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JansenFan wrote:I hate LeBron in the way I hate Michael Jordan. When you are that good AND get the benefit of the doubt from the officials, you are un-stoppable. Here's hoping he stays unhappy in Cleveland and decides to come play with Caron.

Odd how they let both Jordan and James take three steps on every drive.
If they let me take three steps on every drive, I could score 30 a night, too. These guys are talented enough. They don't need any help.

JansenFan wrote:I hate LeBron in the way I hate Michael Jordan. When you are that good AND get the benefit of the doubt from the officials, you are un-stoppable. Here's hoping he stays unhappy in Cleveland and decides to come play with Caron.

Oh no, Jordan and Lebron do not belong in the same sentence. I Believe that Arenas needs to shut his mouth and play ball. I try and support all of the other home teams, but I cannot deal with guys who say "they aren't that good' especially when your team isn't that good. Hail to the Redskins and I love football.

Secondary_Chaos wrote:

JansenFan wrote:I hate LeBron in the way I hate Michael Jordan. When you are that good AND get the benefit of the doubt from the officials, you are un-stoppable. Here's hoping he stays unhappy in Cleveland and decides to come play with Caron.

just another stereotypical response from a wizards fan. LeBron IS that good, but in regards to getting the calls from the refs, thats stretching it. LeBron gets hacked all day long driving to the basket, but not a thing is said about that. And LeBron hates Washington, so playin for them is stretching it even further. King James has and always will own this Wizards team. Now its just time for the team and its fans to realize this. BOSTON, HERE WE COME! ALL HAIL KING JAMES!

You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying he gets all the calls. I'm simply saying that if the call could go either way, he gets it. He's not the only one. Most offensive stars do. The difference is that he is SOOO good, that knowing if it's close its going his way make him unstoppable. Thanks for actually reading my post instead of flying off the handle.

Who'd you like before LeBron joined the Cavs, anyway.

JansenFan wrote:

Secondary_Chaos wrote:

JansenFan wrote:I hate LeBron in the way I hate Michael Jordan. When you are that good AND get the benefit of the doubt from the officials, you are un-stoppable. Here's hoping he stays unhappy in Cleveland and decides to come play with Caron.

just another stereotypical response from a wizards fan. LeBron IS that good, but in regards to getting the calls from the refs, thats stretching it. LeBron gets hacked all day long driving to the basket, but not a thing is said about that. And LeBron hates Washington, so playin for them is stretching it even further. King James has and always will own this Wizards team. Now its just time for the team and its fans to realize this. BOSTON, HERE WE COME! ALL HAIL KING JAMES!

You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying he gets all the calls. I'm simply saying that if the call could go either way, he gets it. He's not the only one. Most offensive stars do. The difference is that he is SOOO good, that knowing if it's close its going his way make him unstoppable. Thanks for actually reading my post instead of flying off the handle.

Who'd you like before LeBron joined the Cavs, anyway.

First off, I dont mean to group you in to the stereotypical Washington fan base. I misunderstood your post and assumed you were just one of the many. Secondly, I was born in Cleveland. I hate when people assume im a bandwagon fan because of LeBron. But anyways, yes I would agree that he does have the upper hand in questionable situations, which is why he was in the top ten in the league in free throw attempts in the regular season and the playoffs. Still, LeBron is the man and Washington (as they know deep down) needs to realize this and stop looking stupid. Glad to see you break the cycle of whiny Wizards fans.

Also, LeBron gets a lot of calls because he goes to the basket so often. When you initiate in the NBA, you will get the call more often than not. But, make no mistake about this, LeBron takes a LOT of hits that simply do not draw a whistle. LOTS of them, many of which are clear fouls. I think his size works against him at times because what might be a hard foul on another player won't phase LBJ.
I also have to say this, I have gone from antipathy toward to open hatred for the Wizards with the exceptions of Caron Butler (who should have been give the ball at the end of game 4), Antwaan Jamison (very classy and pathetically under-utilized ... always been one of my favorite players) and Antonio Daniels (should have started every game).
I hope it ends tonight and I hope it's not even close.

Fios wrote:I also have to say this, I have gone from antipathy toward to open hatred for the Wizards with the exceptions of Caron Butler (who should have been give the ball at the end of game 4), Antwaan Jamison (very classy and pathetically under-utilized ... always been one of my favorite players) and Antonio Daniels (should have started every game).

Me, too.

I'm glad the Caps are getting better. Hockey playoffs mean I can skip the NBA playoffs. Gilbert said before the season he will opt out. That is the best case scenario. The time he spent on IR showed that Butler can be the franchise player, and does so while making other's better. I'll admit, i bought into the Gilbert hype when he was making all those killer half-court end-of-quarter shots, but this season, I saw a whole different side of him. Cleared to play, yet missing important stretch run games where winning could mean playing some one besides the Cavs or at least getting home court. Talking smack about a guy who is 99% responsible for ousting you from the playoffs three years in a row? Some one who has owned you?

