Samuels Named To Pro Bowl

[Chris Luva Luva]

Make light all you want. If Chris did his job as well as Albright does his, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I honestly think that this is one of the WORST Pro Bowl decisions I've ever seen and just because the guy's a Redskin doesn't change that. I bet even Chris was uneasy with the selection.

It'd be nice if someone gave me a bonus and a trip to Hawaii every time I did a poor job.

Oh and RiC... cutting Chris Samuels is nearly impossible. His contract has been reworked and revamped so many times that there is just no economically viable option that involves him leaving the roster. It would cost us almost the same amount of money with or without him... so cutting him would still mean a huge cap number AND we wouldn't have a left tackle.

So at what point do you think we just cut or losses and move on? It seems like we're trying to patch a sinking ship and just delaying the inevitable...

I'm not talking about Chris only, but in regards to any of our restrictive contracts.

[KazooSkinsFan]

Sean should be in there over Roy.

Again.


I will make this same post in December 2007...

Sean makes great plays, but he's hurt us with penalties stupid decisions (like that fumble he picked up and fumbled almost costing us a game) and badly at times in the passing game. I don't know, does Roy do that?

[KazooSkinsFan]

Make light all you want. If Chris did his job as well as Albright does his, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I honestly think that this is one of the WORST Pro Bowl decisions I've ever seen and just because the guy's a Redskin doesn't change that. I bet even Chris was uneasy with the selection.

It'd be nice if someone gave me a bonus and a trip to Hawaii every time I did a poor job.

Oh and RiC... cutting Chris Samuels is nearly impossible. His contract has been reworked and revamped so many times that there is just no economically viable option that involves him leaving the roster. It would cost us almost the same amount of money with or without him... so cutting him would still mean a huge cap number AND we wouldn't have a left tackle.

I have to agree it's a questionable decision is going to the pro-bowl, but I can't agree it's one of the worst. He is like a lot of Redskins that he has had good and bad parts of the year, but as the O line has jelled he has been pretty dominating, especially in the run game.

Again, I am not saying it was a pro-bowl year, I think he had too many bad games too. But he can and has dominated others too to a pro-bowl level. In the end though, to really merit the pro-bowl you need to play most games at a pro-bowl level and I can't argue he has, but there have been far worse. At least he is pro-bowl calibre.

[skinsfan#33]

What in the heck did ey and Randel El do to deserve being named alternates? ey has dropped almost as many balls as T.O. and Randel El is really a threat at WR? Did he make it as special teams alternate?

Are you for real about your cooley comments? Maybe leading all tight ends (tied with Alge Crumpler) in catches over 20 yards and catches over 40 yards, 6th in TDs, 3rd in the NFC in yards, and 5th in the NFC in catches.
As far as dropping passes, he has not dropped near as many as TO, but both have a reason. To has a broken hand with a torn ligament and ey has a seperated shoulder.
I was shocked the Samuals made it. This is his third year in a row that he has made it on reputation alone. I mean how can you be the third best Ol on your team and make it to the PB. The only guys on offense that should have gone are Randy Thomas and Mike Sellers (what the hell did Max Strong or that fat Andrews guy from Philly do this year?)

[brad7686]

Samuels has only given up 4 sacks this year, that is better than any other year in his career except 2001. Granted, there are 2 games left. I think Samuels should go, but i think dockery and thomas also deserved consideration. Larry Allen is ancient. IF any tackle got in on reputation it is Walter Jones. He gave up 9.5 sacks so far! Get off your high horses.

[JPM36]

Sean should be in there over Roy.

Again.


I will make this same post in December 2007...

Sean makes great plays, but he's hurt us with penalties stupid decisions (like that fumble he picked up and fumbled almost costing us a game) and badly at times in the passing game. I don't know, does Roy do that?

Sean Taylor has more tackles than any defensive back in the NFC and, while he has made stupid plays, has been completely dominant at times. Roy can't get close enough to the guy with the ball to get penalized. And for some reason, even though the NFL implemented a new rule because of him, they don't call him for horse collars tackles. That could be one of the oddest things in sports history, really. The league puts in a new rule outlawing horse collar tackles, almost entirely because of Roy Williams breaking Terrell Owens's leg doing it 2 years ago, and yet Roy continues to horse collar people and never be called for it. I don't understand.


No secondary player in the NFL gets beat deep more than Roy Williams. Did you see the Cowboys-Saints game 2 weeks ago? He is a complete joke in coverage.

The funny thing is that Dallas actually has a GREAT secondary player (Terence Newman) who ISN'T going to Hawaii while that scrub Roy Williams goes every year.

And, what might be even funnier is that Roy Williams is NOT the worst safety going to Hawaii.

That distinction belongs to John Lynch, who was washed up about 3 years ago.

The Pro Bowl is a joke.

[SkinsJock]

When Roy Williams was drafted it was common knowledge that he was not going to be involved in covering passes because that was not what he could do. Never could, not going to!

I am really surprised at people criticizing Roy Williams' pass coverage. If you do not have this ability how can people criticize it? You cannot put somebody down or complain about what they do when they can not do it!

Asking Roy Williams to cover anyone is like expecting a Doberman to be a blind dog (pardon the pun about a dog!)



Now, about those horse collar tackles ...... He's an ass

[JPM36]

When Roy Williams was drafted it was common knowledge that he was not going to be involved in covering passes because that was not what he could do. Never could, not going to!

I am really surprised at people criticizing Roy Williams' pass coverage. If you do not have this ability how can people criticize it? You cannot put somebody down or complain about what they do when they can not do it!

Asking Roy Williams to cover anyone is like expecting a Doberman to be a blind dog (pardon the pun about a dog!)



Now, about those horse collar tackles ...... He's an ass

And for all the reasons you just said he is not a PRO BOWL safety.

I'm sorry but no secondary player belongs in the Pro Bowl if he can't cover anyone.

[SkinsJock]

I guess that is the whole point:

Williams does not belong on any sort of defense that might be against a QB who can pass.

Williams does not rate an award for being a good defender when part of that involves evaluating his pass defense.

The Pro-Bowl has no real meaning when players who obviously should be there are not and vice versa.

This has become a non-event - and is diminished even more with this puke on the "team".



This is almost like having a Hall of Fame without Monk

[RedskinsFreak]

Sean Taylor has more tackles than any defensive back in the NFC and, while he has made stupid plays, has been completely dominant at times.

Imagine how many more he'd have if he had used proper tackling technique for the first half of the season instead of trying to get on "Jacked Up" with those go-for-broke, they-work-half-the-time "kill shots."

[Jake]

Make light all you want. If Chris did his job as well as Albright does his, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I wasn't kidding. Albright's been the most consistent player the last 6 seasons.