CP has Knee issues

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri May 18, 2007 1:20 pm

I don't have a link yet :twisted:

but it was just reported that Dr James Andrews indicated that "upon further review" Portis has much stronger knees and his tendons are in better shape than most other NFL players including a C. Bailey who despite the knee and tendon concerns is still with the Broncos as of this report.

BnGhog · Post by **BnGhog** » Fri May 18, 2007 1:42 pm

I also found this on Web MD

http://arthritis.webmd.com/understandin ... tis-basics

"Most tendinitis heals in about two weeks, but chronic tendinitis can take more than six weeks, often because the sufferer doesn't give the tendon time to heal."

It it heals in like two to three weeks like it says, we will be fine.

SkinsFreak · Post by **SkinsFreak** » Fri May 18, 2007 1:49 pm

HanburgerHelper wrote:SkinsJock/frankcal20 cited:

The tendonitis in his knee flared up last week. It is not considered serious.

I read this too. Big whoop. Don't believe everything you read in print. Tendonitis is what it is. You can downplay it but it is degenerative. It won't heal like a surgically repaired knee. That's the nature of it. I'm certain this will shorten his career to some degree or affect his play, especially if he comes back too soon.

Like I said, they had better sit Portis through most of the preseason if this condition is real. I happen to believe, however, that a lot of reported injuries in the NFL are completely false, meant to throw off oponents' schemes. Not saying that this is the case here, but it's possible. I think Tom Brady's shoulder was reported "probable" on a weekly basis the past two years by Bellichick. Portis also might want a medical excuse to skip camp and preseason to avoid another serious injury and to get more time to rehab his shoulder.

frankcal20 wrote:

...Now from what I know about this (I've had 4 knee operations on my left knee 3 ACL's and 4 meniscus) is that its about strengthening the muscles around the effected tendon...

False analogy. ACL etc is different than tendonitis. The key to understand is that this weakens your muscles. This as a bunch of micro tears in the tendons. There's nothing surgically you can do to repair it. Your body and rest may work given enough time, but if Portis tries to do training camp this summer, his years left are numbered. This can lead to an arthritic condition too or be a sign of one.

You don't regain the same strength in your tendons either. I don't care if you are superman and you have a team of doctors working around the clock from Johns Hopkins. Look up the treatment for this condition. Don't take my word for it.

I find it suspcious that tendonitis wouldn't be considered serious. They're either downplaying this or it's a "made-up" injury.

Sorry my friend, but this is simply not accurate. I have tendonitis in my left elbow, so I can speak from personal experience; from both having the condition and having it treated from an orthopedic surgeon.

Tendonitis CAN be repaired surgically. However, the surgery is fairly rare these days do to the FACT that is can be remedied with basic physical therapy. Tendonitis come and goes, but as I've learned with mine, physical therapy, a simple exercise routine geared specifically for the elbow, in my case, along with activities such as golf, all serve well in limiting the effects of tendonitis.

In Portis’ case, I wouldn’t be too worried. He’ll be fine and I’m sure they’ll give him the rest he needs or desires.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:04 pm

DEHog wrote:Bailey's knees are fine

Ryan O’Halleran at The Washington Times reports that Portis developed patella tendinitis in the knee and sat out practice Wednesday and Thursday. Portis is rehabilitating his shoulder and hand after injuries suffered last season. His tendinitis is a new issue.

“He had some soreness in the knee, but he described that he could run and work out on it and it would be fine the next day,” coach Joe Gibbs said. “This week, it bothered him after the workout day so we decided to have it looked at.”

Portis can treat his injury with therapy, unlike LaVar Arrington whose arthroscopic surgery on his lateral meniscus tear in his right knee ended his effectiveness. According to Redskins trainer Bubba Tyer,
“He has to get some therapy, strengthen his quadriceps, stretch his hamstring and he’ll be fine.”

Tyer wouldn’t say which of Portis’ knees was affected, or how long he would miss practice.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Fri May 18, 2007 3:45 pm

Where did all the haters go? :lol:

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Fri May 18, 2007 5:29 pm

I hate everything

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Fri May 18, 2007 7:57 pm

Tendonitis isn't arthritis, Hanburger. It isn't a chronic degenerative condition.

