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With apolgies to RiC, who I have inadvertently plagiarized with my Cardinals' coach-turned-pumpkin line when I submitted my winning picks and most accurate point total a few minutes ago.

Slightly better-than-average minds DO think alike, my friend.
Those 9 points would be a killer if you were matched against me, however.

BigRedskinDaddy wrote:With apolgies to RiC, who I have inadvertently plagiarized with my Cardinals' coach-turned-pumpkin line when I submitted my winning picks and most accurate point total a few minutes ago.

Slightly better-than-average minds DO think alike, my friend.
Those 9 points would be a killer if you were matched against me, however.

Why give up points at all? Do you not understand the whole over-under/home field advantage thing?

Apologies, CT. I just had to ask.

JSPB22 wrote:Why give up points at all? Do you not understand the whole over-under/home field advantage thing?

Apologies, CT. I just had to ask.

It is what it is though. If he feels that 155 is CLOSER to the final total score, he is perfectly entitled to Hognosticate so. I obviously think that those nine points between him and I are HUGE (38.75 points per game average as opposed to 40 in CT's case and 41 in my case) . But five points between him and CT are not that bad. He is going against the experienced CT as a tough rookie. I am going as a cursed Hognosticator against the 2008 Hognostications Champion.

Will Jokko have the nuts to pick an upset? I did not.

I really enjoy the Hognostications and the playoffs. At least until the end of this week ...

JSPB22 wrote:Why give up points at all? Do you not understand the whole over-under/home field advantage thing?

Apologies, CT. I just had to ask.

It doesn't seem like giving up points, Deadskins, particularly when I happen to think these games are going to be more low-scoring that most people think. Aren't we supposed to correctly pick as many winners as possible AND come closest to the actual point totals for the weekend?

That's all I'm trying to do, brother. If I made some major blunder by giving up points to trey particularly when I picked last, then remember I' a rookie Hognosticator, and will make mistakes from time to time.

Somebody out there enlighten me here. I'm obviously pulling a bonehead move, but for the life of me I can't see how. <sigh> Like my pappy always said, I'm what you call a size-50 coat, and a size-3 hat...

No matter the outcome, I just want to say one last time that I've had an absolute blast picking against you guys this year, and I look forward to the same next year. Thanks a million -

BRD

BigRedskinDaddy wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:Why give up points at all? Do you not understand the whole over-under/home field advantage thing?

Apologies, CT. I just had to ask.

It doesn't seem like giving up points, Deadskins, particularly when I happen to think these games are going to be more low-scoring that most people think. Aren't we supposed to correctly pick as many winners as possible AND come closest to the actual point totals for the weekend?

That's all I'm trying to do, brother. If I made some major blunder by giving up points to trey particularly when I picked last, then remember I' a rookie Hognosticator, and will make mistakes from time to time.

Somebody out there enlighten me here. I'm obviously pulling a bonehead move, but for the life of me I can't see how. <sigh> Like my pappy always said, I'm what you call a size-50 coat, and a size-3 hat...

No matter the outcome, I just want to say one last time that I've had an absolute blast picking against you guys this year, and I look forward to the same next year. Thanks a million -

BRD

Since you picked the games all the same it comes down to point totals in your case. Choosing a point total of 159 would have had the same affect as 155, but would also give you the win in the case of a 158 or 159 point total outcome. As it stands, CT wins in those cases. If SkinsJock* takes the "under" on RiC, he will choose 163, if the "over" it will be 165. No sense in giving any extra points away if you have HFA.

JSPB22 wrote:

BigRedskinDaddy wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:Why give up points at all? Do you not understand the whole over-under/home field advantage thing?

Apologies, CT. I just had to ask.

It doesn't seem like giving up points, Deadskins, particularly when I happen to think these games are going to be more low-scoring that most people think. Aren't we supposed to correctly pick as many winners as possible AND come closest to the actual point totals for the weekend?

That's all I'm trying to do, brother. If I made some major blunder by giving up points to trey particularly when I picked last, then remember I' a rookie Hognosticator, and will make mistakes from time to time.

