Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:50 pm
sch1977 wrote:I got a 90! I missed the all-time passer also.
Ug, Joey T...
Ug, Joey T...
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Ug, Joey T...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:28 pm
PulpExposure wrote:sch1977 wrote:I got a 90! I missed the all-time passer also.
Ug, Joey T...
Just remember, Joey had a much more complete cast supporting him than Sonny... including one of the most devastating offensive lines in history... huge advantage. I sit and imagine the devastation Sonny would have wrought on that same team...
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:33 pm
welch wrote:For some bonus questions:
- What Notre Dame star-spangled QB replaced Little Eddie LaBaron whenthe Eddie decide to retire?
- What third-string QB did GP Marshall offer to Browns for Bobby Mitchell, so he coukd tell Shirley Povich (hats off when we mention that name!) that the Redskins would have a Black player if the Browns would just co-operate/
- Who played DE opposite all-pro Gene Brito?
- What DT of that era was famous for wearing his shirt oulled out. Also was a darn good DT.
Looks Like no one else decided to take your challenge so I'll take you on.
You know that I know 1, 2 & 4. #3 was a little tough but here goes.
1. Ralph Gugliemi.
2. M. C. Reynolds (you should remember how I knew this one).
3. I'll through out Bob Dee and/or Ed Kayat ( Bob's borther).
4. "Mean" John Paluck (He was good).
10/10 with some hints in the thread on the quiz. Is that cheating?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:17 pm
80
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:15 am
Well, I got a 100%
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:01 am
80%. Guess that's enough to retain my dignity.
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:44 am
UK Skins Fan wrote:80%. Guess that's enough to retain my dignity.
I was at 80% as well. I don't think any Skins fans should feel bad about missing the stadium question.
I guessed Sonny Jurgensen for the quarterback question, and seeing that I was wrong prompted me to investigate. It turns out that their stats (in games played for the Redskins) are quite close:
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player passing yds Y/A TDs INTs
Joe Theismann 25206 7.0 160 138
Sonny Jurgensen 22585 7.2 179 116
Theismann, of course, had his career cut a bit short due to injury, and Sonny played 7 seasons in Philly before coming to Washington and giving us those stats.
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:35 pm
Theismann, of course, had his career cut a bit short due to injury, and Sonny played 7 seasons in Philly before coming to Washington and giving us those stats.
I don't know that I agree with the premise that Joey T's career was cut short. He was really starting to struggle to be effective by that time. I think he was about cooked, and would not have remained the starter for much longer anyway.
Those who watched and enjoyed both, I think, probably agree. Jurgensen was the better quarterback. Both had roughly equivalent sets of receivers... ***though Taylor and Mitchell were better at YAC***... It would have been a true thrill to watch him set up behind the hogs. Nobody ever made quicker reads, or saw the field better than Jurgensen, and with the kind of time the Hogs would have provided, stretched even more by that incredible ball control running game... that would have been simply unfair to defenses.... man, what a thing of beauty. Coulda, woulda, shoulda... no matter, they were both fun to watch...
*** which then raises the question... "how much better would Charlie Taylor and Bobby Mitchell have been with the Gibbs teams of the 80's, forcing defenses to put 8 in the box much more than they wanted?"
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:12 am
andyjens89 wrote:I missed the stadium one....
Same here... Not too bad I guess....
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:27 am
Countertrey wrote:I don't know that I agree with the premise that Joey T's career was cut short. He was really starting to struggle to be effective by that time. I think he was about cooked, and would not have remained the starter for much longer anyway.
That's fine. Since I couldn't witness those seasons I only have numbers to go off of. As usual, they don't tell the whole story.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:49 am
Irn-Bru wrote:Countertrey wrote:I don't know that I agree with the premise that Joey T's career was cut short. He was really starting to struggle to be effective by that time. I think he was about cooked, and would not have remained the starter for much longer anyway.
That's fine. Since I couldn't witness those seasons I only have numbers to go off of. As usual, they don't tell the whole story.
Understood. It's like any QB who is dependent upon his mobility for his effectiveness... Joey T's legs were a big part of his game. As he became less mobile, he became less effective.
Of course, a compound fracture will only add to one's mobility woes...
I do remember LT jumping up, frantically waving for the trainers to get on the field, and putting his hands to his head... and I remember MNF replaying the "moment" multiple times. shudder!Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:30 pm
Countertrey wrote:Theismann, of course, had his career cut a bit short due to injury, and Sonny played 7 seasons in Philly before coming to Washington and giving us those stats.
I don't know that I agree with the premise that Joey T's career was cut short. He was really starting to struggle to be effective by that time. I think he was about cooked, and would not have remained the starter for much longer anyway.
I don't know about Joey T getting benched by Gibbs. Did you see that #8 guy the last 3 years? As loyal as Gibbs is to old washed up QBs, Joey T might have still been playing in SB XXII!
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:48 pm
It's too bad the team failed to make the playoffs during Brunel's time as a starter
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:04 pm
Fios wrote:It's too bad the team failed to make the playoffs during Brunel's time as a starter
Doesn't change the fact that he has look like a dead man walking for much of the past three years. To say he played well the year the did make the play offs is a bit of a stretch!
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:24 pm
If, at that time, Joey T were playing well enough to get our team into SB XXII I doubt anyone would have been calling him washed up, don't you think?Joey T might have still been playing in SB XXII!
Besides, Gibbs had confidence in his Gibbs selected and groomed back up QB... this is the rest story of that infamous game, and season...
Schroeder, who had played in only three games and thrown eight passes in his career, led the Redskins to a 23-21 victory, completing 13 of 21 passes for 221 yards and a touchdown. He went on to lead the team to five victories in the last six games and a 10-6 record that still wasn't good enough to make the playoffs.
Until last year, MB's back up was a shell shocked young man who had been horribly abused and probably ruined by the previous "old ball coach". To me, it looks like apples and oranges...
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:25 pm
skinsfan#33 wrote:Fios wrote:It's too bad the team failed to make the playoffs during Brunel's time as a starter
Doesn't change the fact that he has look like a dead man walking for much of the past three years. To say he played well the year the did make the play offs is a bit of a stretch!
I disagree, but I'm going to guess that stats and normal arguments won't make much headway here. How anyone can think that the team won in '05 despite Brunell is beyond me.
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:49 am
Irn-Bru wrote:skinsfan#33 wrote:Fios wrote:It's too bad the team failed to make the playoffs during Brunell's time as a starter
Doesn't change the fact that he has look like a dead man walking for much of the past three years. To say he played well the year the did make the play offs is a bit of a stretch!
I disagree, but I'm going to guess that stats and normal arguments won't make much headway here. How anyone can think that the team won in '05 despite Brunell is beyond me.
Amen ... this is another of those "debates" I grow tired of having
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:49 am
Irn-Bru wrote:skinsfan#33 wrote:Fios wrote:It's too bad the team failed to make the playoffs during Brunel's time as a starter
Doesn't change the fact that he has look like a dead man walking for much of the past three years. To say he played well the year the did make the play offs is a bit of a stretch!
I disagree, but I'm going to guess that stats and normal arguments won't make much headway here. How anyone can think that the team won in '05 despite Brunell is beyond me.
Stats sure wouldn't help you convince me and even though they should, I'm sure they won't convince you. Hey MB, after the first 5 quarter he played in 05, played the first half fairly well, but the second half he was just horrid.
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:19 am
Winner of the Chuck Drazenevich Trophy for Dedication to the Redskins Through Even the Worst Times:
SCSkinsFan (who gets an extra point...see below)
- What Notre Dame star-spangled QB replaced Little Eddie LaBaron when Eddie decide to retire?
1. Ralph Gugliemi. Yes! "The Goog".
- What third-string QB did GP Marshall offer to Browns for Bobby Mitchell, so he could tell Shirley Povich (hats off when we mention that name!) that the Redskins would have a Black player if the Browns would just co-operate.
2. M. C. Reynolds (you should remember how I knew this one).
Yes!
- Who played DE opposite all-pro Gene Brito?
3. I'll throw out Bob Dee and/or Ed Kayat ( Bob's borther).
Yes again, although I was thinking of someone else, but both played DE opposite Brito for a couple of seasons. Very obscure players, especially since Don Dee played only two seasons with the Skins, and about seven or eight seasons with the Boston Patriots.
(Extra point! We'll add the Sam Baker Award.)
Checking the rosters, I saw that Chet Ostowski also played DE most seasons that Bito played. I didn't remember the name until I checked rosters...then it came back to me.
Can't tell who started most years
- What DT of that era was famous for wearing his shirt oulled out. Also was a darn good DT. [Questioner loses points for ambiguous question.]
4. "Mean" John Paluck (He was good).
Yes again, although Mean John Paluck played mostly at DE, as best I remember. He's the one I remember as the counter-side to Gene Brito. However, Paluck played '56, then did military service, and returned for '59...after Brito had moved on.
I was thinking of Joe Rutgens, who never had his jersy tucked in except maybe for the team photo. I remember (oh, youthful memories!) that Rutgens started the game with his jersey out...a large mid-section, I will call it...and Paluck was so tough that oppposing linemen had pulled it out before any game hit halftime.
Mean John and Big Joe (yes, there was another one) were the foundation rock DL in the early '60's.
Sorry, but it's too early in the morning to look up he right spelling of Chuck Drazenevich's name.
SCSkinsFan (who gets an extra point...see below)
- What Notre Dame star-spangled QB replaced Little Eddie LaBaron when Eddie decide to retire?
1. Ralph Gugliemi. Yes! "The Goog".
- What third-string QB did GP Marshall offer to Browns for Bobby Mitchell, so he could tell Shirley Povich (hats off when we mention that name!) that the Redskins would have a Black player if the Browns would just co-operate.
2. M. C. Reynolds (you should remember how I knew this one).
Yes!
- Who played DE opposite all-pro Gene Brito?
3. I'll throw out Bob Dee and/or Ed Kayat ( Bob's borther).
Yes again, although I was thinking of someone else, but both played DE opposite Brito for a couple of seasons. Very obscure players, especially since Don Dee played only two seasons with the Skins, and about seven or eight seasons with the Boston Patriots.
