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Re: Coming to America

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:00 pm
by nuskins
JansenFan wrote:
"David Beckham will have a greater impact on soccer in America than any athlete has ever had on a sport globally," said Timothy J. Leiweke, president & CEO of Anschutz Entertainment Group, which owns the Galaxy. "David is truly the only individual that can build the bridge between soccer in America and the rest of the world."



:puke:

OK, so this sackbag quoted above thinks that a primadonna "has been" is going to have a greater impact on soccer than the greatest player of all time?

Pele came here and played in the 70's and didn't do much for the sport then so I doubt goldilocks can do any better.

The only impact he is going to have on America is the overexploitation of his wifes fake knockers on every grocery checkout isle across the nation!

I have no problem with him coming here to play or making all that money, I'd do the same. But to pass this guy off as the saviour of American soccer is nauseating.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:05 pm
by UK Skins Fan
Just don't blame it on Beckham - it's not his fault that they say such nonsense about him.

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:09 pm
by Fios
UK Skins Fan wrote:Just don't blame it on Beckham - it's not his fault that they say such nonsense about him.


Precisely, that's called PR spin to offer a justification for such a large investment, they would be foolish if they failed to oversell this

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:15 pm
by UK Skins Fan
Be warned though - by the end of the year, you'll all be up to your necks in David Beckham hair care products and underwear.

I myself am the proud owner of a complete set of Victoria Beckham voodoo dolls.

(Not really)
(I couldn't afford them all)

Re: Coming to America

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:03 pm
by redskins12287
nuskins wrote:
JansenFan wrote:
"David Beckham will have a greater impact on soccer in America than any athlete has ever had on a sport globally," said Timothy J. Leiweke, president & CEO of Anschutz Entertainment Group, which owns the Galaxy. "David is truly the only individual that can build the bridge between soccer in America and the rest of the world."



:puke:

OK, so this sackbag quoted above thinks that a primadonna "has been" is going to have a greater impact on soccer than the greatest player of all time?

Pele came here and played in the 70's and didn't do much for the sport then so I doubt goldilocks can do any better.

The only impact he is going to have on America is the overexploitation of his wifes fake knockers on every grocery checkout isle across the nation!

I have no problem with him coming here to play or making all that money, I'd do the same. But to pass this guy off as the saviour of American soccer is nauseating.


Your're right, soccer in the United States hasn't changed since the 1970s. Although you clearly have no grasp of the cultural aspect surronding David Beckham, you have to admit the sport has become more popular here than it was in the 70s, and the past few years it has seen a significant incease in popularity.

It would be hard to find anyone that does not know who David Beckham is, and in a year, it will be unheard of for someone to still be unaware of who he is. No one knew who Pele was, and no one cared, things are a little different with Beckham.

People are very excitied about his coming here. If anyone can take American soccer to the next level, David Beckham can.

Re: Coming to America

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:07 am
by BearSkins
redskins12287 wrote:Your're right, soccer in the United States hasn't changed since the 1970s. Although you clearly have no grasp of the cultural aspect surronding David Beckham, you have to admit the sport has become more popular here than it was in the 70s, and the past few years it has seen a significant incease in popularity.


I really do hope he can drag US football to a higher level. As an expatraite Scot who had a season ticket for his local fitba' team (who played in colours similar to the Skins :) ) for 15 years I have to say I really miss watching it. I have tried watching MLS on TV but it is a terrible level and unexciting - I tend to avoid it now rather than watch at all. Having said that, I never liked those skilful guys like Beckham anyway. They always cared more for their hair than getting stuck in about the opposition. I preferred the hard-nosed, blood and guts, sleeves-rolled-up types that gave 100%. That has continued into my appreciation for NFL players also - I much prefer MLBs, tough-as-teak FBs and TEs to these poncey WRs with crocodile arms.

Re: Coming to America

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:27 am
by nuskins
redskins12287 wrote:
Your're right, soccer in the United States hasn't changed since the 1970s. Although you clearly have no grasp of the cultural aspect surronding David Beckham, you have to admit the sport has become more popular here than it was in the 70s, and the past few years it has seen a significant incease in popularity.