Somebody out there enlighten me here. I'm obviously pulling a bonehead move, but for the life of me I can't see how. <sigh> Like my pappy always said, I'm what you call a size-50 coat, and a size-3 hat...

No matter the outcome, I just want to say one last time that I've had an absolute blast picking against you guys this year, and I look forward to the same next year. Thanks a million -

BRD

Since you picked the games all the same it comes down to point totals in your case. Choosing a point total of 159 would have had the same affect as 155, but would also give you the win in the case of a 158 or 159 point total outcome. As it stands, CT wins in those cases. If SkinsJock* takes the "under" on RiC, he will choose 163, if the "over" it will be 165. No sense in giving any extra points away if you have HFA.

In other words, the REAL onus in these situations lies on the shoulders of the first Hognosticator. The task of the first one is to come as close as possible to the REAL score. The job of the second one is to assess if the first one under- or over-estimated the total number of points.

I, for one, disagree that this weekend is going to be as short on points as both of you claim. I think that the Carolina-Arizona and Giants-Eagles games have real potential to compensate for the Tennessee-Baltimore and Pittsburgh-San Diego games. I do not disagree by much, just about 5 points in one case and 9 in the other.

Maybe I should not be making this statement yet but maybe I am doing it to psyche-out my opponent.

Correct. The result in the case of CT and BRD is that BRD very generously gave CT 2 extra points of breathing space. Thank you, sir.

It will be your undoing, rook.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:

BigRedskinDaddy wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:Why give up points at all? Do you not understand the whole over-under/home field advantage thing?

Apologies, CT. I just had to ask.

It doesn't seem like giving up points, Deadskins, particularly when I happen to think these games are going to be more low-scoring that most people think. Aren't we supposed to correctly pick as many winners as possible AND come closest to the actual point totals for the weekend?

That's all I'm trying to do, brother. If I made some major blunder by giving up points to trey particularly when I picked last, then remember I' a rookie Hognosticator, and will make mistakes from time to time.

Somebody out there enlighten me here. I'm obviously pulling a bonehead move, but for the life of me I can't see how. <sigh> Like my pappy always said, I'm what you call a size-50 coat, and a size-3 hat...

No matter the outcome, I just want to say one last time that I've had an absolute blast picking against you guys this year, and I look forward to the same next year. Thanks a million -

BRD

Since you picked the games all the same it comes down to point totals in your case. Choosing a point total of 159 would have had the same affect as 155, but would also give you the win in the case of a 158 or 159 point total outcome. As it stands, CT wins in those cases. If SkinsJock* takes the "under" on RiC, he will choose 163, if the "over" it will be 165. No sense in giving any extra points away if you have HFA.

In other words, the REAL onus in these situations lies on the shoulders of the first Hognosticator. The task of the first one is to come as close as possible to the REAL score. The job of the second one is to assess if the first one under- or over-estimated the total number of points.

Only if you agree on the outcome of the games. In the first round you chose a different outcome in the ATL-ARI match-up, so that made the point total irrelevant. This is why in the HognostiBowl the picks are blind.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Countertrey wrote:

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Countertrey wrote:I have an appointment with SkinsJock in 13 days...

Lunch?

Nah... I'm good.

It's not as though I've been endorsed by TRO...

I am really fricking DOOMED, Aren't I?

Wait a minute!!! Who wouldn't want the endorsement from last year's HB champ? What? Did I miss something?

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Who wouldn't want the endorsement from last year's HB champ? What? Did I miss something?

No, but I did. I never saw !niksder's post showing the point totals from last year's HB, and proclaiming you the champ. I've always assumed I lost, because I chose a PT so stupidly high, that even you should have beaten me. In fact, that's part of the reason I didn't show my face around here during the off-season. But since I came back, I've done several searches, just to see what you hognosticated as the PT, and always come up blank. Maybe 1nik deleted the thread to destroy the evidence.

