I'm still trying to figure out how the Gints could open such huge holes in the second half. Somebody help me.
HEROHAMO wrote:Todd Collins for president.
crazyhorse1 wrote:What really worries me is that our D looked terrible against the ground game by the forth quarter. What will Peterson do to us? If we can't figure out how to plug a few holes we'll be in trouble.
KazooSkinsFan wrote:HEROHAMO wrote:Todd Collins for president.
Next year is 08, isn't it? For that great year I don't know about President, but I'll go with Todd Collins for backup!
riggofan wrote:crazyhorse1 wrote:What really worries me is that our D looked terrible against the ground game by the forth quarter. What will Peterson do to us? If we can't figure out how to plug a few holes we'll be in trouble.
But isn't that true when you play pretty much any running team? That's why teams try to run 20 times in the beginning of the game even if they're not gaining much ground. Waear the other team down for the fourth quarter, right?
Not really a big concern to me. I think most defenses would be pretty worn down after tackling that beast Jacobs 25 times.
Good win last night. I can't stand the Gnats. Also, I can't say enough how impressed I've been with Smoot over the last few weeks. He was great in coverage last night and even got in on some tackles! Burress must have 9 inches on him too.
welch wrote:
- Thinking about it, I think Manning had an unusual number of passes batted down or into the air. Someone with a statistical taste might look it up, but it seemed that way.
dmwc wrote:JCaptMorgan12 wrote:Several things I noted about tonight's game:
1. Landry is progressing quite nicely in his first season (better than I thought he would)
2. Doughty is filling in admirably
3. Heyer is better than people think (outside this Skins organization); he pretty much shut-down the Giants pass rush
4. Portis is nasty (reconfirmed) as a blocking back, and a RB
5. Torrence is terrible; he could have blown this game by himself, and I think any WR that matches up with him will have an easy day catching balls, as Landry gets to the guy Torrence is covering before Torrence does...
6. I think it shows that Gibbs trusts Collins more than Campbell (shown by passing the ball more with the lead, even though the Skins were running the ball well
1. Agree but think he is DROY... except for those dumb penalties he makes
2. Agreed
3. He had help tonite... LA was in alot... CS should have played a little better I think.
4. The best TOTAL RB, Betts did better today as well
5. He is terrible, hope he can improve
6. Might be right, but Collins has little cannon compared to JC, oh and JC has only 15 games, Collins has played since '97
The NYG dropped alot of balls and I almost felt sorry for EM. Good win!
crazyhorse1 wrote:Gibbs4Life wrote:We earned every inch of this win. All 3 phases. To me Reed is still a liability, so is Torrence, and God forbid we ever see Eubanks again. But give credit to the Defense as a whole especially SMOOT, O-line especially Heyer and Samuels! Portis and Betts and TODD he did what he had to do, and those long ones to Moss we're PRETTY. Todd no turnovers! Landry- your just a puppy but you've got a mean bark, LaCanforna called him "OverAgressive" Thank God you are agressive LL without you our secondary would be getting used and abused. H.B. Blades!!! I SEE YOU SHINNING!!! My heart was in my throat right down to the last tick of that clock, did anyone notice how much pass interference the gmen we're committing and yet no flags for us, I saw moss get clobberd waiting on a pass, but hey a win like this I'm gonna cherish in a season that has brought soo much pain, tonight I feel proud of my team. Everyone of em' they earned it.
What really worries me is that our D looked terrible against the ground game by the forth quarter. What will Peterson do to us? If we can't figure out how to plug a few holes we'll be in trouble. Daniels made 1 tackle. Who was playing beside him. Did we get a tackle from any tackle other than Montgomery?, who was a beast. He and Carter wreaked havoc but no one else on the DL showed up.
I'm still trying to figure out how the Gints could open such huge holes in the second half. Somebody help me.i
ey's PI was southern by-product of a northbound bull. Landry's taunting was the only stupid mistake the team made, but I saw a lot of uncalled PI on both teams.
Bob 0119 wrote:no holding penalties...refreshing!
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:NOTE: Joe Gibbs' Redskins are batting 1.000 in December for the second time in three years.
Who knew this HOF coach could still rally his guys to play hard?
Better yet, who ever doubted him?
