aswas71788 wrote:Do you think we could get one of the Redskin cheerleaders to play left guard? Just think of all the yardage we would get for holding penalties!!!
Dude... come on, that's just ridicules. Because if that happened, getting Campbell to line up under center would be extremely difficult. Also, Portis would never go for another gap... in the line.
actually i think he would hit the gap and be more north/south...haha
Even though he excelled at safety he would fill the hole at left guard. In fact replace our whole offensive line with the draft picks we picked up. Sartz at Left tackle, Blades as center. Yeah that would be a great idea.
some of you guys are taking it a lil too far. No one said stick him at corner I said give him a try. Why not? What could it hurt? As a coach that what is part of your job is to put people in the best situation for them and the team. If its safety then cool but it definitely wouldn't hurt to get him a few snaps at cornerback early on before the season starts to see where he is now would it? Wasn't Brian Mitchell a quarterback in college?
If it sounds crazy please give me an explaination why not some no-brain response and I can accept that.
Its all about making your team you have the best it can be.
mastdark81 wrote:He's fast enough. Why not test him at this position early camp to see what he can do.
Maybe then the pick would be worth something
so then we couldn't throw blitzes at the offense and have carlos and smoot benched? perfect
Wasn't Smoot benched in Minnesota and Carlos horrible last year? Do you remember? Everyone read my post again and read where it says "TEST" and come back at me when you comprehend.
1) The team doesn't need corners, it has them
2) He is not a corner, he is a safety, that is where his value lies. Transitioning someone who played safety in college to corner in the NFL is quite a leap for someone of Landry's skill set
3) The entire secondary struggled last year, along with Carlos
4) Landry isn't going to play corner, why stunt his development as a safety with an experiment that doesn't help the defense?
5) It's a bad idea
Fios wrote:1) The team doesn't need corners, it has them 2) He is not a corner, he is a safety, that is where his value lies. Transitioning someone who played safety in college to corner in the NFL is quite a leap for someone of Landry's skill set 3) The entire secondary struggled last year, along with Carlos 4) Landry isn't going to play corner, why stunt his development as a safety with an experiment that doesn't help the defense? 5) It's a bad idea
Fios wrote:1) The team doesn't need corners, it has them 2) He is not a corner, he is a safety, that is where his value lies. Transitioning someone who played safety in college to corner in the NFL is quite a leap for someone of Landry's skill set 3) The entire secondary struggled last year, along with Carlos 4) Landry isn't going to play corner, why stunt his development as a safety with an experiment that doesn't help the defense? 5) It's a bad idea
While you nailed it, I predict this doesn't end it
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Fios wrote:1) The team doesn't need corners, it has them 2) He is not a corner, he is a safety, that is where his value lies. Transitioning someone who played safety in college to corner in the NFL is quite a leap for someone of Landry's skill set 3) The entire secondary struggled last year, along with Carlos 4) Landry isn't going to play corner, why stunt his development as a safety with an experiment that doesn't help the defense? 5) It's a bad idea
Once again I said TEST him at cornerback and see if he can fit. If not great, we already know he is decent at safety. But with his speed and size why not try?
As you say our cb's struggled last year and yeah we do have a gang of cb's but don't we have a gang of safeties too? So why draft safety if thats your logic? Didn't say put him through the whole training camp at corner. It may only need a few snaps to see him get burned by Moss or something but why not take that, it wouldn't stunt his growth at safety if he actually does have "value and skills" like you say.
You sound like a Redskins scout that have seen this guy play every position. How do you know that he wouldn't help the D at this spot or any other spot? I DO NOT know and it could be a mistake but I would definitely eye it...instead of being ignorant to the prospect of him playing it.
Thanks for replying with a reasonable response I do respect that.
Our corners struggled last year because Springs was injured and we had absolutely no quality depth. This year, Springs should be back, and we've added Smoot and Macklin. We don't need to try Landry at corner.
On the other hand, if he turns out to be a great all-round safety, then he could be just the player to help out our corners both by assisting deep in centre field, and by blitzing and putting the qb on his backside.
To simply "test" him at corner would involve more than just letting him run around for a couple of days, and seeing how he goes. He'll need to be schooled, coached and drilled in a new position. Then we'd probably need to take a look at him in a preseason game. All that is valuable time wasted, when he could have been getting some solid work in, in an attempt to start at safety from week one.
He won't be a starting corner for us, but he could help this team straight away at safety.
1niksder wrote:If you draft a safety #6 you play him at safety
One would think, but the idea of having a first-round pick switch to a position he's never played before is not without precedent. I know Jax is currently doing it with Matt Jones, a former QB drafted to play WR because he had some silly-fast 40 time and he's 6'6". Of course, his numbers so far aren't as good as one would expect from a first round WR, so I don't know if I'd call the Jones expirament a success yet. There may be others, but I'm not recalling them now. As for Landry, leave him at safety. There's no good reason to make him switch.