For secondary_chaos, I re-read my initial post, and I can see why you would get that impression, particularly since the third word is hate.

Hate isn't the right word, rally. I just don't know what the right word is. It's the type of hate I have for Duke, the Yankees, the Cowboys, the Patriots , etc. I can't stand it when teams and players that aren't my own dominating. I respect the hell out of them, butI dispise them for it.

Also, I'm glad to hear you are from Cleveland. I know sooo many people who are "life-long, die-hard" Cavs fans, that can't name a player that played for them without LeBron.

Arenas sitting out is the best thing that could have happened to the Wizards.
The Cavs are a bad - bad - road team, game 4 aside. Can't see the Wizards taking the series but they have a very real shot at forcing a game 7.

Fios wrote:Arenas sitting out is the best thing that could have happened to the Wizards.
The Cavs are a bad - bad - road team, game 4 aside. Can't see the Wizards taking the series but they have a very real shot at forcing a game 7.

The Wizards, well, Caron Butler specifically, managed to force a game six.
While that game seven is a possibility, the odds of Cleveland losing three games in a row are next to nil.

GSPODS wrote:

Fios wrote:Arenas sitting out is the best thing that could have happened to the Wizards.
The Cavs are a bad - bad - road team, game 4 aside. Can't see the Wizards taking the series but they have a very real shot at forcing a game 7.

The Wizards, well, Caron Butler specifically, managed to force a game six.
While that game seven is a possibility, the odds of Cleveland losing three games in a row are next to nil.

More accurately, Cleveland is not likely to lose again at home. Trust me, they are more than capable of dropping three in a row to Washington. Of the Cavs 82 regular-season games, I probably watched about 60 of them, I know this team and its many flaws all too well. Mike Brown is - hands down (man down*) - the worst coach in the NBA. By far.


*One person on this site will get that joke

Fios wrote:

GSPODS wrote:

Fios wrote:Arenas sitting out is the best thing that could have happened to the Wizards.
The Cavs are a bad - bad - road team, game 4 aside. Can't see the Wizards taking the series but they have a very real shot at forcing a game 7.

The Wizards, well, Caron Butler specifically, managed to force a game six.
While that game seven is a possibility, the odds of Cleveland losing three games in a row are next to nil.

More accurately, Cleveland is not likely to lose again at home. Trust me, they are more than capable of dropping three in a row to Washington. Of the Cavs 82 regular-season games, I probably watched about 60 of them, I know this team and its many flaws all too well. Mike Brown is - hands down (man down*) - the worst coach in the NBA. By far.


*One person on this site will get that joke

The Cavs can be a very frustrating team to watch. LeBron gets into his "Hot Shot LBJ" moods and likes to dribble around and take ridiculous fade away shots. The Cavs dont have an offense and they can play some unmotivated basketball. Mike Brown needs to go. The Cavs need to send him and his life long supply of cheesy puff cheetos on his merry little way. Then they need to hire a competent coach who can get LBJ to focus and play disciplined basketball. They will still win this series, and The King can beat Boston (ESPECIALLY if Atlanta is giving 'em a hard time), which means Brown is here to stay. Lets just hope that doesnt push LeBron out the door. go cavs. woo.

The Cavs will win, because a Wizard guaranteed a game 7. This time, Coach Eddie Jordan.

JansenFan wrote:The Cavs will win, because a Wizard guaranteed a game 7. This time, Coach Eddie Jordan.

The Cavs lack discipline, seriously, there is no reason the Wizards should have an issue forcing a game 7 unless LeBron just decides to dominate the game.

One triple-double later and we're in the second round. 3 times now the Wizards and their fans watch their team booted from playoff contention in their house. Nicely done Cavs. Now we have to wait and see who wins the Bos-Atl series, which is a VERY good one. Anyone see that game last night? INTENSE!

ALL HAIL KING JAMES!

Boston is beatable. The Wizards owned them this year by putting Caron on Pierce. Caron held him in check with defense, and owned him on the offensive end.

LeBron should easily be the MVP.
Without him, Cleveland is battling for lottery balls, not playoff wins.

JansenFan wrote:Boston is beatable. The Wizards owned them this year by putting Caron on Pierce. Caron held him in check with defense, and owned him on the offensive end.

The Cavs split their series with Boston in the reg season and if James and Co. keep playing this way, Boston is definitely beatable. I would be ecstatic to see Atl in the next round tho. I can say this about the Cavs-Wiz series; it was an intense one. With all the talk and fouls and hard play, it was definitely a fun series to watch.