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yupchagee wrote:

Countertrey wrote:

HEROHAMO wrote:Schwagert sucked plain and simple.

He was horrible on the Raiders and was going to stink it up for our team. So I am glad they let him go. This is what I have been saying ever since the team signed him. Be happy people this is a good thing.

What it says is, "the team is VERY happy with the 2 rookie safeties", and that IS a good thing.

How happy can we be with Moore? He's barely set foot on the field.

Safety picture taking new look with Redskins

Aug. 6, 2008

The release of FS Stuart Schweigert shouldn’t be a surprise, team sources say, despite the fact that he joined the team with a chance to start. It turns out that Schweigert was a poor fit in the Redskins’ aggressive style of defense, and the coaches just felt more comfortable with LaRon Landry and Reed Doughty starting. Landry, when he gets back on the field, should play most of his snaps at free safety alongside Doughty, who is better closer to the line of scrimmage. There also have been a few surprise performances of note at the position that will help the depth, even without Schweigert around. Rookies Chris Horton (seventh round) and Kareem Moore (sixth round) have played well, but Horton especially has caught the team’s eye. He had an auspicious debut against the Colts in the Hall of Fame game, with two sacks, a recovery of an onside kick and a near interception. Moore has been more of a factor on special teams to date, but he, too, has impressed.

-- HORTON DOWN, MOORE UP

Chris Horton was absent from practice on Wednesday due to a stomach virus, Jim Zorn said. "We are giving him a day of rest," Zorn said. "He is on antibiotics and he will play in [Saturday's] game." With Horton sidelined for Wednesday's practices, coaches had an extended look at another rookie safety in Kareem Moore. Moore, 5-11 and 213 pounds, has seen limited playing time this training camp as he recovers from off-season knee surgery. Coaches like what they see in Moore, who is currently listed as the backup free safety behind LaRon Landry. "Kareem Moore should play a little bit more," Greg Blache said. "He has done some good things in practice."

MDSKINSFAN wrote:he looked just as bad as doughty in the HOF game

VetSkinsFan wrote:

MDSKINSFAN wrote:he looked just as bad as doughty in the HOF game

I wouldn't go that far.. you also have to remember that we were missing 6 out of our starting 7. That's going to have a significant impact on the defense.

SkinsFreak wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

MDSKINSFAN wrote:he looked just as bad as doughty in the HOF game

I wouldn't go that far.. you also have to remember that we were missing 6 out of our starting 7. That's going to have a significant impact on the defense.

Except for Horton...

By the way, it is early in the preseason. We're still going to see a lot from Doughty, Horton and Moore. It's going to be a good competition.

Gibbs4Life wrote:Everyone watch the Bills game and see if 90% of the Bills offense is not specifically targeting doughty. Last year his game against dallas made me want to gag myself, cause it was like dallas knew without Sean they could get what they wanted at doughty, I mean Jason Witten has ZERO fear going right at the kid, to me and maybe I'm expecting to much but to me we need a strong hitter, someone who knows how to lay folks out. Sean was the Brett Favre of safeties his type of talent I doubt I'll ever see in my lifetime again, still there are options for us...Horton Moore and even Springs who if you've noticed is pretty rocked up.

VetSkinsFan wrote:

Gibbs4Life wrote:Everyone watch the Bills game and see if 90% of the Bills offense is not specifically targeting doughty. Last year his game against dallas made me want to gag myself, cause it was like dallas knew without Sean they could get what they wanted at doughty, I mean Jason Witten has ZERO fear going right at the kid, to me and maybe I'm expecting to much but to me we need a strong hitter, someone who knows how to lay folks out. Sean was the Brett Favre of safeties his type of talent I doubt I'll ever see in my lifetime again, still there are options for us...Horton Moore and even Springs who if you've noticed is pretty rocked up.

Wasn't Dallas the game he played FS? I think we've kicked that dead horse. I don't recall anyone saying Doughty should be FS....

GSPODS wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

Gibbs4Life wrote:Everyone watch the Bills game and see if 90% of the Bills offense is not specifically targeting doughty. Last year his game against dallas made me want to gag myself, cause it was like dallas knew without Sean they could get what they wanted at doughty, I mean Jason Witten has ZERO fear going right at the kid, to me and maybe I'm expecting to much but to me we need a strong hitter, someone who knows how to lay folks out. Sean was the Brett Favre of safeties his type of talent I doubt I'll ever see in my lifetime again, still there are options for us...Horton Moore and even Springs who if you've noticed is pretty rocked up.

Wasn't Dallas the game he played FS? I think we've kicked that dead horse. I don't recall anyone saying Doughty should be FS....

More like ES ... Emergency Safety. The Reedskins (intentional Freudian Slip) didn't have any other options at the time. Everyone got torched deep in that game, not just Reed Doughty, who was out of position and 30 yards off the line of scrimmage.

