Skins Release WR's Espy & Harris

[yupchagee]

I feel much more comfortable at WR than I do at OG.

You do realize that if the season started today we would be starting Moss and Thrash? I don't think that there would be a worse #2 receiver in the entire NFL so I'm not sure how you can be comfortable with that. Zorn has already said that ARE is being moved into the slot. Even if we draft an OG in the first round (highly unlikely) Kendall will still be the starter this season unless he gets hurt.

CanesSkins is right. We are 1 injury away from disaster at G. We are already at disaster at WR.

[GSPODS]

The number of offensive plays without a #2 wide receiver? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Zero.

[yupchagee]

The number of offensive plays without a #2 wide receiver? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Zero.

In all fairness, there are a few near the goal line.

[GSPODS]

The number of offensive plays without a #2 wide receiver? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Zero.

In all fairness, there are a few near the goal line.

Yes, but how does a team get to the opposing goal line without a legal offensive formation, which requires a #2 wide receiver?

[yupchagee]

The number of offensive plays without a #2 wide receiver? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Zero.

In all fairness, there are a few near the goal line.

Yes, but how does a team get to the opposing goal line without a legal offensive formation, which requires a #2 wide receiver?

There is no rule about having 2 WR's on the team, however I agree that you need 2 on most plays. I was just pointing out that there are a FEW plays when there is only 1 on the field.

[fredp45]

We need Alberts from Va to play LG now. I'd let Kendall be our first interior reserve. He can play any of the 3 interior positions and do it without needing lots of time to adjust. To think Kendall can play another 16 games without injury at his age, is crazy. Let Alberts start the year at RG (and hopefully be there for 12 years) and give Kendall another year on his contract and tell him we want him as our first interior OL off the bench for the next two years. He would be a super sub and having vets as your subs is a nice luxary to have. We now have Fabini, Wade & Hoyer as our three other subs...our OL would be set.

2nd round -- best player available at SDE or CB. We don't need a WDE as we have two already in Carter and Wilson. We need a replacement for Daniels sooner than later.

WR's all need to mature and get ready to play in the NFL -- even early picks! I'd try to find a vet that wouldn't break the bank and could tide us over. Maybe someone will be cut. The Jags might cut Matt Jones...

[CanesSkins26]

We need Alberts from Va to play LG now.

Let Alberts start the year at RG (and hopefully be there for 12 years) and give Kendall another year on his contract and tell him we want him as our first interior OL off the bench for the next two years.

Wow, Albers must really be a stud if he can play two offensive line positions at the same time.

There is a reason why guards aren't usually taken in the first round and that's because they can usually be had in the later rounds. It's also not exactly the brightest idea to spend a first round pick on depth when we are in need of starters at other positions (wr, dline, maybe safety).

WR's all need to mature and get ready to play in the NFL -- even early picks! I'd try to find a vet that wouldn't break the bank and could tide us over. Maybe someone will be cut. The Jags might cut Matt Jones.

Not exactly true. Bowe was a rookie last season and performed far better than any of our receivers.

So your suggestion is just to ignore wide receiver and hope that someone decent is cut post June 1? Yea, that's a brilliant idea. That's exactly the type of thinking that has gotten this team into trouble in the past.

In case people still haven't notice, the NFL is becoming a pass-oriented league. We have a young qb that is going to be in yet another new system and to be effective he needs weapons to throw to. ey was the only consistent receiving threat that we had last season and Moss is somewhat of an unknown heading into this season after two very ordinary seasons. ARE did such a remarkable job as a starter that he is being moved into the slot this year. We've made some bad moves at wr in recent years and the position is in serious need of an upgrade.

[VetSkinsFan]

We need Alberts from Va to play LG now.

Let Alberts start the year at RG (and hopefully be there for 12 years) and give Kendall another year on his contract and tell him we want him as our first interior OL off the bench for the next two years.

Wow, Albers must really be a stud if he can play two offensive line positions at the same time.

There is a reason why guards aren't usually taken in the first round and that's because they can usually be had in the later rounds. It's also not exactly the brightest idea to spend a first round pick on depth when we are in need of starters at other positions (wr, dline, maybe safety).

WR's all need to mature and get ready to play in the NFL -- even early picks! I'd try to find a vet that wouldn't break the bank and could tide us over. Maybe someone will be cut. The Jags might cut Matt Jones.

Not exactly true. Bowe was a rookie last season and performed far better than any of our receivers.

