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frankcal20 wrote:I think depending on his mindset, if he comes in here ready to play and understands that he is not the star of the team, this could be good. I'm hoping to see him latch on to London Fletcher to humble him a bit.

This could be a great move for us or a killer.


How in the world can this be a killer???????????

We payed 400 grand for the remainder of the season on a 1 year deal who will play for a big deal. He's not our number 1 DB and he is a hell of player.

It is a win win situation.


If he comes in the locker room with a "ME....ME" mentality then it could stir the pot a bit. I'm just saying that it depends on how he comes into the locker room. Here's the other thing, I would expect him to take the spot of Smoot at some point but that could be later. I wonder how he will deal with being a 3rd or even 4th guy on the depth chart. Just saying that this could be tough for us.

Another thing, who gets kicked off the team or do we see Kelly go to IR with this move.
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RedskinsFreak wrote:I'm not finding a single on-the-surface reason to like this move.

SI.com wrote:In his eight games in Oakland, Hall was beaten 40 times for 552 yards on 66 passes thrown his way, according to data compiled by STATS LLC. He gave up more yards than any defender this season and was tied for third worst in catches allowed.


So, he stinks in pass coverage and I think he's less of a person than he is a player.


He stunk in Oakland's defense, but he's a 24 year old, 2-time pro bowl cornerback...who is playing with us for 500k this year.

How the heck is this a bad move?
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Do we get a consultant's fee for helping with this hiring decision?
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If he comes in the locker room with a "ME....ME" mentality then it could stir the pot a bit.


Two words... London Fletcher.

Two more words... Gregg Blache.

He'll be a good fellow.
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Isn't Hall a pretty decent Return man, as well?
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HALL EYEBALLS LONG-TERM STAY WITH THE REDSKINS
Posted by Mike Florio on November 7, 2008, 3:19 p.m.

One major factor that drove the decision of cornerback DeAngelo Hall to sign with the Redskins is the possibility of doing a long-term deal in D.C.

“It’s a one-year deal for now, but we’ll work something out long-term,” Hall told Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com. “That’s why I chose them. I don’t want to hit the market in the offseason and have to move my family again this year.

Per a league source, the Redskins want Hall to prove that he can be an asset in the locker room, and that he can return to past form on the field. If/when that happens, they’ll lock him up for the long haul.

In the end, Hall picked the Redskins from a pool that included three other teams — the Patriots, Ravens, and Jets. The packages, we’re told, were roughly equivalent.

Presumably, Hall will be the long-term replacement for Shawn Springs, who might or might not have been seen cramming a couple of duffel bags into the trunk of his car on Friday.
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Countertrey wrote:
If he comes in the locker room with a "ME....ME" mentality then it could stir the pot a bit.


Two words... London Fletcher.

Two more words... Gregg Blache.

He'll be a good fellow.

And if he's not and acts like a jerk, then he'll be gone and will probably be signed by the Cowboys in the offseason...
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Countertrey wrote:
If he comes in the locker room with a "ME....ME" mentality then it could stir the pot a bit.


Two words... London Fletcher.

Two more words... Gregg Blache.

He'll be a good fellow.


3rd word...free agent at the end of the year
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As I said in the previous thread.

His signing is a wake-up call to Springs to restructure. If not, they'll give that money to Hall...possibly.
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It's a prorated one-year deal for a guy who is going to a veteran defense with a clear-cut leader. He's got two choices: be on his best behavior and hope that his performance nets him another large contract or sulk and blow his chance at big money. This costs the Redskins basically nothing, he's not going to disrupt a close-knit unit. The secondary is hurting and the team can't be certain how many games it can get out of Springs. Some people are going to tie this to the hyperbolic narrative of "Snyder always gets the big names" but this is a sensible, practical move.
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NJ-SKINS-FAN wrote:i like it, and he will be on his best behavior cause it is just for the rest of this year.....

he will come in here and look to prove he is still on top of his game and will look to score a big deal for 2009....

but the clause not to tag him, makes me wonder if he will be looking to scram the second the season is over.....worry about that later


I think any free agent in Hall's situation would be foolish not to insist on the no-tag clause. He wants to maximize his value and for that he needs to have teams competing for his services.


true, but what it also shows, that if he is not on his best behavior the skins can let him go without recourse...

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Fios wrote:It's a prorated one-year deal for a guy who is going to a veteran defense with a clear-cut leader. He's got two choices: be on his best behavior and hope that his performance nets him another large contract or sulk and blow his chance at big money. This costs the Redskins basically nothing, he's not going to disrupt a close-knit unit. The secondary is hurting and the team can't be certain how many games it can get out of Springs. Some people are going to tie this to the hyperbolic narrative of "Snyder always gets the big names" but this is a sensible, practical move.

Agreed.
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gibbs4president wrote:
Fios wrote:It's a prorated one-year deal for a guy who is going to a veteran defense with a clear-cut leader. He's got two choices: be on his best behavior and hope that his performance nets him another large contract or sulk and blow his chance at big money. This costs the Redskins basically nothing, he's not going to disrupt a close-knit unit. The secondary is hurting and the team can't be certain how many games it can get out of Springs. Some people are going to tie this to the hyperbolic narrative of "Snyder always gets the big names" but this is a sensible, practical move.

Agreed.


a danny move would be signing him today to a 5 year deal with a 25mil signing!
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frankcal20 wrote:
HALL EYEBALLS LONG-TERM STAY WITH THE REDSKINS
Posted by Mike Florio on November 7, 2008, 3:19 p.m.

One major factor that drove the decision of cornerback DeAngelo Hall to sign with the Redskins is the possibility of doing a long-term deal in D.C.

