Javon Walker...wouldn't be nice?

[Deadskins]

I say send Brunells ass back to where he came from. Let him sit on the bench behind Favre again! haha

The think with Javon is that HE DESERVES a new contract. It's not like he just signed his current deal last year (TO). Most teams recognize the fact that a young guy is the real deal and lock him up a year or two before his rookie contract expires. It's almost the norm.

But every now an then you get a team that doesn't do it. They wait for the player to finish their contract before giving an extension. And with the Packers in Cap Hell they have no choice right now.

Enter Rosenhaus, he'll make this ugly, and he kind of has the right to in this case. It's not Javons fault that the Packers couldn't manage the cap.

Anyway, the kid is a good person, no issues like Taylor. I don't care what was given as long as it was fair for both teams. Walker is the real deal and he would make Santana better by taking some heat off of him.

Just my 2 cents

I agree it is often in a team's best interest to renegotiate a contract before it runs out, but no player deserves a new contract before their present one has expired. I just don't understand that logic. That is diametrically opposed to the concept of a "contract." Does a team deserve to renegotiate the contract of an under-achiever?

[1niksder]

Does a team deserve to renegotiate the contract of an under-achiever?

Teams do it all of the time. They decide it's not cost effective to pay a player x amount of dollars for the preformance that they have witness. They don't always renegotiate, sometimes they just send in the "Turk"

[oafusp]

Does a team deserve to renegotiate the contract of an under-achiever?

Teams do it all of the time. They decide it's not cost effective to pay a player x amount of dollars for the preformance that they have witness. They don't always renegotiate, sometimes they just send in the "Turk"

Yeah, teams do it all the time. Once the player has shown that he's not a bust they give them the new contract. They do this because the players "numbers" might get even better thus demanding more money. Imagine the price of Walker this time next year if he has 1,500 yards and 12 TDs. It could happen considerring the state of the Packers, they could be playing from behind a lot this season and we all know how Favre gets when the teams is behind in a game...zip, zip, zip. They'd be better off paying Javon now but they just can't afford it.

[Deadskins]

Does a team deserve to renegotiate the contract of an under-achiever?

Teams do it all of the time. They decide it's not cost effective to pay a player x amount of dollars for the preformance that they have witness. They don't always renegotiate, sometimes they just send in the "Turk"

Yeah, teams do it all the time. Once the player has shown that he's not a bust they give them the new contract. They do this because the players "numbers" might get even better thus demanding more money. Imagine the price of Walker this time next year if he has 1,500 yards and 12 TDs. It could happen considerring the state of the Packers, they could be playing from behind a lot this season and we all know how Favre gets when the teams is behind in a game...zip, zip, zip. They'd be better off paying Javon now but they just can't afford it.

Written into this contract, which was signed by both parties, is the language that allows the team to cut the player at any time, and only be responsible for guaranteed bonus money. If the player wants, he can stick to his original contract. Of course, the flip side is that the team might have to cut him if they can't afford to pay the money.

[runbillo]

Greetings from NYC: If we made this move we would have another Coles situation on our hands next year. I think Drew Rosenhaus should buy a team of his own. Then he could sign his 2 clients. Of course if it was his money againist the cap or out of pocket I am sure Drew would be singing a different tune.

[REDEEMEDSKIN]

The only thing that discourages me from jumping on the "Sign Javon" wagon is that we would have too many Rosenhaus players on our roster. Gosh, I'd hate to have to go through the drama every offseason with those cats. It's be depressing.

[wonker]

I gotta say, as much as it hurts me, that I'm fully supporting Philthy as they stick it to TO and Resenhaus.



wonker

[Gibbs4Life]

If it could be done it would CERTAINLY HELP. But alas it doesnt make cap sense for us. Lets hope Santana has a monster year.

[skinpride1]

I gotta say, as much as it hurts me, that I'm fully supporting Philthy as they stick it to TO and Resenhaus.



wonker

I agree with that I'm sick of these players crying and being greedy wanting all the money.Teams should make a stand against Resenhaus. No more over paying players!!!

[1niksder]

The only thing that discourages me from jumping on the "Sign Javon" wagon is that we would have too many Rosenhaus players on our roster. Gosh, I'd hate to have to go through the drama every offseason with those cats. It's be depressing.

They would have to be outplaying their current contracts and if we had that many of his cleints overacheiving I don't think I'd be depressed

[Redskin in Canada]

I just heard on NFL Total Access that Green Bay sent him a letter that they won't bargain with him, and the Drew Rosenhaus will force a trade.

No thanks on the player and no thanks on the agent.

A good game plan should be sufficient with the group of receivers that we have. As for S. Moss and Patten, I disagree with you. Not that I consider them our stars already. I just feel that they should be given the benefit of the doubt together with others in the roster.