So your suggestion is just to ignore wide receiver and hope that someone decent is cut post June 1? Yea, that's a brilliant idea. That's exactly the type of thinking that has gotten this team into trouble in the past.

In case people still haven't notice, the NFL is becoming a pass-oriented league. We have a young qb that is going to be in yet another new system and to be effective he needs weapons to throw to. ey was the only consistent receiving threat that we had last season and Moss is somewhat of an unknown heading into this season after two very ordinary seasons. ARE did such a remarkable job as a starter that he is being moved into the slot this year. We've made some bad moves at wr in recent years and the position is in serious need of an upgrade.

I'd more consider ARE to be moved to play his strengths than demoted to slot as you put it. With Lloyd on the roster last year with high hopes, I don't think ARE was being considered the starting #2 wideout. Granted it's all speculation, but that's the way I saw it. Since Zorn said he wants to give Mix a chance, has anyone considered that THERE'S where Zorn's trying to go?

[frankcal20]

I would hope so. It would be nice to see Mix come in and make a name for himself in Camp. We all remember the plays he made on Special Teams but now he needs to do it on the offensive side of the ball. This is where working with Jason will really pay off. Santana, Chris, and ARE need to be out there too working with Jason. I would like to see them have the timing down like Collins did at the end of the year.

[CanesSkins26]

I'd more consider ARE to be moved to play his strengths than demoted to slot as you put it.

My point is that had he been an effective #2 receiver he wouldn't be moved. He obviously wasn't a fit for the #2 roll last season .

With Lloyd on the roster last year with high hopes, I don't think ARE was being considered the starting #2 wideout.

I disagree. ARE was the #2 receiver for most of last season and I don't think that the Skins were planning on Lloyd being the #2 headed into last season.

Since Zorn said he wants to give Mix a chance, has anyone considered that THERE'S where Zorn's trying to go?

If that's the case then he has lost his mind. Mix has some potential but I hope that our new coach isn't counting on a receiver that has done nothing in college or the NFL to be a starting receiver for us.

[VetSkinsFan]

I'd more consider ARE to be moved to play his strengths than demoted to slot as you put it.

My point is that had he been an effective #2 receiver he wouldn't be moved. He obviously wasn't a fit for the #2 roll last season .

With Lloyd on the roster last year with high hopes, I don't think ARE was being considered the starting #2 wideout.

I disagree. ARE was the #2 receiver for most of last season and I don't think that the Skins were planning on Lloyd being the #2 headed into last season.

Since Zorn said he wants to give Mix a chance, has anyone considered that THERE'S where Zorn's trying to go?

If that's the case then he has lost his mind. Mix has some potential but I hope that our new coach isn't counting on a receiver that has done nothing in college or the NFL to be a starting receiver for us.

I don't think ARE was brought in with the initial concept of being #2, I think it was more a situation of circumstance that he ended up there.

I'm of the mindset that Zorn is more qualified than any of us armchair QBs and until he gives us proof otherwise, it should be "In Zorn We Trust." What other option do we really have? Terminally pessimistic isn't the way I like to be.

[yupchagee]

I'd more consider ARE to be moved to play his strengths than demoted to slot as you put it.

My point is that had he been an effective #2 receiver he wouldn't be moved. He obviously wasn't a fit for the #2 roll last season .

With Lloyd on the roster last year with high hopes, I don't think ARE was being considered the starting #2 wideout.

I disagree. ARE was the #2 receiver for most of last season and I don't think that the Skins were planning on Lloyd being the #2 headed into last season.

Since Zorn said he wants to give Mix a chance, has anyone considered that THERE'S where Zorn's trying to go?

If that's the case then he has lost his mind. Mix has some potential but I hope that our new coach isn't counting on a receiver that has done nothing in college or the NFL to be a starting receiver for us.

Gibbs stated that ARE was the #2 WR in camp last yr. The only reason Loyd wasn't cut midseason was the cap hit.

[CanesSkins26]

I don't think ARE was brought in with the initial concept of being #2, I think it was more a situation of circumstance that he ended up there.

I would agree with you that initially ARE wasn't brought in to be the #2. However, he quickly took over that roll due to the problems with Lloyd. The team knew last offseason that ARE was going to the be #2 and didn't do anything to address that. Now a year later all that the team has done is decide to move ARE into the slot, but the #2 spot still hasn't been taken care of. If you look at our roster, it's quite clear that we are in need of a starting capable receiver and a solid #4 that can contribute when called upon. Perhaps Mix can fill one of those rolls and maybe Zorn really sees something in him that he likes. But that doesn't change the fact that the WR position has been neglected for far too long and that it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to count on a guy like Mix, who was marginal in college and has done nothing in the NFL, to make any significant contributions. You give Mix a chance and if he lives up to expectations that's great, but counting on him to contribute is a risky and unnecessary gamble.

