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NC43Hog wrote:Kaz - please come clean! Are you a Republican hiding behind the mask of Libertarianism?

"white male dominated left" please stop, you are killing me!!!

Palin can think as many different thoughts as she wants . . . we just haven't heard any.

I challenge you Kaz to go one political post without using hyperbolical comments. Maybe even refrain from using "Liberal" every 3rd word, all it does is make you look more and more like a right wing Republican extremist, which I am sure your not.

You can think I am whatever you want to think I am, don't give a rip. But there's no hyperbole in the monolithic left. I ask libs this all the time and so far every one's passed. Name two Democrats who disagree on anything.

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KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Cappster wrote:There is no bull to be cut holmes. I did not watch the debate with my liberal goggles on so my opinion is going to be different from yours. I would hope that after 35 years in office that Biden should be better well versed on issues that affect the Country. I think 90% of question dodging by Palin is excessive for you to say. She answered what she knew and basically admitted she needs to get caught up with all of the intricacies of each issue. A major part of debating is to try and keep the focus on your strong points. And honestly, any debate that you will watch from now until election day, questions asked to any candidate won't be treated as a yes or no answer. I honestly think that McCain, Obama, Biden, and Palin are all full of crap.

It is a hoot isn't it Cappster? Of course the "seasoned" DC politicians answer questions so forthright and have done such a great job that someone who hasn't been in the DC spotlight and can't avoid questions in a polished way like Biden are just scary they may not keep up the great work being done by Biden and the current high efficiency crew of lawyers running the government in DC now.

She seems like a nice lady. But hey, bottom line, she's not a LIBERAL. That makes her bad, very, very bad. And worse then that, she's a mere woman not empowered to think different thoughts then the elitist white male dominated Left which means she must be destroyed. Women, blacks, other minorities are empowered to accept, repeat and believe the Liberal ideology as explained to them by the white men. They are NOT allowed to diverge from those views as explained to them by the superior white male left mind. And of course everyone KNOWS the elitist left white men are completely correct in every way, which means the rest of us are liars for opposing them. What we say is bull because we know our pathetic counter arguments are bogus since again we KNOW they are actually correct in every way. We are selfish, greedy, ignorant Christians, even if we're not.

You have a twisted view of the world

This is true. It's "twisted" to not accept what everyone (i.e., the Left) all say. I don't accept that, you're dead on. I'd say thanks for pointing it out, but I was already aware of that.

I do like how the endless Left rhetoric is totally cool, but when it's COUNTERED consistently it's, c'mon Kaz, get over it. Pretty persuasive stuff.

Let's talk blacks not liberal accepted by the left. The Left bloggers call Condie "Aunt Jemima" and Colin Powell "Uncle Tom" with Clarance Thomas of course being the devil, the "moderate" left, silence. Let's discuss liberal blacks who diverge from the left on anything, flash to the empty room in the Boss's picture.

Women, wow, lots of divergence there, women who are accepted by the left and disagree with them on anything. Let's see, flash to the empty room.

And my other views, government is inept and we should be free to make our own choices except for those functions only government can provide, like defense, police. But to be free to do what I want with my wallet and my body? The left isn't even with me on body supporting drug laws and opposing prostitution and other uses of one's own bodies not approved by the government. The right to take prescription drugs, hire a doctor or lawyer of my choice, work for a wage below what the government says I can, force me to join a union I don't want to to perform a whole host of jobs like unloading ships, serving drinks on an airplane, driving a truck, acting, ... Then there's how I can't buy a car directly from an auto company, I have to go through a dealer middleman. Or how bout how I can't hire someone to cut my hair, trim my nails, pick the paint color in my living room. I can't open stores w/o adhering to government approved hours. In many places I can't buy/sell alcohol as only the government can do that.

There is simply no hyperbole in that we are DROWNING in government and yet the left is begging, pleading for MORE. We are insane in this country. We are choking the free market goose that laid the golden egg.

Yes, what a wacko I am, I see your point.

Cappster wrote:I did not watch the debate with my liberal goggles on so my opinion is going to be different from yours.

Dude, I don't even know what category I fall into it. I assume since I'm calling out Palin for being inexperienced that makes me a liberal.

Regardless, I hope everyone else felt as insulted as I did that McCain would pick someone that inexperienced to be our VP and potential President. It's obvious he picked her just cus Obama didn't pick Hillary and what makes it worse is that there were many other women expotentially more qualified.

I don't dislike McCain but it's clear that he'd rather give us some baloney than a true VP that he'd want. I find that disrespectful and it worrying that he's catering to the lowest common denominator.

This needs to be posted again for hilarity and accuracy.

KazooSkinsFan wrote:You can think I am whatever you want to think I am, don't give a rip. But there's no hyperbole in the monolithic left. I ask libs this all the time and so far every one's passed. Name two Democrats who disagree on anything.

Well you abbreviated it but you still only made it to sentence 3. The master of hyperbole!

And we wonder why constructive communication in this country continues to break down.

So every vote in the house and senate since our great nation began has always followed party lines? How about the Bailout/Rescue Plan - lots of differences between Democrats and Republicans within their own parties. Is this too obvious?

NC43Hog wrote::hail: The master of hyperbole!

Yes, we've established I'm not following the Democratic party line, which is hyperbole. Point already made. I notice you passed on this as well, another in a LONG line of liberals.

Kaz wrote:Name two Democrats who disagree on anything.

Which is a better answer to this:

NC43Hog wrote:And we wonder why constructive communication in this country continues to break down.

George Patton "“If we all think alike, we are not thinking." How do you have "constructive" discussion with a monolith? And what has your Left done that facilitates discussion?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Dude, I don't even know what category I fall into it. I assume since I'm calling out Palin for being inexperienced that makes me a liberal

Not if you're calling out the equally inexperienced Barrack for his inexperience. Are you?

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Dude, I don't even know what category I fall into it. I assume since I'm calling out Palin for being inexperienced that makes me a liberal

Not if you're calling out the equally inexperienced Barrack for his inexperience. Are you?

Simply staying on topic. And from what I've witnessed, they are not equally inexperienced. Barack is inexperienced but not as bad as Palin.

NC43Hog wrote:So every vote in the house and senate since our great nation began has always followed party lines?

Um...yeah, that's what I meant.

NC43Hog wrote:How about the Bailout/Rescue Plan - lots of differences between Democrats and Republicans within their own parties. Is this too obvious?

Yes, because they did it for a lot of reasons and none of them were true policy differences. I am asking for a DIFFERENT position actually espoused by two Democrats. Not that one wants to cut and run now versus in 6 months, not that one is up for a tight election in a more moderate district and voted against the bailout, but a DIFFERENT view.

Doesn't the unending growth in the burden of government SCARE you? If I remember you are a young guy, you want starting out that you have no freedom left other then what government allows you? You want others to decide what's a "fair" amount of your money for you to keep and to spend the rest for you building their own power? You should be more Conservative then me.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Dude, I don't even know what category I fall into it. I assume since I'm calling out Palin for being inexperienced that makes me a liberal

Not if you're calling out the equally inexperienced Barrack for his inexperience. Are you?

Simply staying on topic. And from what I've witnessed, they are not equally inexperienced. Barack is inexperienced but not as bad as Palin.

In what way is Barrack MORE experienced then Palin? Being a Senator for 6 months more then she was a governor is the difference between acceptable and unacceptable "experience?" To such a degree that he's actually OK to HEAD the ticket and her six months less as Governor is a concern to be #2? That actually makes sense to you?

KazooSkinsFan wrote:If I remember you are a young guy, you want starting out . . .

OOOOOOK! Well I sure feel young, at times, but my avatar should be a good clue as to my actual age.

Despite my advancing years, I now remember why I don't/shouldn't get into political discussion on this or any other board. Pointless - closed minds don't get opened and communication degenerates into gross generalizations.

I didn't say anything was ok. I already admitted that his inexperience is a valid point, what more do you want?

Regardless of his inexperience or my inexperience or whatever else you want to discuss, her "debate" was horrendous. That's all I came in here to talk about.

I don't claim to know anything about politics and like most people I see enough for it to turn me off. I've been watching the debates and Palin simply came off as being terribly out of her league in contrast to everyone else. That's simply what I got from it.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I don't dislike McCain but it's clear that he'd rather give us some baloney than a true VP that he'd want.

You think THAT's crap? What about the Presidential candidate who got owned by his pick for VP????If McCain gave baloney, Obama picked a cowpie.

It's funny when Republicans start losing

NC43Hog wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:If I remember you are a young guy, you want starting out . . .

OOOOOOK! Well I sure feel young, at times, but my avatar should be a good clue as to my actual age.

Despite my advancing years, I now remember why I don't/shouldn't get into political discussion on this or any other board. Pointless - closed minds don't get opened and communication degenerates into gross generalizations.

My sentiments precisely

NC43Hog wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:If I remember you are a young guy, you want starting out . . .

OOOOOOK! Well I sure feel young, at times, but my avatar should be a good clue as to my actual age.

Despite my advancing years, I now remember why I don't/shouldn't get into political discussion on this or any other board. Pointless - closed minds don't get opened and communication degenerates into gross generalizations.

How is your mind open?

Obviously I'm confusing you with someone else on the age, can't remember who it was then. But I'm glad you "feel young" even if it's just at times. And you're right, you shouldn't discuss politics if disagreement bothers you. I love disagreement, I just am disappointed in the lack of content I get back from the Left. Then again, since we're driving down their road and the Republicans are content just slowing them down a little, why shouldn't the personal responsibility challenged in this country who prefer the predictable chains of government to the wide open opportunity to succeed on one's own be happy?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I didn't say anything was ok. I already admitted that his inexperience is a valid point, what more do you want?

You said

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Barack is inexperienced but not as bad as Palin

I still don't know what that means. He won a Senate race and sat in DC doing nothing a few more months then she actually had to deal with RUNNING a State government. How is he "not as bad as Palin" with inexperience? And again those few more months of little responsibility Barrack had not only pass her but put him on TOP of the ticket? Don't answer if you don't want to, but you asked what else I wanted and I actually wanted answers to the questions I asked you.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:Regardless of his inexperience or my inexperience or whatever else you want to discuss, her "debate" was horrendous. That's all I came in here to talk about.

