rod for it.
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:54 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
tcwest10 wrote:There's no question that the man is a very charismatic speaker. People are naturally drawn to those that call attention to themselves. He frequently references the "Million Man March". (Did anybody ever bother to do an actual headcount there? : ) )
I'm not sure of the exact number, but the National Park Service estimated there were under half that. Of course it was met with charges of racism and threats to sue by the march organizers.
It's hard to respect Sharpton with the damage he's done to race relations in this country and his willingness to sacrifice truth and the innocent to his agenda, but I agree he's very charismatic. He can also be very engaging and have a very good sense of humor in interviews. I just wish he would use his ability to have a more positive effect on the country and encourage blacks to succeed on their own like Malcolm X later in his career rather then grasp and hold onto entitlements and the slavery of the liberal elitists interested in expanding their own power.
I've traveled most of my career and two people I've seen in airports are Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Jackson was surrounded by a very intimidating looking entourage. Sharpton was walking alone around O'Hare airport. He walked right by me. I was sitting, but he looked like he was about 4 1/2 feet tall. He was barely taller then me when I was sitting down. He wasn't in a particular hurry, he seemed very approachable. Though I didn't talk to him just because I figure it's probably endless for them that people do that.
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:13 am
by tcwest10
I met both of them while working the pile in Manhattan in 2001. Jesse Jackson thanked me for my service, which was minimal. Al Sharpton wanted to know if I'd seen the Mayor around. I told him that I'd seen him over on Vecsey with Hillary Clinton. What I recall most about the whole encounter was that Jesse shook my hand good and tight, like a man ought to, while the Reverend Al grasped my fingers and let go immediately.
You can tell a lot about a man from his handshake, I think. I also remember his fussiness over the white/gray mud on his shoes, and holding a hanky over his mouth and nose.
My bias comes through, doesn't it? I'm not ashamed. I didn't mention anything about why I disagreed with most of his positions at that time, as we had other things to worry about, if you know what I mean...but I later regretted not having something more memorable to say to him when I had my chance.
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:30 am
by Cappster
http://www.popeater.com/movies/article/ ... ges/383621
Jackie Mason Dig Draws Racism Charges
Legendary comedian Jackie Mason is in full defense mode for using what many consider to be a Yiddish racial slur to describe President Barack Obama. The 'Caddyshack 2' star referred to Obama as a "schwartza" during a March 12 performance in NYC. Mason told TMZ that he was raised in a "Jewish family where 'schwartza' was used," he said. "It's not a demeaning word."
Legendary comedian Jackie Mason is in full defense mode for using what many consider to be the Yiddish N-word to describe President Barack Obama. The 'Caddyshack 2' star referred to Obama as a "schwartza" during a March 12 performance in NYC. Mason told TMZ that he was raised in a "Jewish family where 'schwartza' was used," he said. "It's not a demeaning word."
The 'Caddyshack 2' star referred to Obama as a "schwartza" during a performance in New York City on Thursday night, TMZ reports, infuriating several audience members and causing at least one paying customer to storm out.
Mason denies the word is a racial epithet, angrily telling TMZ that it's just slang for black person. "I'm an old Jew. I was raised in a Jewish family where 'schwartza' was used," he said. "It's not a demeaning word and I'm not going to defend myself."
Schwartz literally means "black" in Yiddish. According to the Racial Slur Database, the word itself is not derogatory in nature, but that it is usually used in a negative way.
Though he said he wouldn't "defend himself," Mason continued to do so in his conversation with TMZ, slamming fellow controversial figures like comedian Chris Rock and Rev. Al Sharpton in the process.
"Chris Rock has told a lot more jokes about whites than I have against Blacks. What about the demeaning words Blacks say about Jews?"
Mason then alleged that white people are more persecuted when it comes to civil rights. "If it's a racist society, the white people are the ones being persecuted because they have to defend themselves." He then referred to Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson as "professional racists."
Sharpton quickly struck back, sending the following statement to TMZ:
"At this stage in Jackie's life and career he should get our prayers more than our responses. It is sad that maybe he forgot he used the same term against Mayor David Dinkins when he was elected the first African-American Mayor of New York City and got in trouble for it. As for him attacking me, maybe he forgot that he has had me on his TV show and has taken me to dinner and commended me for forgiving a white male who tried to kill me by stabbing me while I was leading a non-violent march. I'm sure Jackie just forgot."
TMZ caught up with Mason again over the weekend when he continued his no-defense defense strategy, saying he believes "white people have no freedom of speech."