[SkinsFreak]

The fact that Caldwell signed with the Rams is not good. Canes is right on this one, our receiving core is really lacking depth at this point. Mix will get a chance and Mix will play, but that still only leaves us with Mix, Moss, ARE and Thrash. At this point, I don't think there's any doubt the Skins will draft a receiver. Anyone who thinks it takes a long time to groom a receiver doesn't understand football. A receiver can step in on day one and make an impact for a playoff caliber team, and there are numerous examples of that.

[skinsfan#33]

I feel much more comfortable at WR than I do at OG.

You do realize that if the season started today we would be starting Moss and Thrash? I don't think that there would be a worse #2 receiver in the entire NFL so I'm not sure how you can be comfortable with that. Zorn has already said that ARE is being moved into the slot. Even if we draft an OG in the first round (highly unlikely) Kendall will still be the starter this season unless he gets hurt.

Four teams come to mind right away that are worse at #2 then Thrash (or ARE): Philly, Vikes, Fins, Jags. Add San Fran, Bears, and Chawks. I'm sure there are a few more.

The Vikings proved if you have a really good OL and RB you can be competitive w/o a QB, WRs, or a D. Philly went to the NFC championship game 4 years strait w/o any WR's (who was their #1 by the way - oh yeah, Thrash) NE won four SB w/o WRs and lost one with the best group of WRs in the NFL. The Cards have one of the best group of WRs in the NFL - lots of good it did them.

If you have an dominant OL and a solid D you will win more games than you lose.

Cleveland got better this year mostly because of all the additions they have made to their OL.

If we lose Randy Thomas w/o adding another OG of his level it won't matter who we have playing WR - and the opposite is definitely not true of Moss. Moss would be a huge loss but not as much as RT. Recent Skins history proves that.

[yupchagee]

I feel much more comfortable at WR than I do at OG.

You do realize that if the season started today we would be starting Moss and Thrash? I don't think that there would be a worse #2 receiver in the entire NFL so I'm not sure how you can be comfortable with that. Zorn has already said that ARE is being moved into the slot. Even if we draft an OG in the first round (highly unlikely) Kendall will still be the starter this season unless he gets hurt.

Four teams come to mind right away that are worse at #2 then Thrash (or ARE): Philly, Vikes, Fins, Jags. Add San Fran, Bears, and Chawks. I'm sure there are a few more.

The Vikings proved if you have a really good OL and RB you can be competitive w/o a QB, WRs, or a D. Philly went to the NFC championship game 4 years strait w/o any WR's (who was their #1 by the way - oh yeah, Thrash) NE won four SB w/o WRs and lost one with the best group of WRs in the NFL. The Cards have one of the best group of WRs in the NFL - lots of good it did them.

If you have an dominant OL and a solid D you will win more games than you lose.

Cleveland got better this year mostly because of all the additions they have made to their OL.

If we lose Randy Thomas w/o adding another OG of his level it won't matter who we have playing WR - and the opposite is definitely not true of Moss. Moss would be a huge loss but not as much as RT. Recent Skins history proves that.

Let me sum this up: Backs get headlines, linemen win games.
That said, we need help at WR.

[skinsfan#33]

I feel much more comfortable at WR than I do at OG.

You do realize that if the season started today we would be starting Moss and Thrash? I don't think that there would be a worse #2 receiver in the entire NFL so I'm not sure how you can be comfortable with that. Zorn has already said that ARE is being moved into the slot. Even if we draft an OG in the first round (highly unlikely) Kendall will still be the starter this season unless he gets hurt.

Four teams come to mind right away that are worse at #2 then Thrash (or ARE): Philly, Vikes, Fins, Jags. Add San Fran, Bears, and Chawks. I'm sure there are a few more.

The Vikings proved if you have a really good OL and RB you can be competitive w/o a QB, WRs, or a D. Philly went to the NFC championship game 4 years strait w/o any WR's (who was their #1 by the way - oh yeah, Thrash) NE won four SB w/o WRs and lost one with the best group of WRs in the NFL. The Cards have one of the best group of WRs in the NFL - lots of good it did them.

If you have an dominant OL and a solid D you will win more games than you lose.

Cleveland got better this year mostly because of all the additions they have made to their OL.