People are very excitied about his coming here. If anyone can take American soccer to the next level, David Beckham can.


I never said that soccer has not changed since the 70's, only that Pele did not have a signifcant impact on the sport in that era. Obviously soccer, along with just about every thing else, has evolved since the 70's in this country.

I watch Euro football whenever I can and know what Beckham is and what he isn't. Maybe if tabloid press is your idea of promoting the sport then yes he will have an impact but in terms of a player elevating the sport in this country through talent I think there are better players in the world to do it than Beckham.

You completely lost me on "you clearly have no grasp of the cultural aspect surrounding David Beckham"? Does this mean cultural aspect of tabloid fodder or is white anglo European culture something lacking in this country that he is going to promote?

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:47 pm
by redskins12287
What I meant by the "cultural aspect" is Beckham's image. This is not about skill or talent, this is about the image of David Beckham and the influence it will have on the United States and it's soccer fans. Of course there are better players in Europe who could come over, but Beckham is the man for the job. Everyone knows who he is, everyone loves him, most soccer fans at some level respect him.

Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:36 pm
by nuskins
Ahhemmmm....true to form the exploitation of Posh's fake ta-ta's is set to begin!

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/nbc-confirms-it-giving-victoria-beckham-own-reality-series-4785.php

Let the tabloid frenzy begin!

I am going to stick my finger down my throat now.
:puke:

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:18 pm
by UK Skins Fan
"For the past few years, I've been inundated with requests to make a show based on Victoria's real life. After much thought, we have finally decided to do it," said Fuller, who prior to becoming Victoria Beckman's personal manager, also managed the Spice Girls during the peak of their success.

ROTFALMAO You hear that? This is by popular demand! You're getting this because you've been asking for it so much. ROTFALMAO

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:16 pm
by Cappster
We are being invaded by the British again. American Idol, the Beckham's, what's next? Robbie Williams?

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:17 pm
by Fios
Hey, British music is still good ... The Arctic Monkeys album is really, really good

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:04 am
by UK Skins Fan
Fios wrote:Hey, British music is still good ... The Arctic Monkeys album is really, really good
Can I suggest you give Kaiser Chiefs a try?

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:08 am
by UK Skins Fan
Cappster wrote:We are being invaded by the British again. American Idol, the Beckham's, what's next? Robbie Williams?

Robbie will never make it in the States - he's too short. Anyway, what's wrong with us sending you our cultural dead wood from time to time? God knows, we've had quite enough of yours.

Robbie's OK though - not a great artist, but a really good performer.

As for Beckham? Bless him, he still thinks he might play for England again.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:06 am
by Fios
UK Skins Fan wrote:
Fios wrote:Hey, British music is still good ... The Arctic Monkeys album is really, really good
Can I suggest you give Kaiser Chiefs a try?


Will do, any particular album?

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:18 pm
by UK Skins Fan
Fios wrote:
UK Skins Fan wrote:
Fios wrote:Hey, British music is still good ... The Arctic Monkeys album is really, really good
Can I suggest you give Kaiser Chiefs a try?


Will do, any particular album?

Only two to choose from. Debut album "Employment", and recently released second album "Yours Truly, Angry Mob". Both great, IMO: Employment probably has the more instant appeal, whilst YTAM isn't quite as immediate - I've only just bought it myself, but I think the tunes will probably have more longevity in them.

But if I were you, I'd go for Employment first. One of the reasons I really like them is that they write good stuff about English themes - may not play so well over your side of the water, but the tunes are still great. My 2 cents

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:25 am
by JansenFan
What genre would they be considered?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:58 am
by Fios
JansenFan wrote:What genre would they be considered?


Rock and or roll

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:49 am
by JansenFan
Reminds me of the clash. Good stuff.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:57 pm
by UK Skins Fan
JansenFan wrote:Reminds me of the clash. Good stuff.

We aim to please. :wink: