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DEHog wrote:Portis blocked Rice very well yesterday!!

Yes, the guy is a stud. I love watching that guy block guys TWICE his size.

Go Clinton!!!!

Robert Royal needs to be slapped for that play. Benched or even cut. After he does the ole' and Brunell fumbles, Royal stands there and doesn't even make an attempt to recover the ball. There's no excuse for that and many coaches would send him packing.

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Jake wrote:

John Manfreda wrote:If funbles aren't Chris's fault than how come its always Chris guy that forces the fumble.

So by that logic, Rice could line up as a linebacker on our right side and blast past Jansen who may already be blocking somebody and sack Brunell....

and it would be Samuels' fault?

Genius.

Do you ever watch the line of scrimmage? Just because a player is assigned to a certain position to start the game doesn't mean he is assigned to a person.

He could, but he didn't it was Samuels side. It was Rice beating Samuels, not him moving around. I watch the line of scrimmage and Rice always lined up against Samuels. Why do you like Samuels, he is greedy, he gives up a crap load of sacks, he rarely opens up holes for Portis to run through, he is just a flat out cancer. When we make big plays its always holding no. 60 repeat first down.

I can't believe I'm responding to this rubbish.

Why do you care why I like Samuels? I know you hate him and for stupid reasons.

It's clear you don't listen to anything I say when I point out facts on Samuels.

He is NOT selfish, does NOT give up a crap load of sacks, and did very well opening up holes for Portis last night.

A cancer? Dude, your post is friggin nuts.

I'm glad you are back to your negative ways. Now don't come back to the positive side when we start to win again.

And as far as penalties go, it's Dockery costing us yardage game in and game out. You really do need to pay attention to the line of scrimmage because it's apparent you have many disillusions when a Redskin game is on TV.

You're never going to learn. You exaggerate more than a woman.

He's not greedy, he wouldn't restructure at all when we were in cap trouble and never would take a pay cut to help out his team. Jansen is way better and took a pay cut. He gives up a lot of sacks like with Trevor Price and the no name guy from KC. He is the highest paid player in Redskin history. He does not play like it at all. He couldn't open up holes for Portis, it was always to the right side, or going behind Randy Thomas. If your going to be paid more than any other Redskin and not play like it, of course I am going to be negative.

John Manfreda wrote:He's not greedy, he wouldn't restructure at all when we were in cap trouble and never would take a pay cut to help out his team. Jansen is way better and took a pay cut. He gives up a lot of sacks like with Trevor Price and the no name guy from KC. He is the highest paid player in Redskin history. He does not play like it at all. He couldn't open up holes for Portis, it was always to the right side, or going behind Randy Thomas. If your going to be paid more than any other Redskin and not play like it, of course I am going to be negative.

Do some research, man.

- He has restructured TWICE.

- Samuels isn't the highest paid player. Portis makes over 50 million.

- Pryce did not even register a sack against us.

- And I watched the game. Plenty of those runs were on the left side.

Seriously, the internet is your friend. All of the info you need to make a smart, intelligent post is out there. All you have to do is look it up. It's not too hard.

Samuels had the largest signing bonus in Redskin history. After Portis contract and is consider a lifelong Redskin. He never restructered it, it was hell fitting him under the cap. Left side no they weren't. Do ur research Samuels has given up more sacks than anyone on this team and more qb pressures than any left tackel in our division. Probably more sacks, but I actually didn't look that up. He got owned by Simon Rice. He got owned by that guy on KC(a no namer). That fumble SAmuels was so mad he got beat when he saw the ball he didin't care because he is so selfish he had to hit the guy who beat him, instead of diving on the ball to recover the fumble on which he should have done. His run blocking was okay agianst Tampa that is because he is going up against Simon who is weak against the run. Against anyone else we can't run the ball to the left side for jack, because Samuels is such a terrible run blocker, well and pass blocker.

Skinsfan55 wrote:Here's an experiment...

-Hold a football in one hand ready to throw.

-Have a friend stand behind you where you cannot see them.

-Have that friend run at you at full speed and tackle you.

Did you hold onto the ball? No, and neither can Brunell. Is it his fault?

Not entirely, much if not all of the blame falls on Chris Samuels' shoulders.

It's become stylish to praise an offensive line endlessly in the media, but what about blame when they deserve it?

Chris Samuels has been the cause of many of these turnovers this season, he is SUPPOSED to be an elite player, and he's not. He's barely above average and he couldn't carry Jon Jansen's jock in a suitcase.

We need Ramsey in because Brunell was hurt this week, Ramsey is fresh and Jon Jansen is MUCH better at protecting a blindside.

This is so silly. Sorry, but what you describe here just doesn't make sense. As someone pointed out, Brunell is actually left handed and therefore it is Jansen who is blocking his blind side, not Samuels. If anyone is running free at Brunell's BACK, behind him where he cannot see them, it is because he beat Jansen!!!

Brunell is partly to blame for any fumble caused when a DE beats Samuels because he CAN see that guy rushing at him and he should tuck the ball before he gets hit.

Most of Brunell's fumbles have come when he is either running with the ball or from hits on his blind side. The fumbles when he is running are all on Brunell and by your reasoning then Jansen is completely to blame for the others.

Someone please realize which positions these guys play! You have things completely reversed, Jansen covers Brunell's blind side and if Ramsey were in Samuels would be doing the same. So please don't suggest that Ramsey play to cover up for Samuels' faults because that can't be further from the truth!

This thread has absolutley no credibility as it is in no way based on factual evidence, it's just people wanting to jump all over their favorite whipping boy again!

John Manfreda wrote:Samuals sucks, we should have gotten rid of him, I don't care who replaced him. Anyone, an undrafted free agent, he is horrible. Its always Samuals guy that causes a turnover. That was the biggest mistake and not drafting Mike Williams. They had a field day with Carlos Rogers

Funny, I haven't heard Mike Williams' name once this year. CB's take time to develop. Rogers is going to be good.

Wow - Mike Williams is really tearing up the league

Mike Williams 19 224 11.8 49 1 2 2

LOL dude, get over it.

As for Samuels, he hasn't been great but he hasn't been as bad as some of you doomsday scenerio folks like to make him out to be. He's your scapegoat of the week. You have to realize that Samuels has blocked for immobile QB's in the past (at least with the 'Skins), Brunnel rolls out and unless you have eyes in the back of your head, you're not always going to know where he is on the field. The team as a whole lost on Sunday. It's as simple as that. The O didn't hang onto the ball early and the D caved in the end. Yeah, the refs screwed us - that the icing on the cake. It's not one players fault.