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The way we won was INCREDIBLE, as will be Cambell starting next week, I can feel it.

[quote="Redskin in Canada"][quote="old-timer"] Brunell showed yet again that although he will not lose you many games he will not win you many either.


i agree with that statement!! He won't lose games or win them!! however mark should remain the starter until we are mathematically elimated from the playoff contention! he does give us the ebst chance to win i think? Great win now we got to get moss healthy!! go skins!! dallas sucks!!

AA has been punked in coverage at every opportunity; I still think that the Redskins have to make use of his skillset and get him closer to the line rather than back in coverage... but I'm all for subbing in Vincent when the strong safety is going to be asked to cover.

Bottom line is tha the Redskins defense played better today. They still didn't play great and gave up way too many big plays on crucial downs, but they were a lot more aggressive today. Gregg Williams called a completely different game today with his two cornerbacks finally in the lineup at the same time. They weren't all world in coverage themselves, but providing Williams with the confidence to call more blitzes allowed the defense to be much more aggressive today.

Neither side of the ball was great or seemed proficient to say the least, but this is a special rivalry with a lot of special games, and today was just another one of those for Redskins fans IMO.

B.Lloyd had a great game today... on and off the ball... but we'll get the skinny straight from Brandon himself on this week's show.

The nice thing about victories? They're all worth the same no matter how you come by them.

BOSS HOG YOU TRULY ARE THE MAN!!! Great post i agree with it all! what about mark should he remain the the starter until we are totally out of it? the skins are only a 1.5 gm back of the wild card!!

This game was lost by the Cowboys, honestly. From penalties, dropped passes to the o-line not blocking the left side on the field goal, wow.

Best part for me, was seeing Parcells interviewed in the post game. He looked like he wanted to cry.

Need a hug, Bill?

BossHog wrote:AA has been punked in coverage at every opportunity; I still think that the Redskins have to make use of his skillset and get him closer to the line rather than back in coverage... but I'm all for subbing in Vincent when the strong safety is going to be asked to cover.

And I think that's what Pierleau was supposed to be doing all along. That injury really meant AA had to play where he couldn't play...in the passing game.

Based on Parcells in Carolina Bill would prefer a kiss "look out here comes parcells!"



Kiss This billy boy!

If AA was brought in just to pretty much be an extra linebacker, then why did he recieve the biggest contact of any saftey in the history of professional football?

He sucks, and to think we could have kept Ryan Clark for so much less is beyond frustration...simply depressing.

redskins12287 wrote:If AA was brought in just to pretty much be an extra linebacker, then why did he recieve the biggest contact of any saftey in the history of professional football?

He sucks, and to think we could have kept Ryan Clark for so much less is beyond frustration...simply depressing.

Ryan Clark and Adam Archuleta are making the same $$$ this year. Don't know about next season yet. While I agree that Clark should have stayed, the "too much money" argument doesn't hold sway here, since Snyder has a way of configuring contracts that are deceiving to the media.

Irn-Bru wrote:

redskins12287 wrote:If AA was brought in just to pretty much be an extra linebacker, then why did he recieve the biggest contact of any saftey in the history of professional football?

He sucks, and to think we could have kept Ryan Clark for so much less is beyond frustration...simply depressing.

Ryan Clark and Adam Archuleta are making the same $$$ this year. Don't know about next season yet. While I agree that Clark should have stayed, the "too much money" argument doesn't hold sway here, since Snyder has a way of configuring contracts that are deceiving to the media.

He will definitely get his 10 million dollar bonus, that's guaranteed, and Clark signed a 4 year 7 million dollar deal, so they aren't making the same when you consider the bonus money.

Im glad we won, but Archuletta is a fraud.

Arch is a better tackler than clark, coverage however he is a few steps slow and isn't really the hammer I thought he'd be. I'm sure Cerrrato fixed his contract to where if he is (by our Coaching Staff) ruled a bust, then we can shed him and let Vincent assume the position...PLUS we will get Pierson P. back next year, or if we get to the playoffs we might have him for that right?

Good news...the Redskins won.

Bad news...the Redskins won.

I'm really glad to get the win, although they didn't really deserve it, but that means at least one more week of Brunell.

As for Novac, he still doesn't cut it. I mean really. Boss, you said he deserved to be the hero for kicking the game winner, especially our of his range. I disagree. He missed the game winner, only to be given a second chance unlike any I have ever seen before.

The Defense did look better, as was expected. I think that is mainly because of Williams being aggressive again.

We need to concentrate on both lines this off season. The Oline is spastic and the Dline can't do anything without help.

So I'll just take this win and be happy that it was against the Cowboys and hope for a better showing next week.