It literally is inflammation of the tendon. And it will subside and regress with RICE therapy; Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation.

It just needs some time to go away.

jeremyroyce · Post by **jeremyroyce** » Fri May 18, 2007 9:51 pm

Redskins Rule wrote:I think we should just trade Portis!! His value is still high right now and trading him would really help this team! We can then talk Tiki Barber out of retirement and................Superbowl champs!

Tiki Fumble Barber? No thanks.

El Mexican · Post by **El Mexican** » Sat May 19, 2007 10:43 am

Ask yourself this: why would Gibbs disclose this information at this point of the preseason?

He either wants:

a) Let all the fans know CP will not participate in any preaseson games
b) Let everyone know tha competition for starting RB is now open
c) Throw everyone off about a so called "invented" injury

I´m going with either a or b.

Gibbs has demostrated again he´s a very astute man. By giving this to the press he is reducing the pressure about CP return and making it completely natural to see LB as a starter by opening day.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat May 19, 2007 11:36 am

Given that CP is the better RB and that I presume he will be ready to play because he will have had enough time between now and then to be ready to play - I would really be surprised if Gibbs did not have him in there on opening day.

I do agree that there is more to the "reports" about this "issue" but I think Portis will be the starting RB AND that he and Betts will be really good for Campbell and our offensive success this season.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat May 19, 2007 2:04 pm

El Mexican wrote:Ask yourself this: why would Gibbs disclose this information at this point of the preseason?

I did...
Because if he had waited until mini-camp starts and Portis wrist and shoulder have healed, yet he's not particapating in team drill Fat Lenny or another hack would have writen a article about CP being un-happy about __insert whatever here__ and is not working out with the team. Gibbs would then sound like he's making something up on the fly or lying to the public in some kind of way.

That's what I came up with but I'll look at these options anyway.

a) Let all the fans know CP will not participate in any preaseson games

He'll play in at least the last 1 or 2, so that can't be it

b) Let everyone know tha competition for starting RB is now open

I think he would have just come out and said that...

c) Throw everyone off about a so called "invented" injury

It's May it would only throw off the fans, Joe wouldn't do that.

El Mexican wrote:I´m going with either a or b.

Gibbs has demostrated again he´s a very astute man. By giving this to the press he is reducing the pressure about CP return and making it completely natural to see LB as a starter by opening day.

Wouldn't he have to come right out and say that or face explaining the change as the season approached, it would be better to come out with it and deal with it now. Wouldn't it?

El Mexican · Post by **El Mexican** » Sat May 19, 2007 5:52 pm

Thats exactly the point, Inksider.

This announcement is political as well as medical.

I'm with you on all your explanatiosn, except one. I don´t think Gibbs will risk CP in the preseason as he did last year after what he disclosed. It would backfire harshly against him.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat May 19, 2007 6:05 pm

El Mexican wrote:I'm with you on all your explanatiosn, except one. I don´t think Gibbs will risk CP in the preseason as he did last year after what he disclosed. It would backfire harshly against him.

Clinton hasn't played at game speed in awhile and Gibbs will want to get him in there with the first team if only for continuity, so I'm thinking the next to last preseason game (starters only play about a quarter), and the last one (when the starters will only see a series or two)

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sat May 19, 2007 6:19 pm

Could it be possible that this injury is a fake so that we can hold Portis out of preseason without looking like we're showing favoritism?

RedRiver · Post by **RedRiver** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:19 am

Ladell will have a bigger part in this season by sharing some of the workload with CP and contributing with more game time.

Redskins Rule · Post by **Redskins Rule** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:51 am

jeremyroyce wrote:
Redskins Rule wrote:I think we should just trade Portis!! His value is still high right now and trading him would really help this team! We can then talk Tiki Barber out of retirement and................Superbowl champs!

Tiki Fumble Barber? No thanks.

It was just a joke................don't lose no sleep over it because you and I both know Gibbs would laugh at somethng like that. Okay Okay, he would 'cackle' at something like that and then move on to the next question.