1niksder wrote:If you draft a safety #6 you play him at safety
One would think, but the idea of having a first-round pick switch to a position he's never played before is not without precedent. I know Jax is currently doing it with Matt Jones, a former QB drafted to play WR because he had some silly-fast 40 time and he's 6'6". Of course, his numbers so far aren't as good as one would expect from a first round WR, so I don't know if I'd call the Jones expirament a success yet. There may be others, but I'm not recalling them now. As for Landry, leave him at safety. There's no good reason to make him switch.
A lot of QBs will switch postitions after being drafted but not those drafted in the first round.
As far as Matt Jones goes, I've said it before and I'll say it again. He'll be a TE in a few years.
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1niksder wrote:If you draft a safety #6 you play him at safety
One would think, but the idea of having a first-round pick switch to a position he's never played before is not without precedent. I know Jax is currently doing it with Matt Jones, a former QB drafted to play WR because he had some silly-fast 40 time and he's 6'6". Of course, his numbers so far aren't as good as one would expect from a first round WR, so I don't know if I'd call the Jones expirament a success yet. There may be others, but I'm not recalling them now. As for Landry, leave him at safety. There's no good reason to make him switch.
A lot of QBs will switch postitions after being drafted but not those drafted in the first round.
As far as Matt Jones goes, I've said it before and I'll say it again. He'll be a TE in a few years.
Jones was first round - #21, according to NFL.com.
1niksder wrote:If you draft a safety #6 you play him at safety
One would think, but the idea of having a first-round pick switch to a position he's never played before is not without precedent. I know Jax is currently doing it with Matt Jones, a former QB drafted to play WR because he had some silly-fast 40 time and he's 6'6". Of course, his numbers so far aren't as good as one would expect from a first round WR, so I don't know if I'd call the Jones expirament a success yet. There may be others, but I'm not recalling them now. As for Landry, leave him at safety. There's no good reason to make him switch.
Yes, but Jones to Landry is an apples and oranges comparison.
Landry played Safety, and was drafted to play Safety. Jones was a QB, but no one in their right mind would draft him to play QB. He worked out as a WR, from the Senior Bowl on up, knowing that WR was the position that he'd be playing in the NFL.
1niksder wrote:If you draft a safety #6 you play him at safety
One would think, but the idea of having a first-round pick switch to a position he's never played before is not without precedent. I know Jax is currently doing it with Matt Jones, a former QB drafted to play WR because he had some silly-fast 40 time and he's 6'6". Of course, his numbers so far aren't as good as one would expect from a first round WR, so I don't know if I'd call the Jones expirament a success yet. There may be others, but I'm not recalling them now. As for Landry, leave him at safety. There's no good reason to make him switch.
Yes, but Jones to Landry is an apples and oranges comparison.
Landry played Safety, and was drafted to play Safety. Jones was a QB, but no one in their right mind would draft him to play QB. He worked out as a WR, from the Senior Bowl on up, knowing that WR was the position that he'd be playing in the NFL.
I understand all that regarding Jones; it was certainly no secret before the draft he was switching to WR. I only mentioned him because it's one of very rare cases (only one? I'm not sure) of a highly-drafted player switching to a completely new position in the pros. I'm certainly not and have never been in favor of switching Landry, however.
welch wrote:Hoping Smoot becomes Smoot again. I have some doubts about Carlos R.
Either way, Landry stays at safety. From the descriptions, he is better than Sean Taylor.
This is a big year for Carlos. Good rookie year, struggled as a sophomore. Often happens, but now he needs to really bounce back and take a big step forward or his days are numbered.
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welch wrote:Hoping Smoot becomes Smoot again. I have some doubts about Carlos R.
Either way, Landry stays at safety. From the descriptions, he is better than Sean Taylor.
This is a big year for Carlos. Good rookie year, struggled as a sophomore. Often happens, but now he needs to really bounce back and take a big step forward or his days are numbered.
I hope Carlos bounces back as well. I really hope GW lets him play the line of schrimmage more, a lot more bumping the recievers at the line of schrimmage. He is stronger than most recievers out there so we have to hope they utilize his strengths. He has decent speed, but if he can get a good bump on the recievers it will help negate the speed of a speedster type reciever.
I am sure they will allow Rogers to be more physical this year with Taylor and Landry behind him. Which plays more to Carlos Rogers type of game.
I still remember that kick return when he lit up the opposing player. Maybe he can become a Jack Tatum or Lester Hayes type cornerback who just mauled the recievers at the line and smothered recivers.
Dude... come on, that's just ridicules. Because if that happened, getting Campbell to line up under center would be extremely difficult. Also, Portis would never go for another gap... in the line.