Let me just say these two things:

1) I loved the fact that the Redskins won today. My voice is still horse from the game!

2) That 15-yard face masking call against the Cowboys at the end of the game was complete B.S.. Looking at that play, that should have been a 5-yard penalty.

Regardless, I'll take it...and the win.

Oh! One final thought! I think it' safe to say that this game will be REPLAYED this week on the NFL Channel! Who's gonna watch it......DVR it....whatever like I am?!?!?!

I was watching the game at my house. My Dad had just flown in from Charlotte and at the end when Novak missed the kick I thought, we've lost again. I was really bummed and then they completed play after play. I just knew that VJack was going to nail it. My Dad is a Panthers fan and he said, "Have some faith. We blocked one last week." I didn't have any faith and they Troy Glory flew into the screen and pulled that ball out of the air. And good 'ol ST running the ball like he is CP or something. Man that was awsome. I didn't really care if we missed that kick because I was just so excited that we were still in the game. Novak hit the ball and somehow it just looked like it was going to vere right but it was like someone was keeping it to the left with all its mite. I love my skins. They need to do more but I just say that my biggest thanks go to Novak and James Thrash. They made this a big win for us today. Oh, and to T.O. also.

That was twice T.O. got caught napping today. First time got him a flag.

Ahem...for the record:


Mark Brunell is 3-1 against the Pies over the past two seasons!!!!


Based on that stat alone, he deserves the remain the starter until the wheels fall off.

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REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Ahem...for the record:


Mark Brunell is 3-1 against the Pies over the past two seasons!!!!


Based on that stat alone, he deserves the remain the starter until the wheels fall off.

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The wheels have been off for weeks, can't you see that? We got a BS win and all's good? WHATEVER

i was stunned at how non-horribly Jurassic Mark was playing for the first 2 or 3 quarters, and expressed my surprise at this to a friend i was watching the game with. she replied "well yeah, but that's only because he's had like 2 weeks to rest up". i think she hit the nail on the head there, i hadn't even thought about it.

and of course we all saw him basically go down the toilet late in the game.

cooley was a few yards past the defense on that TD, yet MB04 threw a ball that should have been intercepted. he threw another that literally bounced off a defender's face! even the deep completion to lloyd that was so bull-crappedly called back, that was badly underthrown, lloyd simply did a fantastic job adjusting and keeping the defender away.

he hit a lot more of those intermediate routes down the middle, and one could suggest that perhaps he's finally getting more comfortable with this offense. but he was clearly physically struggling later in the game.

i am absolutely THRILLED with how we stole this game from dallas in the same crazy way they usually steal games against us. i'm on an emotional high right now and intend to milk it. but it doesn't change anything about where i think this season is going, and my overall feelings about brunell.


if he can't even make it through a game after TWO WEEKS of rest, how can we hope for a decent performance from him week in and week out?

I am just going to enjoy this one. Heck Marcus Washington had a heck of a game. Also thank goodness for Taylor thinking like a champ and smell blood and went for it. Props to Novak as well he made up for the missed oppurtunity. The key is the fighting spirit was there never gave up and thats what it takes to win. Hoorah!

I have to say I'm always thrilled when the Skins win....especially against the Cowboys, even sweeter when we can steel one in dramatic fashion...shades of Moss's 2 TD's in Dallas last year.

Realistically however, the Cowboys beat themselves on this one, which usually doesn't happen, such as Roy Williams having a sure int bounce off his head. And penalties.....wow....third highest in team history? And a bunch of holding calls were inexplicably absent. They just about undressed Portis on that swing pass...no flag. Horrible officiating again this week. (That 15 yard face mask that proved to be the game winner could easily have been a five yarder, and an overtime loss considering how our D can't seem to shut anyone down when it really matters).

For the Skins, the basic problems remain, even with all of the 1st team defense on the field. Too many recievers getting behind the secondary. With 30 seconds to play....you give up a deep ball to a tight end? That's because we chose to rush 4, allowing the TE to get deep. And the lack of take aways (5) in 8 games is horrible.

Once again, we watched a team stuff the ball down our throats in the opening second half series, and again, with time running out at the end of the game. Had Owens not dropped a sure TD in the 3Q, this game might have ended like the Indy game.

The offensive line? What offensive line? 1st and goal and we get stuffed on 4 downs??? That is atrocious. Absolutely unacceptable lack of performance in a do or die game like this....and against the Cowboys no less!!!

Once again, Brunell shows signs of life, only to sqeak by with another lucky job saving win that he didn't do much to win personally. The TD to ey was all ey, and a late pass that should have been intercepted...along with two other sure int's. The stats could easily read Dallas 27, Wash 12 or worse...with Brunell throwing 3 Int's. Yes, it's time for a change at QB.