I don't claim to know anything about politics and like most people I see enough for it to turn me off. I've been watching the debates and Palin simply came off as being terribly out of her league in contrast to everyone else. That's simply what I got from it.

OK, we just have to disagree that being able to say nothing in a polished DC insider way over her not having mastered that skill yet puts her "out of her league." Even if you don't follow politics, you have to see that the insiders of BOTH parties are completely hosing this country and emulating either one of them is nothing to be proud of and no standard for "qualification."

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I don't dislike McCain but it's clear that he'd rather give us some baloney than a true VP that he'd want.

No one wants Biden but the Left. No one wants Palin but the Republicans. That makes Obama better because...

OK, we just have to disagree that being able to say nothing in a polished DC insider way over her not having mastered that skill yet puts her "out of her league."

I don't think Biden said "nothing" it seemed to me that most of his answers were articulate and attempted to answer the question's he was posed. Palin on the other hand spent most of her time avoiding real definitive answers for anything, aside from oil drilling, and mostly used Republican talking to guide her responses.

Sir_Monk wrote:

OK, we just have to disagree that being able to say nothing in a polished DC insider way over her not having mastered that skill yet puts her "out of her league."

I don't think Biden said "nothing" it seemed to me that most of his answers were articulate and attempted to answer the question's he was posed. Palin on the other hand spent most of her time avoiding real definitive answers for anything, aside from oil drilling, and mostly used Republican talking to guide her responses.

What did Biden say that wasn't "Democratic?" I didn't see the whole thing, I work in Boston and travel home Thursday evening, but what I saw was Biden sticking to the Democratic Party script and her sticking to the Republican. Since you're saying Biden somehow went beyond that, give me one good example.

I'll tell you one that cracked me up. When he said he didn't believe you should nominate judges who differ from your ideology. That cracked me up. It certainly wasn't varying from the Democratic party script.

Well, Palin didn't finch or anything.
She held her own.
Despite Biden having the experience.
Still, one more month before election day!

As someone who has done a bit of debating, and someone who couldn't give a crap about the politics of the debate - I'll just say that IMO, Biden handed Palin her ass as far as actual debating goes.

When the debate was over, all I knew about Palin was that I'm pretty sure that she wanted a date with me because she winked at me about a half-dozen times.

Beauty pageant kiss up antics in a nationally televised political debate? That's actually pathetically unprofessional in my opinion. I didn't get a 'folksy' feel to it - I just kept thinking, wow, yet another thing she can't answer...

But then again, maybe that's better than coming up with answers like, "Nuclear weaponry, of course, would be the be-all, end-all of just too many people in too many parts of our planet..."

Brilliant.

In the infamous 'Friends, Romans, Countrymen...' soliloquy in Julius Caesar, Marc Antony tells you that 'Brutus is an honorable man' repeatedly. He does so in hopes that every time it is heard, it will mean less and less. Kind of like:

"John McCain is a Maverick."

By the end, it didn't even sound like SHE meant it...

Boss said,

When the debate was over, all I knew about Palin was that I'm pretty sure that she wanted a date with me because she winked at me about a half-dozen times.

That bit drove me nuts. She wants to be president, she wants to control "nucyular" weapons, and she keeps winking at the audience?

I had woman as a company president once, the first CIO of GE, and she never winked, or wiggled, or generally acted like Betty Boop when she talked to us.

Weird. Just weird.

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For the rest, I know what Biden's and Obama's policies would be, but Palin hardly outlined a Republican policy. She began to talk about health care when she mentioned that McCain wants to give a $5,000 tax credit to everyone so we can buy health insurance, but she failed to defend the plan when Biden pointed out that (a) you can't buy much health insurance for $5,000, and (b) McCain would tax the health benefits we get if our companies provide insurance.

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For curiosity: what do Canadians think of your health insurance?

I saw this on another board and thought it was awesome.

Do these debates really matter anymore? Is this really a democratic process anymore? Yeah right!

Honestly Biden was right on the money when it came to the issues. Only thing is he was so boring I fell asleep during his responses. Palin on the other hand had charm , nice smile and really dodged most of the questions by raising her own. LOL!

It is he who can charm America wins. Reagen , Kennedy and Clinton are classic examples of that.

Here is my hardcore view. There is far to much hate for Obama to win. Where do most of the voters come from? The South.

Far to much racisists in the South if you ask me. No way they let a colored man win this.

If people where willing to let a man like George W. Bush become President? What faith do I have in voters that elected an idiot.

Exactly!

So this will be the last political conversation I have. I will go back to my sportscenter and put on my shades and pretend I dont see whats going on. It is better that way.

BossHog wrote:When the debate was over, all I knew about Palin was that I'm pretty sure that she wanted a date with me because she winked at me about a half-dozen times.

I thought maybe this was a nervous tic.

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