If we lose Randy Thomas w/o adding another OG of his level it won't matter who we have playing WR - and the opposite is definitely not true of Moss. Moss would be a huge loss but not as much as RT. Recent Skins history proves that.

Let me sum this up: Backs get headlines, linemen win games.
That said, we need help at WR.

I don't disagree that we need another WR or two, but way down on the priority list.

Go through the history of the NFL and tell me how many championships were won because dominant OLs, defenses, or QBs. Once you run out of fingers and toes, tell me how many were won because of their WRs. I can think of only the 49ers, but Montana had two rings before Rice was ever drafted. I can't really think of any!

But we do need help there, when we get to it, if its on the second day of the draft, great! After June 1 cuts I'm fine with that too. After 53 man roster cuts - good w/that too.

[yupchagee]

I feel much more comfortable at WR than I do at OG.

You do realize that if the season started today we would be starting Moss and Thrash? I don't think that there would be a worse #2 receiver in the entire NFL so I'm not sure how you can be comfortable with that. Zorn has already said that ARE is being moved into the slot. Even if we draft an OG in the first round (highly unlikely) Kendall will still be the starter this season unless he gets hurt.

Four teams come to mind right away that are worse at #2 then Thrash (or ARE): Philly, Vikes, Fins, Jags. Add San Fran, Bears, and Chawks. I'm sure there are a few more.

The Vikings proved if you have a really good OL and RB you can be competitive w/o a QB, WRs, or a D. Philly went to the NFC championship game 4 years strait w/o any WR's (who was their #1 by the way - oh yeah, Thrash) NE won four SB w/o WRs and lost one with the best group of WRs in the NFL. The Cards have one of the best group of WRs in the NFL - lots of good it did them.

If you have an dominant OL and a solid D you will win more games than you lose.

Cleveland got better this year mostly because of all the additions they have made to their OL.

If we lose Randy Thomas w/o adding another OG of his level it won't matter who we have playing WR - and the opposite is definitely not true of Moss. Moss would be a huge loss but not as much as RT. Recent Skins history proves that.

Let me sum this up: Backs get headlines, linemen win games.
That said, we need help at WR.

I don't disagree that we need another WR or two, but way down on the priority list.

Go through the history of the NFL and tell me how many championships were won because dominant OLs, defenses, or QBs. Once you run out of fingers and toes, tell me how many were won because of their WRs. I can think of only the 49ers, but Montana had two rings before Rice was ever drafted. I can't really think of any!

But we do need help there, when we get to it, if its on the second day of the draft, great! After June 1 cuts I'm fine with that too. After 53 man roster cuts - good w/that too.

We need a starting WR & a backup guard. Draft starters 1st.

[CanesSkins26]

Four teams come to mind right away that are worse at #2 then Thrash (or ARE): Philly, Vikes, Fins, Jags. Add San Fran, Bears, and Chawks. I'm sure there are a few more.

In the last 4 season Thrash has had 9, 12, 14, and 17 receptions and a whopping 3 td's. He is 32 years old, has declining numbers, and isn't very effective. He is a great guy to have on the team, does an excellent job on special teams, and imho should be our punt returner over ARE. But he isn't a #2 receiver anymore. He used to be a solid receiver but at this point is basically a #5 guy that plays in emergency situations.

The Eagles have Reggie Brown as their #2. Last season he had 61 catches, 780 yards, and 4 td's. As many td's in one season as Thrash has had in his past 5 seasons combined. I would gladly take Brown over Thrash.

Now that the Jaguars have Jerry Porter, Reggie Williams (10 td's last season) becomes the #2. You would take Thrash over a guy that scores more td's by himself than all of our receivers last season?

The 49ers signed Bryant Johnson this offseason. He isn't All Pro, but he is certainly a very solid receiver. The last time that Thrash put up comparable numbers to his was 5 seasons ago in 2003.

The Vikings added Bernard Berrian in the offseason so their receivers will be better this season. Last year Bobby Wade had 54 catches, 647 yards, and 3 td's for them. They also had a rookie do well for them last season (Sidney Rice, 4 tds). I would take either over Thrash at this point.

I'm assuming that by "Chawks", you mean the Seahawks. They had 3 receivers all go for more than 600 yards last season and at least 4 td's. We didn't have a single receiver with 4. They might not have an individual stud such as a TO or a Chad Johnson, but Burleson, Engram, and Branche are all very solid NFL receivers and much more effective than James Thrash.