The good news?

To the defense's credit, they made enough plays to stay in the game, with Carter's big time run stuff for a loss, and the sack for a loss on the next play, taking dallas out of field goal range late in the game. That was huge, and saved the game.

Once again, Taylor proves to be an impact player who might ought to be put up close to roam the line of scrimmage and used like Lawrence Taylor on defense. I think it's a waste to have him at free safety when we need some impact play at the point of attack.

The good news is....someone is beggining to see what we the fans have been seeing all year....Archuleta is a liability, not an asset. Thank goodness we picked up TV....who shows he still has something left in the tank, and should be replacing Archuleta for the rest of the season. Or, maybe TV should be moved to free safety to utilize his better cover skills, and put ST at strong safety where he can serve to disrupt....blitz on pass and run.

In the final analysis, we got lucky. But to beat Philly next week, we'll need better play across the board.

Oh yes....I forgot one thing.

We should now rename Terrel Owens. He is no longer to be referred to as T.O.

His new name.......B. F. butta finga

(Just a fun little spoof artical for laughs).

Washington D.C.
Monday, November 6, 2006

In the most unlikely and miraculous fashion, the Washington Redskins defeated the Dallas Cowboys for the 3rd time in four games in what appeared to be a last-second loss turned into a win with no time remaining on the game clock.

It could be said that the Cowboys who deem themselves to be "America's Team" came up a little short against what might be considered "God's Team" given this miracle win in the face of certain defeat.

So many unlikely scenarios unfolded to be labeled random chance. This must be a case of destiny and divine intervention as a sure interception bounced off the head of Roy Williams. The last second block of a sure game winning field goal by a Redskin player just signed two weeks ago, and an amazing display of "never quit" by free safety Sean Taylor as he returned the blocked kick 30 yards to the Dallas 45, topped off by a 15 yard face mask penalty putting Washington in range for the game winning kick with zero time left on the game clock. The result....a 47 yard game winning field goal by Nick Novak who had just recently resigned with the team after kicker John Hall was placed on injured reserve. Remember Novak, the guy who made his NFL debut in Dallas on Monday night September 19, 2005 who kicked the game winning PAT, and provided a game saving tackle on the ensuing kickoff with time running out?

Could all of this be random chance....or are these signs of an unseen hand?

One thing is for sure. The superstar signing of Terrell Owens by the Dallas Cowboys this year might be just another blessing in disguise for the Washington Redskins.

After scoring a touchdown, T. O. used the football as a pillow and took a brief nap in the endzone....an obvious reference to media reports earlier in the week of Owens napping during team meetings. This selfish showboating display drew a flag, forcing a long kickoff allowing Washington good field position after the Dallas score. In typical T.O. fashion, his desire for attention outweighs the best interests of the team. Some things just never change, and Dallas knew what they were getting when they signed him. Or did they?

The frequent dropped passes of Terrell Owens this season , and several almost dropped passes demonstrates a lack of focus for a man who considers himself the best reciever in the game today, and more important than the game itself. Embarrassingly, Mr. Superstar T. O. dropped a sure touchdown on a perfect pass in the 3rd quarter today that would have been a back breaker for the Redskins.

In the end, the Redskins prevailed, winning 22-19, closing the gap between them and the Dallas Cowboys.

After the game, Terrell Owens took responsibility for the loss, saying he owed the Cowboys one. We agree. And from here on out, in Washington, DC at least, the great T.O. has a new and more appropriate nickname.

He will no longer be referred to as T. O. His new nickname will be N.T.F.B.F.

Nap Time for Butta Finga.

Goodnight, Nap Time.

I would like to know why everyone seems to think that the cowboys beat themselves yesterday????? If it hadn't been for them holding, pass interfering and tripping, we would have put atleast 1 to 3 touchdowns more on the board. It seems as though part of you MB haters want to see the Redskins win and lose at the same time. Thats not going to happen!! Enjoy the win and look forward to next week. We haven't enjoyed this kind of "success" for a long time against the cowgirls so enjoy it!!!!!!

Highlights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irkjhNMZDHg

If you want to smile like you did yesterday read this gameday thread from the IGN boards. These are young skins and cowboys fans and they're out of control.

http://boards.ign.com/football/b5105/130378321/p24

Awesome. This is good too:

http://theboysblog.com/2006/11/05/cowbo ... -thread-4/

Just like a year ago, it's great to see their glee turn to utter confusion and disbelief. This is my favorite (just after the block):

"3:07 pm CT 5 Nov 2006
sharkz: OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!OT!!!!!!!!!!!"