Competition should be fierce as it is anyway.

[1niksder]

Starr backs Favre's stand on Walker's holdout
Posted: July 20, 2005
SportsDay



Bob Wolfley
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Bart Starr has nothing but admiration for Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre's decision to publicly criticize his teammate Javon Walker, who has decided to hold out for a new contract.

The Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterback said the future Hall of Fame quarterback was exercising his role as a leader on the team.

Starr said it is entirely appropriate for Favre to criticize the contract issues of another player since Favre is considering the needs of the team.

Starr, 71, made his comments during a telephone interview from the Los Angeles Coliseum, where he was taking part in the taping of a television commercial produced by the National Football League to promote Super Bowl XL.

Last week and again this week at the U.S. Bank Championship, where he was competing in the pro-am, Favre repeated his criticism of Walker and Walker's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, whose strategy is to have Walker hold out to get a new contract with the Packers.

Walker, who is scheduled to make $515,000 this season, has two years left on a five-year contract he signed when he came into the league in 2001.
Walker wants the Packers to give him more money because of the terrific season he had last year, when he was the team's leading receiver and was chosen to play in the Pro Bowl.

Favre has not wavered in his opinion about the issue since he expressed it earlier this summer.

He has said repeatedly holding out is the wrong approach for Walker in trying to get a better contract.

"I have had much respect for Brett for many, many years because of the way he has led the team," Starr said. "Quite frankly, it's one of the things that's lacking today. You don't have someone who is a leader or assuming a leadership role. I'm certain he feels it's appropriate. Because of my respect and admiration for him, I would endorse what he has done."

Starr said he was "not sure" whether there was an unwritten rule in NFL locker rooms these days that says teammates don't criticize other teammates' business dealings.

"I think there are different issues for every situation," Starr said. "Different facts and numbers and different bits of information. I don't know how to answer that. What I'm saying is I believe when you have the type of strong leadership which Brett exhibits, it's almost an obligation for him to do be able to do that, in fact to do that. That's what it should be about. I admire him for his stance," Starr said.

Starr was asked about the risk Favre was taking by criticizing Walker.

What if Favre winds up alienating his leading receiver or other players on the team?

"Well, they'll cross that bridge when they come to it," Starr said. "In the meantime, what's more important is the team. That's exactly where Brett is placing the priority."

Starr said he was dismayed that so much attention was given to individual needs and not enough attention given to team needs.

"The reason I admire this so much, Brett doing this, is that one of the biggest disappointments I personally have is there isn't enough emphasis on team in many cases today," Starr said. "There are too many I's and me's on top of that pyramid. There is no place for that. It's team. Team is the foundation."

Bad guy role OK with him
Rosenhaus said he does not mind wearing the black hat when it comes to representing his clients.

In an interview with HBO Sports to air on "Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel," Tuesday night, Rosenhaus said he was pleased when he was lustily booed when he pinch hit at Javon Walker's celebrity softball game May 14 at Miller Park.

"I enjoyed it immensely," said Rosenhaus. "And I'll tell you why. I thought it was so funny. Because when Javon got up to bat, they cheered him. They booed me. And they cheered him. Outstanding. I'll take it every time. That's great. If people are upset with me, if I'm the bad guy, and my client isn't, that's great."

Rosenhaus said he has many other NFL clients besides Walker, Packers defensive tackle Grady Jackson and Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens, clients whose contracts he wants to renegotiate even though those contracts have not come to an end.

"I have about 20 players that I'm in negotiations for," Rosenhaus told HBO. "And I'll let you in on a secret. Every one of those teams has said, 'No, no, no.' But the no's have a way of turning to yes when the games count. Their jobs are on the line also."

http://www.jsonline.com/packer/news/jul05/342433.asp

[redskincity]

Lets just go through a process, Rome wasnt built overnight. Let JOE work his magic.

[sch1977]

Oafusp... I was thinking about this yesterday myself, I was pretty surprised to see someone was thinking about getting Walker also. While thinking I encountered a problem? What could the Packers want that we could give up for Javon? The only person I could think of was maybe Sean Taylor but despite his legal problems I'm weary of getting another big name reciever for potentially the greatest safety of all time (Maybe Sean can clean his act up? I think he's gonna learn his lesson after this shenanigan) Plus, would the Packers accept a troubled young player like Taylor despite his amazing talent? Who do you think we could trade for Walker besides Taylor?

Sean Taylor better than Ronnie Lott, Lynch, Woodson, Reed?


UMMMMMMMMMMMMMM..........NO.

As for Walker, I say NO too we will win or lose with what we have barring any major injuries.

Taylor,assuming he gets his act straight, will far surpass John Lynch and Rod Woodsen. Maybe not Lott, but possibly, and he can be every bit as good as Ed Reed

No rebuttal? As usual, you make a comment without backing it up!