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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:24 pm
by Irn-Bru
Fios wrote:REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Cappster wrote:I still have never heard of FAUX news!
Sure you have. Isn't that what the Daily Show is all about?? I liked it more back in the days of Craig Kilborn, though.
1) The Daily Show is parody, as such it does not claim to be a source of news
2) You have poor taste in comedy if you think Kilborn is better than Stewart
Yes, but at least Kilborn could get away from the George Bush jokes (well, politics, that is to say) every now and then. Jon Stewart is admirable in the very narrow scope of his activity, but it would certainly be a better show overall if he wasn't shooting ducks in a barrel all day.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:41 am
by KazooSkinsFan
Irn-Bru wrote:Fios wrote:REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Cappster wrote:I still have never heard of FAUX news!
Sure you have. Isn't that what the Daily Show is all about?? I liked it more back in the days of Craig Kilborn, though.
1) The Daily Show is parody, as such it does not claim to be a source of news
2) You have poor taste in comedy if you think Kilborn is better than Stewart
Yes, but at least Kilborn could get away from the George Bush jokes (well, politics, that is to say) every now and then. Jon Stewart is admirable in the very narrow scope of his activity, but it would certainly be a better show overall if he wasn't shooting ducks in a barrel all day.
Ironically, before the 2004 election that's why I liked Jon Stewart. He was lib but he made fun of EVERYONE. That's all I ask. One of the funniest was a year before the election where he put of a graphic mocking the Democratic candidates and then put up the election night graphic saying "The Daily Show now projects George W Bush as the winner."
That they ended up losing to such a horrible candidate mired in incompetency an inept communications shows how insightful the projection of the loss at that point was. It's the one sidedness that's dull. The point I keep making on FoxNews too, they don't dominate news because they are Right but because unlike the rest of the Left media they present both. Libs are on Fox all day long. Reps on any of the others are noteworthy. All you hear on CNN, MS-NoBodyCares, CBS, ABC, NBC all day long is the left telling you what the left thinks about the events of the day.
When you're all right or all left all the time, you have immediately cut the pool you draw your audience from in half (or less).
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:10 am
by Irn-Bru
I don't care if his only political remarks are against Republicans; they deserve every jab they get. I don't mind political one-sidedness because news always has bias. It doesn't bother me that everything is aimed at conservatives; it bothers me that he can't get off of political satire.
I just wish he would give some semblance of effort at being funny without being a one-trick pony. Surely there are other jokes to be made?
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:25 am
by KazooSkinsFan
Irn-Bru wrote:I don't care if his only political remarks are against Republicans; they deserve every jab they get. I don't mind political one-sidedness because news always has bias. It doesn't bother me that everything is aimed at conservatives; it bothers me that he can't get off of political satire.
I just wish he would give some semblance of effort at being funny without being a one-trick pony. Surely there are other jokes to be made?
In theory I agree what we are saying is not the same, but I think in practicality it is. In theory humor could be funny picking on only one side. The practicality is I never hear anyone from either side who starts by intending to be funny and pick on only one side and really be that because they fall into just attacking the other.
Like Jon Stewart, he was funny when he picked on both even though he picked on Republicans more. When it became a cause for him to "make fun of" Republicans you are pointing out the effect of the one sided "humor."
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:33 am
by Fios
Irn-Bru wrote:I don't care if his only political remarks are against Republicans; they deserve every jab they get. I don't mind political one-sidedness because news always has bias. It doesn't bother me that everything is aimed at conservatives; it bothers me that he can't get off of political satire.
I just wish he would give some semblance of effort at being funny without being a one-trick pony. Surely there are other jokes to be made?
How often do you watch the Daily Show?
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:03 pm
by Irn-Bru
Fios wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:I don't care if his only political remarks are against Republicans; they deserve every jab they get. I don't mind political one-sidedness because news always has bias. It doesn't bother me that everything is aimed at conservatives; it bothers me that he can't get off of political satire.
I just wish he would give some semblance of effort at being funny without being a one-trick pony. Surely there are other jokes to be made?
How often do you watch the Daily Show?
On and off for a few years going back to the late 90's. I will readily admit that I haven't seen more than 7 or 8 out of the last 50+ shows, so I'd also be ready to admit that I'm simply wrong. But since I've mostly lost interest in the show, this is the tired complaint that I'm left with
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:45 pm
by Fios
Irn-Bru wrote:Fios wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:I don't care if his only political remarks are against Republicans; they deserve every jab they get. I don't mind political one-sidedness because news always has bias. It doesn't bother me that everything is aimed at conservatives; it bothers me that he can't get off of political satire.
I just wish he would give some semblance of effort at being funny without being a one-trick pony. Surely there are other jokes to be made?
How often do you watch the Daily Show?
On and off for a few years going back to the late 90's. I will readily admit that I haven't seen more than 7 or 8 out of the last 50+ shows, so I'd also be ready to admit that I'm simply wrong. But since I've mostly lost interest in the show, this is the tired complaint that I'm left with
Yeah, I'd say your criticism is a little off-base, they do touch on more subjects than just politics. That being said, the hyper-focus on said subject is understandable given the medium they work with. When one sets up a parody news show, one is forced to parody what's in the news. They still find the quirky pieces on a regular basis but calling them a one-trick pony isn't fair because 1) it isn't entirely accurate and 2) politics dominates the news landscape, their writers aren't left with much choice.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:25 pm
by JansenFan
John Stewart is a bigot. Oh wait, that's Imus.
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:25 pm
by KazooSkinsFan
JansenFan wrote:John Stewart is a bigot. Oh wait, that's Imus.
Wasn't that Rush? No wait, he's a druggy. Was Imus the studio voyeur? Or that was Sterns. How are we supposed to track all this?
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:51 am
by Irn-Bru
KazooSkinsFan wrote:JansenFan wrote:John Stewart is a bigot. Oh wait, that's Imus.
Wasn't that Rush? No wait, he's a druggy. Was Imus the studio voyeur? Or that was Sterns. How are we supposed to track all this?
Easy: Stern made a little over
300 million last year; Rush made about
30 million; and Imus is about to lose his job.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:57 am
by jazzskins
I'm clearly in the wrong line of work! I think even Crazyhorse would do what Rush does for $30 million per year!
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:05 am
by KazooSkinsFan
Irn-Bru wrote:KazooSkinsFan wrote:JansenFan wrote:John Stewart is a bigot. Oh wait, that's Imus.
Wasn't that Rush? No wait, he's a druggy. Was Imus the studio voyeur? Or that was Sterns. How are we supposed to track all this?
Easy: Stern made a little over
300 million last year; Rush made about
30 million; and Imus is about to lose his job.
Barely over 300 million, only 308.