The Dolphins (not sure why we want to compare our wr situation to the worst team in the NFL) can also probably do better than Thrash as a #2. They signed Ernest Wilford this offseason and his numbers last season were 45 catches, 518 yards, and 3 td's. Not the best numbers, but once again I'll just point out that Thrash hasn't posted those types of numbers since 2003.

Of the teams that you mentioned, the only one that I think has a #2 receiver worse than Thrash is the Bears. They lost Muhammed and Berrian and gained Booker and Lloyd. So you're basically looking at Lloyd vs. Thrash.

If we lose Randy Thomas w/o adding another OG of his level it won't matter who we have playing WR - and the opposite is definitely not true of Moss. Moss would be a huge loss but not as much as RT. Recent Skins history proves that.

Nobody is saying that we don't need oline depth. Of course we do. But we don't need to spend a first round pick on an offensive lineman, let alone a guard. Good guards can be had in the middle rounds of a draft.

The Vikings proved if you have a really good OL and RB you can be competitive w/o a QB, WRs, or a D.

The Vikings didn't even make the playoffs. They also had a guy named Adrian Peterson that dominated the entire league.

NE won four SB w/o WRs and lost one with the best group of WRs in the NFL

New England won 3 Super Bowls, not 4. They also have a guy named Tom Brady as their quarterback. Perhaps you've heard of him?

Cleveland got better this year mostly because of all the additions they have made to their OL.

They also finally got solid quarterback play and got monster seasons from Braylon Edwards and Winslow.

The Cards have one of the best group of WRs in the NFL - lots of good it did them.

The Cardinals stink because of their defense, which gave up 330 yards and 25 points a game last season. Their offense and their receivers are what kept them in games last season.

[skinsfan#33]

I feel much more comfortable at WR than I do at OG.

You do realize that if the season started today we would be starting Moss and Thrash? I don't think that there would be a worse #2 receiver in the entire NFL so I'm not sure how you can be comfortable with that. Zorn has already said that ARE is being moved into the slot. Even if we draft an OG in the first round (highly unlikely) Kendall will still be the starter this season unless he gets hurt.

Four teams come to mind right away that are worse at #2 then Thrash (or ARE): Philly, Vikes, Fins, Jags. Add San Fran, Bears, and Chawks. I'm sure there are a few more.

The Vikings proved if you have a really good OL and RB you can be competitive w/o a QB, WRs, or a D. Philly went to the NFC championship game 4 years strait w/o any WR's (who was their #1 by the way - oh yeah, Thrash) NE won four SB w/o WRs and lost one with the best group of WRs in the NFL. The Cards have one of the best group of WRs in the NFL - lots of good it did them.

If you have an dominant OL and a solid D you will win more games than you lose.

Cleveland got better this year mostly because of all the additions they have made to their OL.

If we lose Randy Thomas w/o adding another OG of his level it won't matter who we have playing WR - and the opposite is definitely not true of Moss. Moss would be a huge loss but not as much as RT. Recent Skins history proves that.

Let me sum this up: Backs get headlines, linemen win games.
That said, we need help at WR.

I don't disagree that we need another WR or two, but way down on the priority list.

Go through the history of the NFL and tell me how many championships were won because dominant OLs, defenses, or QBs. Once you run out of fingers and toes, tell me how many were won because of their WRs. I can think of only the 49ers, but Montana had two rings before Rice was ever drafted. I can't really think of any!

But we do need help there, when we get to it, if its on the second day of the draft, great! After June 1 cuts I'm fine with that too. After 53 man roster cuts - good w/that too.

We need a starting WR & a backup guard. Draft starters 1st.

I guess this is a difference of opions. I think ARE is a better #2 than Kendal is a starting LG.
I think we need and desperately, a starting LG. Plus Alberts would give us depth at both tackle possitions and maybe C. He would give us a starting OG that we need and depth at almost every possition. (obviously that would force Kendal back into the starting line up if they were to move Alberts to fil in for another possition.

[skinsfan#33]

Four teams come to mind right away that are worse at #2 then Thrash (or ARE): Philly, Vikes, Fins, Jags. Add San Fran, Bears, and Chawks. I'm sure there are a few more.

In the last 4 season Thrash has had 9, 12, 14, and 17 receptions and a whopping 3 td's. He is 32 years old, has declining numbers, and isn't very effective. He is a great guy to have on the team, does an excellent job on special teams, and imho should be our punt returner over ARE. But he isn't a #2 receiver anymore. He used to be a solid receiver but at this point is basically a #5 guy that plays in emergency situations.