“It’s a one-year deal for now, but we’ll work something out long-term,” Hall told Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com. “That’s why I chose them. I don’t want to hit the market in the offseason and have to move my family again this year.

Per a league source, the Redskins want Hall to prove that he can be an asset in the locker room, and that he can return to past form on the field. If/when that happens, they’ll lock him up for the long haul.

In the end, Hall picked the Redskins from a pool that included three other teams — the Patriots, Ravens, and Jets. The packages, we’re told, were roughly equivalent.

Presumably, Hall will be the long-term replacement for Shawn Springs, who might or might not have been seen cramming a couple of duffel bags into the trunk of his car on Friday.


i really like this idea if he plays well and is a model citizen..... :D
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frankcal20 wrote:
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frankcal20 wrote:I think depending on his mindset, if he comes in here ready to play and understands that he is not the star of the team, this could be good. I'm hoping to see him latch on to London Fletcher to humble him a bit.

This could be a great move for us or a killer.


How in the world can this be a killer???????????

We payed 400 grand for the remainder of the season on a 1 year deal who will play for a big deal. He's not our number 1 DB and he is a hell of player.

It is a win win situation.


If he comes in the locker room with a "ME....ME" mentality then it could stir the pot a bit. I'm just saying that it depends on how he comes into the locker room. Here's the other thing, I would expect him to take the spot of Smoot at some point but that could be later. I wonder how he will deal with being a 3rd or even 4th guy on the depth chart. Just saying that this could be tough for us.

Another thing, who gets kicked off the team or do we see Kelly go to IR with this move.



There is no way that Hall will be terrible in the locker room.

1. He is fighting for a contract
2. He has a lot to prove, especially losing 63 mil.
3. He went to a losing team to a winning team


He will be on best behavior.


UNLESS some of our guys from the "U" get to him, but I doubt that will happen because of the tragedy last season.
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Sweet. I really think this will be a good move for the Skins.
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EA7649 wrote:UNLESS some of our guys from the "U" get to him, but I doubt that will happen because of the tragedy last season.


What guys from the U? And what do the guys from the U do that is so bad?
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I actually believe Hall will fit right in with guys like Smoot, Landry and Rogers, and those guys will welcome Hall into the group. I believe Hall knows this is his interview for a long term deal and big money, if not with the Skins, then obviously for another team. So he has no choice but to mature quickly and prove himself. He's left two dysfunctional organizations and is now with a contender. That should bring piece of mind and a new attitude. I'm happy to hear he wants a long term deal with the Skins.
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I wonder what number he'll wear... It better not be #21.
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Pretty sure that will be retired. I don't think that will happen for some time if it does not get retired.
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Countertrey wrote:Isn't Hall a pretty decent Return man, as well?


Yes. No matter when he gets worked into the starting D rotation, I say we put him back there for PR right away and let ARE tap dance away from the gridiron from now on.
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Fios wrote:It's a prorated one-year deal for a guy who is going to a veteran defense with a clear-cut leader. He's got two choices: be on his best behavior and hope that his performance nets him another large contract or sulk and blow his chance at big money. This costs the Redskins basically nothing, he's not going to disrupt a close-knit unit. The secondary is hurting and the team can't be certain how many games it can get out of Springs. Some people are going to tie this to the hyperbolic narrative of "Snyder always gets the big names" but this is a sensible, practical move.


And if anyone doubts that, the personnel geniuses at New England were also courting Hall. If NE was going to do the same thing (sign Hall), the 'skins can't be wrong! :wink:
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SkinsFreak wrote:I actually believe Hall will fit right in with guys like Smoot, Landry and Rogers, and those guys will welcome Hall into the group. I believe Hall knows this is his interview for a long term deal and big money, if not with the Skins, then obviously for another team. So he has no choice but to mature quickly and prove himself. He's left two dysfunctional organizations and is now with a contender. That should bring piece of mind and a new attitude. I'm happy to hear he wants a long term deal with the Skins.


I agree. It could actually be a win-win here depending upon the upcoming cap situation and what Hall is looking for, for a future deal. Some decisions will have to be made if Hall plays well the rest of the season.

1. Smoot. Do we re-sign him and how much will he cost?

2. Springs. What's his cap number and are we willing to hang onto him with his injuries if Hall turns out to be a stud and wants to stay?

3. How much are we willing to pay Hall if he plays well and wants to stay?

4. Is it goodbye to Torrence or Tryon?

5. Can we manuever enough with the money, egos and playing time to have the best secondary in the league with Rogers, Smoot, Springs, Hall, "Dirty 30" and the "Baby Tarantula"????


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Fios wrote:It's a prorated one-year deal for a guy who is going to a veteran defense with a clear-cut leader. He's got two choices: be on his best behavior and hope that his performance nets him another large contract or sulk and blow his chance at big money. This costs the Redskins basically nothing, he's not going to disrupt a close-knit unit. The secondary is hurting and the team can't be certain how many games it can get out of Springs. Some people are going to tie this to the hyperbolic narrative of "Snyder always gets the big names" but this is a sensible, practical move.


While I'm not as confident on Hall being on his best behavior, there a good reasons (Fletcher and Blache, as CT points out) to think he will at least be controlled if not a great team player.

Then, when you look at the money / risk involved, this deal is a no-brainer. It's all upside for the Skins.

Imagine a cornerback who can hang on to the ball when it hits his hands! :lol:
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Irn-Bru wrote:Imagine a cornerback who can hang on to the ball when it hits his hands! :lol:


And he's been stinking it up for a while now, you know they're going to throw it his way. Maybe it'll be contagious...
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