Evaluating the Jason Taylor Deal...

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Jake wrote:
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I'll go so far as to guarantee he won't be a locker-room distraction.


"A guy like Jason Taylor, you have to know where he is on the field at all times," offensive lineman Jon Jansen said. "Because if you don't, your quarterback's going to get hurt."


It doesn't really sound like the Redskins think Taylor will be a distraction.
Except to every team the Redskins play this season.


Exactly.
Hey, I want this team to win the Big One more than anybody. I´m just exasperated by some actions taken by the FO in the past that have made little or no sense at all.

I believe this Taylor move will be in that latter category. It has all the makings of big trades of the past: everpaid, high-profile, media crazy player that has two seasons left in the tank.

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This definitely is not a slam dunk. Like I've said before, it was a calculated gamble. We just pulled out the credit card and bought our deefense a present. Still a bunch of questions about how JT will fit into our defense and equally importantly, who will play LDE? (because it ain't gonna be JT on at least half the plays.)

That said, I do believe he is a great weapon if used properly. Hopefully he helps us win something meaningful during the next two season, otherwise, it will go down as another FO "miscalculation".
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fleetus wrote:This definitely is not a slam dunk. Like I've said before, it was a calculated gamble.


Isn't everything a calculated gamble?

That said, I do believe he is a great weapon if used properly. Hopefully he helps us win something meaningful during the next two season, otherwise, it will go down as another FO "miscalculation".


Maybe. But it's a much smarter move than they've been making in the past.

It's nowhere on the same level as the TJ Duckett or Brandon Lloyd acquisitions (3rd and 4th is more valuable to me than a 2nd and 6th). Especially since Taylor's been a huge success in the NFL, whereas neither Duckett nor Lloyd ever were any good.
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PulpExposure wrote:
Isn't everything a calculated gamble?



Yes, including the decision not to use birth control and the choice to overstate the obvious. Both risk the result of having everyone point out the error at every opportunity.

PulpExposure wrote:it's a much smarter move than they've been making in the past.

It's nowhere on the same level as the TJ Duckett or Brandon Lloyd acquisitions (3rd and 4th is more valuable to me than a 2nd and 6th). Especially since Taylor's been a huge success in the NFL, whereas neither Duckett nor Lloyd ever were any good.


Agreed. This is the smartest trade the Redskins have made in a very long time as far as receiving equal or better value, instead of giving up equal or better value.
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PulpExposure wrote:
fleetus wrote:This definitely is not a slam dunk. Like I've said before, it was a calculated gamble.


Isn't everything a calculated gamble?


Some of you guys get a little too happy with the semantic arguments. Let me splain it another way. In the midst of all the drama queens swearing this move is a horrible over-reach or the other side swearing this is the best move ever, I'm saying, a 2nd and 6th rounder doesn't qualify as over-reaching. However, considering JT will only play 2 seasons, is not a direct LDE replacement and is making $8+ mil, he will need to seriously produce to make this deal a worthwhile expenditure.

Since we have no way to predict the future, I am only saying, I think it is about 50/50 that he will live up to the price paid. Thus my words, "a calculated gamble". Maybe a better way to word it would have been, "an appropriately calculated gamble" because they made an appropriate move given the situation and paid an appropriate price, BUT, we still have questions to answer regarding the LDE and how to best utilize MR. Jason Taylor. Okay?
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fleetus wrote:
PulpExposure wrote:
fleetus wrote:This definitely is not a slam dunk. Like I've said before, it was a calculated gamble.


Isn't everything a calculated gamble?


Some of you guys get a little too happy with the semantic arguments. Let me splain it another way. In the midst of all the drama queens swearing this move is a horrible over-reach or the other side swearing this is the best move ever, I'm saying, a 2nd and 6th rounder doesn't qualify as over-reaching. However, considering JT will only play 2 seasons, is not a direct LDE replacement and is making $8+ mil, he will need to seriously produce to make this deal a worthwhile expenditure.

Since we have no way to predict the future, I am only saying, I think it is about 50/50 that he will live up to the price paid. Thus my words, "a calculated gamble". Maybe a better way to word it would have been, "an appropriately calculated gamble" because they made an appropriate move given the situation and paid an appropriate price, BUT, we still have questions to answer regarding the LDE and how to best utilize MR. Jason Taylor. Okay?


Much better, because the way it was stated previously made it look like your opinion was that Jason Taylor was yet another innapropriately calculated gamble, in the Bruce Smith, Adam Archuleta, Brandon Lloyd, T.J. Duckett, (insert name here) mold. I think most Redskins fans feel like, if they were going to make a trade, this was the one to make. And we as fans have to hope this was a good move, because if not this is going to be one long season.
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fleetus wrote:
PulpExposure wrote:
fleetus wrote:This definitely is not a slam dunk. Like I've said before, it was a calculated gamble.


Isn't everything a calculated gamble?


Some of you guys get a little too happy with the semantic arguments.


I'm a lawyer, I can't help it. :oops:

But yes, I understand what you're saying. I wasn't saying I disagreed with you, but every FA signing or draft pick really is a calculated gamble.

I mean we gave away a 2nd rounder, who could prove to be a valuable player. Or who could prove to be Taylor Jacobs.
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