The Eagles have Reggie Brown as their #2. Last season he had 61 catches, 780 yards, and 4 td's. As many td's in one season as Thrash has had in his past 5 seasons combined. I would gladly take Brown over Thrash.

isn't he their #1

Now that the Jaguars have Jerry Porter, Reggie Williams (10 td's last season) becomes the #2. You would take Thrash over a guy that scores more td's by himself than all of our receivers last season?

forgot about them getting Porter, although I'm not a fan of him - will concede he (or Williams) is better than Thrash

The 49ers signed Bryant Johnson this offseason. He isn't All Pro, but he is certainly a very solid receiver. The last time that Thrash put up comparable numbers to his was 5 seasons ago in 2003.

won't he be their #1 if not who is?

The Vikings added Bernard Berrian in the offseason so their receivers will be better this season. Last year Bobby Wade had 54 catches, 647 yards, and 3 td's for them. They also had a rookie do well for them last season (Sidney Rice, 4 tds). I would take either over Thrash at this point.

I'm assuming that by "Chawks", you mean the Seahawks. They had 3 receivers all go for more than 600 yards last season and at least 4 td's. We didn't have a single receiver with 4. They might not have an individual stud such as a TO or a Chad Johnson, but Burleson, Engram, and Branche are all very solid NFL receivers and much more effective than James Thrash.

Look a don't know why Thrash didn't produce more than he did under Gibbs, but when he was forced into the #2 spot he was having a fantastic game before he got injured - proving he can still play.

If you go by stats - I don't have a leg to stand on supporting Thrash, but I think he will be much more productive as a #2 if forced into that spot under this new offense. Of course that is just a gut feeling.

Nobody is saying that we don't need oline depth. Of course we do. But we don't need to spend a first round pick on an offensive lineman, let alone a guard. Good guards can be had in the middle rounds of a draft.

We need a starter!

Alberts provides the option of being a starter or a backup at almost every possition.

The Vikings proved if you have a really good OL and RB you can be competitive w/o a QB, WRs, or a D.

The Vikings didn't even make the playoffs. They also had a guy named Adrian Peterson that dominated the entire league.

Yes, and both he and is running mate were studs because of the OL!

Cleveland got better this year mostly because of all the additions they have made to their OL.

They also finally got solid quarterback play and got monster seasons from Braylon Edwards and Winslow.

because of the improvements they made at OL

[CanesSkins26]

We need a starter!

Alberts provides the option of being a starter or a backup at almost every possition.

Who are you going to bench? There is no way that Kendall isn't starting for us next season unless he gets hurt.

I think ARE is a better #2 than Kendal is a starting LG.

But ARE isn't going to be the #2. Zorn, in his opening press conference, said that ARE was going to be moved into the slot. Therefore we need to find a #2.

I'm not disagreeing with you that we don't need oline help. I definitely think that we do, on both sides of the ball. If I had my way we'd come out of this draft with 2 offensive linemen and 2 defensive linemen. I just don't think we need to go oline in the first. Spend the first 2 rounds going after a receiver and a defensive lineman (doesn't matter which goes first), then start looking for oline help in the 3rd. I think that we are more likely to find an impact offensive linemen in the 3rd round than we are a wide receiver, especially if we are looking for a guard.

[SkinsFreak]

Go through the history of the NFL and tell me how many championships were won because dominant OLs,

If you're big on history, then chew on this a while. Since 2000, only 5 guards have been drafted in the 1st round, and in 3 of those years, no guards were selected in the 1st round at all. Everyone here agrees we need depth on the o-line, but history shows us that few teams ever waste a 1st round pick on a guard, and neither should the Skins. Great interior linemen can be had in the mid rounds, and historically, that's where the vast majority of them are selected.

[skinsfan#33]

We need a starter!

Alberts provides the option of being a starter or a backup at almost every possition.

Who are you going to bench? There is no way that Kendall isn't starting for us next season unless he gets hurt.

Off course it would be Kendall. he was average at best last year and at 35 isn't going to get better.

[VetSkinsFan]

We need a starter!

Alberts provides the option of being a starter or a backup at almost every possition.

Who are you going to bench? There is no way that Kendall isn't starting for us next season unless he gets hurt.

Off course it would be Kendall. he was average at best last year and at 35 isn't going to get better.

It irritates me that people can isolate players last season the way the line was decimated. The skins leaned on that side and so did the defenses. Would you really not stack the stable side if you were a D-coord last year vs the skins? Portis did still get 1262 yds(albeit 325 carries) and 47 receptions. and they ran predominately to the left. I don't think ProBowl Samuels was the only guy over there.....