Correction: 2-1 (.666) in December, so far. Still, pretty good.
Historically, Joe's teams have done better at the end of the season. His winning percentage rises each month. So there really is no reason to doubt that we would play better at this point.Mursilis wrote:REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:NOTE: Joe Gibbs' Redskins are batting 1.000 in December for the second time in three years.
Who knew this HOF coach could still rally his guys to play hard?
Better yet, who ever doubted him?
Correction: 2-1 (.666) in December, so far. Still, pretty good.
It's a 16-game season. Winning in December is irrelevant if a team blew games in Sept/Oct/Nov. Not trying to bash Gibbs here, but that "who ever doubted him" line is just silly.
Andre Carter wrote:Damn man, you know your football.
VetSkinsFan wrote:I don't recall seeing Golsten play last nite... was he inactive?
xhadow wrote:Ok I know its talked about a lot on the Gameday Threads but can someone please explain to me why we implement a Prevent Offense every single time we have the lead. I think I speak for everyone here when I say, after we are up by 10 or more you can predict our plays as if someone stole the answers to a pop quiz.
Does anyone know if this is a gibbs thing a saunders thing or a our players can't execute thing... I absolutely hate being scared if we can hold on to win during the middle of the 3rd quarter because I know that we have stopped trying to score points completely.
xhadow wrote:Ok I know its talked about a lot on the Gameday Threads but can someone please explain to me why we implement a Prevent Offense every single time we have the lead. I think I speak for everyone here when I say, after we are up by 10 or more you can predict our plays as if someone stole the answers to a pop quiz.
Does anyone know if this is a gibbs thing a saunders thing or a our players can't execute thing... I absolutely hate being scared if we can hold on to win during the middle of the 3rd quarter because I know that we have stopped trying to score points completely.
JSPB22 wrote:Historically, Joe's teams have done better at the end of the season. His winning percentage rises each month. So there really is no reason to doubt that we would play better at this point.Mursilis wrote:REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:NOTE: Joe Gibbs' Redskins are batting 1.000 in December for the second time in three years.
Who knew this HOF coach could still rally his guys to play hard?
Better yet, who ever doubted him?
Correction: 2-1 (.666) in December, so far. Still, pretty good.
It's a 16-game season. Winning in December is irrelevant if a team blew games in Sept/Oct/Nov. Not trying to bash Gibbs here, but that "who ever doubted him" line is just silly.
xhadow wrote:Ok I know its talked about a lot on the Gameday Threads but can someone please explain to me why we implement a Prevent Offense every single time we have the lead. I think I speak for everyone here when I say, after we are up by 10 or more you can predict our plays as if someone stole the answers to a pop quiz.
Does anyone know if this is a gibbs thing a saunders thing or a our players can't execute thing... I absolutely hate being scared if we can hold on to win during the middle of the 3rd quarter because I know that we have stopped trying to score points completely.
Bob 0119 wrote:xhadow wrote:Ok I know its talked about a lot on the Gameday Threads but can someone please explain to me why we implement a Prevent Offense every single time we have the lead. I think I speak for everyone here when I say, after we are up by 10 or more you can predict our plays as if someone stole the answers to a pop quiz.
Does anyone know if this is a gibbs thing a saunders thing or a our players can't execute thing... I absolutely hate being scared if we can hold on to win during the middle of the 3rd quarter because I know that we have stopped trying to score points completely.
The theory for using the run when you’ve got a large lead (7 points or more) is to accomplish two things. Limit turnovers and burn clock.
Passing not only risks a turnover, but if the ball is incomplete, it stops the clock. If you come out and throw three incompletions, you’ve barely burned up any time, and now you have to punt. If you run three running plays, and don’t make the first down, you still have to punt, but you’ve also burned up 2-3 minutes of game clock (40 seconds of play clock x 3 downs + length of time of each play). You generally want to keep your runner away from the sidelines, because the clock stops if he gets knocked out of bounds.
That’s the theory anyway. It’s not just a JG or AS thing, it’s pretty common with most teams (except maybe the Patriots who can and usually do, score at will).
The only thing that are unique to JG and AS about this kind of clock management offense, is that most teams wait until the fourth quarter to use it, while we seem to start doing it from the opening drive of the third quarter.