JSPB22 wrote:Since you picked the games all the same it comes down to point totals in your case. Choosing a point total of 159 would have had the same affect as 155, but would also give you the win in the case of a 158 or 159 point total outcome. As it stands, CT wins in those cases. If SkinsJock* takes the "under" on RiC, he will choose 163, if the "over" it will be 165. No sense in giving any extra points away if you have HFA.

Ahh. You're right, of course. It makes perfect sense. I KNEW I should have paid more attention in those stupid HS math classes. Thanks for the clarification.

Be that as it may, I will stand by my total, even though it smacks somewhat of Austin Powers standing on 4 in International Man of Mystery.

Maybe picking point totals just isn't really my bag, baby.
-and that isn't my Swedish pump enlarger.

Honest.

Countertrey wrote:Correct. The result in the case of CT and BRD is that BRD very generously gave CT 2 extra points of breathing space. Thank you, sir.

It will be your undoing, rook.

You may well be right, brother. Such lessons are usually the only ones I learn from, coming as they do right out of the school of hard knocks.

Be advised, however: if such turns out to be the case, enjoy it while it lasts, for next year there will be no such grace period. Having fully learned the ropes, I intend to use them to hang the lot of ya.

I was going to take the easy route and take the under - despite what RiC stated (btw - RiC is a very clever hognosticator) - I believe these games will not all be high scoring due to the weather and the pressure.

I also believe the Hognistication Bowl Championship will be won by the HHC representative

SkinsJock (aka FijiHog) picks the winners of the divisional games.

Sat., Jan. 10

BAL@TEN = Ravens
ARI@CAR = Panthers

Sun., Jan. 11

PHI@NYG = giants - I have a feeling that this could go either way but I just cannot give the edge to the Eagles, despite their great defense these past few weeks.
SD@PIT = Steelers

I will add that my point total (which is now not needed) would be 163 - as indicated by JSPB and CT, I would not have given a skilled hognosticator like RiC the sort of break that BRD did

Let me add that like others I have really enjoyed the hognostication season and I look forward to repeating as champ again next year. I may be wrong about this but it did seem to me to be very close amongst the top 10-12 hognosticators all year long and while I know that my winning percentage was not as good as some recently I will say that the last month's games were very interesting as far as picking winners were concerned.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL - cheers, Jock O

SkinsJock wrote:... and while I know that my winning percentage was not as good as some recently I will say that the last month's games were very interesting as far as picking winners were concerned.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL - cheers, Jock O

Good luck man!

By the way, NOBODY can judge the percentages of one season to the next IMHO because every season presents different challenges.

Go Titans !!! (It is really to close to call ... )

I maintain that the total score will be 164 and over.

It has been a pleasure guys.

I was DOOMED but the turnovers did not help !!!

Congrats Jocko !

Redskin in Canada wrote:I was DOOMED but the turnovers did not help !!!

Congrats Jocko !

Yeah, TRO did you in. I know it's been said before, but it amazes me how much power we wield here at THN. I mean the Titans had every opportunity to win that game, but the TRO curse was just too powerful.

eagles to the bowl, you heard it here first

Going to the points....


And I need a lot of help.

stupid Panthers...

Well, 0-2 so far. So much for my mojo being back. So long as the games hold true to scoring form I might be okay, however.

69 and counting, trey...

BigRedskinDaddy wrote:Well, 0-2 so far. So much for my mojo being back. So long as the games hold true to scoring form I might be okay, however.

69 and counting, trey...

Yes. Going to be tight...

Shameful! Three of the four Hognosticators playing this weekend don't have a single victory to their credit. Oh how did I not make it this far? Damn you week 7!

JSPB22 wrote:Shameful! Three of the four Hognosticators playing this weekend don't have a single victory to their credit. Oh how did I not make it this far? Damn you week 7!

Trust me... Week 7 knew EXACTLY what it was doing.

Countertrey wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:Shameful! Three of the four Hognosticators playing this weekend don't have a single victory to their credit. Oh how did I not make it this far? Damn you week 7!

Trust me... Week 7 knew EXACTLY what it was doing.

I hate Limas Sweed.

And, I LOVE SPROULS!!!!!