(Extra point! We'll add the Sam Baker Award.)
Checking the rosters, I saw that Chet Ostowski also played DE most seasons that Bito played. I didn't remember the name until I checked rosters...then it came back to me.
Can't tell who started most years
- What DT of that era was famous for wearing his shirt oulled out. Also was a darn good DT. [Questioner loses points for ambiguous question.]
4. "Mean" John Paluck (He was good).
Yes again, although Mean John Paluck played mostly at DE, as best I remember. He's the one I remember as the counter-side to Gene Brito. However, Paluck played '56, then did military service, and returned for '59...after Brito had moved on.
I was thinking of Joe Rutgens, who never had his jersy tucked in except maybe for the team photo. I remember (oh, youthful memories!) that Rutgens started the game with his jersey out...a large mid-section, I will call it...and Paluck was so tough that oppposing linemen had pulled it out before any game hit halftime.
Mean John and Big Joe (yes, there was another one) were the foundation rock DL in the early '60's.
Sorry, but it's too early in the morning to look up he right spelling of Chuck Drazenevich's name.
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:19 pm
The test is way too difficult. Who are the main accomplishments of Art Monk and Larry Brown?
And Byrd Stadium? What a laugh!
And Byrd Stadium? What a laugh!
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 11:12 am
I got 90 % not bad... I screwed up the Statium Question.. I'll take 9 out of 10. I wish I did that well I High School.
Semper Paratus
Go Skins
Semper Paratus
Go Skins
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 2:32 am
If a foreigner like me gets 90 then anyone of you Americans getting less should be ashamed of yourselves
(I misssed Joe T as well but then is gaining yards a better QB stat or how many times you put it in the end zone)
(I misssed Joe T as well but then is gaining yards a better QB stat or how many times you put it in the end zone)
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:56 pm
90%
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:06 pm
welch wrote:Winner of the Chuck Drazenevich Trophy for Dedication to the Redskins Through Even the Worst Times:
SCSkinsFan (who gets an extra point...see below)
- What Notre Dame star-spangled QB replaced Little Eddie LaBaron when Eddie decide to retire?
1. Ralph Gugliemi. Yes! "The Goog".
- What third-string QB did GP Marshall offer to Browns for Bobby Mitchell, so he could tell Shirley Povich (hats off when we mention that name!) that the Redskins would have a Black player if the Browns would just co-operate.
2. M. C. Reynolds (you should remember how I knew this one).
Yes!
- Who played DE opposite all-pro Gene Brito?
3. I'll throw out Bob Dee and/or Ed Kayat ( Bob's borther).
Yes again, although I was thinking of someone else, but both played DE opposite Brito for a couple of seasons. Very obscure players, especially since Don Dee played only two seasons with the Skins, and about seven or eight seasons with the Boston Patriots.
(Extra point! We'll add the Sam Baker Award.)
Checking the rosters, I saw that Chet Ostowski also played DE most seasons that Bito played. I didn't remember the name until I checked rosters...then it came back to me.
Can't tell who started most years
- What DT of that era was famous for wearing his shirt oulled out. Also was a darn good DT. [Questioner loses points for ambiguous question.]
4. "Mean" John Paluck (He was good).
Yes again, although Mean John Paluck played mostly at DE, as best I remember. He's the one I remember as the counter-side to Gene Brito. However, Paluck played '56, then did military service, and returned for '59...after Brito had moved on.
I was thinking of Joe Rutgens, who never had his jersy tucked in except maybe for the team photo. I remember (oh, youthful memories!) that Rutgens started the game with his jersey out...a large mid-section, I will call it...and Paluck was so tough that oppposing linemen had pulled it out before any game hit halftime.
Mean John and Big Joe (yes, there was another one) were the foundation rock DL in the early '60's.
Sorry, but it's too early in the morning to look up he right spelling of Chuck Drazenevich's name.
Welch,
Thanks for the Props (and check your PM). I did a little furhter checking and found the following on Chuck for those of us that remember him.
Charles M. Drazenovich (August 7, 1927 - February 1992) is a former American Football linebacker who played his entire ten year career with the Washington Redskins from 1950 to 1959 in the National Football League.
Position(s) linebacker
College Penn State
NFL Draft 1949 / Round 9
Pro Bowls 4
1950-1959 Washington Redskins
And I also found this on Chet Ostrowski:
Chester Casmir Ostrowski (April 8, 1930 - October 10, 2001) was an American football end in the NFL for the Washington Redskins. He played college football for the University of Notre Dame.
Position(s) End
College Notre Dame
Team(s)
1954-1959 Washington Redskins
So, along with Bob Dee and Ed Khayat, they would have been, or could have been the DE's who played the most years opposite of Gene Brito befor ethe Skins traded him to the Rams.
For anyone who wants to look up info on anyone who has ever played for, or will be playing for the Skins, you check out this link on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wa ... ns_players
This award and these invaluable pieces of knoweldge will guarantee me my cup of coffee at work in the morning.