VetSkinsFan wrote:

GSPODS wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

Gibbs4Life wrote:Everyone watch the Bills game and see if 90% of the Bills offense is not specifically targeting doughty. Last year his game against dallas made me want to gag myself, cause it was like dallas knew without Sean they could get what they wanted at doughty, I mean Jason Witten has ZERO fear going right at the kid, to me and maybe I'm expecting to much but to me we need a strong hitter, someone who knows how to lay folks out. Sean was the Brett Favre of safeties his type of talent I doubt I'll ever see in my lifetime again, still there are options for us...Horton Moore and even Springs who if you've noticed is pretty rocked up.

Wasn't Dallas the game he played FS? I think we've kicked that dead horse. I don't recall anyone saying Doughty should be FS....

More like ES ... Emergency Safety. The Reedskins (intentional Freudian Slip) didn't have any other options at the time. Everyone got torched deep in that game, not just Reed Doughty, who was out of position and 30 yards off the line of scrimmage.

A lot of people like to crucify Doughty exclusively for that game... I like to wizz on the torch that's trying to burn the witch

GSPODS wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

GSPODS wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

Gibbs4Life wrote:Everyone watch the Bills game and see if 90% of the Bills offense is not specifically targeting doughty. Last year his game against dallas made me want to gag myself, cause it was like dallas knew without Sean they could get what they wanted at doughty, I mean Jason Witten has ZERO fear going right at the kid, to me and maybe I'm expecting to much but to me we need a strong hitter, someone who knows how to lay folks out. Sean was the Brett Favre of safeties his type of talent I doubt I'll ever see in my lifetime again, still there are options for us...Horton Moore and even Springs who if you've noticed is pretty rocked up.

Wasn't Dallas the game he played FS? I think we've kicked that dead horse. I don't recall anyone saying Doughty should be FS....

More like ES ... Emergency Safety. The Reedskins (intentional Freudian Slip) didn't have any other options at the time. Everyone got torched deep in that game, not just Reed Doughty, who was out of position and 30 yards off the line of scrimmage.

A lot of people like to crucify Doughty exclusively for that game... I like to wizz on the torch that's trying to burn the witch

The result is the same, no matter how we look at this as fans.
We have to trust the Redskins front office and coaching staff to make the right player personnel decisions, at least until they prove they have no idea what they are doing.

SkinsFreak wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

MDSKINSFAN wrote:he looked just as bad as doughty in the HOF game

I wouldn't go that far.. you also have to remember that we were missing 6 out of our starting 7. That's going to have a significant impact on the defense.

Except for Horton...

By the way, it is early in the preseason. We're still going to see a lot from Doughty, Horton and Moore. It's going to be a good competition.

MDSKINSFAN wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

MDSKINSFAN wrote:he looked just as bad as doughty in the HOF game

I wouldn't go that far.. you also have to remember that we were missing 6 out of our starting 7. That's going to have a significant impact on the defense.

Except for Horton...

By the way, it is early in the preseason. We're still going to see a lot from Doughty, Horton and Moore. It's going to be a good competition.

id rather see horton than doughty. i think hes faster, hits harder, and people will at least fear going across the middle on him if he can get that hard hitting reputation

VetSkinsFan wrote:

MDSKINSFAN wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

MDSKINSFAN wrote:he looked just as bad as doughty in the HOF game

I wouldn't go that far.. you also have to remember that we were missing 6 out of our starting 7. That's going to have a significant impact on the defense.

Except for Horton...

By the way, it is early in the preseason. We're still going to see a lot from Doughty, Horton and Moore. It's going to be a good competition.

id rather see horton than doughty. i think hes faster, hits harder, and people will at least fear going across the middle on him if he can get that hard hitting reputation

I honestly believe it's too early to make that kind of judgment. We haven't even seen him play a whole game in the NFL yet.

VetSkinsFan wrote:

Gibbs4Life wrote:Everyone watch the Bills game and see if 90% of the Bills offense is not specifically targeting doughty. Last year his game against dallas made me want to gag myself, cause it was like dallas knew without Sean they could get what they wanted at doughty, I mean Jason Witten has ZERO fear going right at the kid, to me and maybe I'm expecting to much but to me we need a strong hitter, someone who knows how to lay folks out. Sean was the Brett Favre of safeties his type of talent I doubt I'll ever see in my lifetime again, still there are options for us...Horton Moore and even Springs who if you've noticed is pretty rocked up.

Wasn't Dallas the game he played FS? I think we've kicked that dead horse. I don't recall anyone saying Doughty should be FS....

No, Doughty played SS in that game, I have it on tape. No way would Gregg Williams play Doughty over Landry at FS against T.O. and the Cowpies.

And to be honest, the Dallas game wasn't the only game Doughty struggled in. I know you like Doughty a lot, and I like the kid as well. But I think we all can agree we want the best player on the field, and if that's Doughty, then great, I'm all for that.

SkinsJock wrote:I do not know a lot of the nuances of playing certain positions in the NFL BUT from what I've read over the last few pages, I'm really glad that our coaching staff will make the decisions regarding the positions of Free Safety and Strong Safety for this team this year.

Fios wrote:MAKE SHAUN SUISHAM THE FREE SAFETY!!!

yupchagee wrote:

Fios wrote:MAKE SHAUN SUISHAM THE FREE SAFETY!!!

What have you been sipping