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Chris Luva Luva wrote:

WshSkins22 wrote:Man im jut tired of talking about Sean Taylor and teh quarterbacks, just wanted to discuss another position but whatever I guess itsd a dumb post, at least I didnt make like 30 Sean Taylor threads

Maybe dumb was too strong of a word. Maybe it should have said "Easiest" poll ever.

K2 - Held out for more money. Got injured. Runs off at the mouth. Puts himself in danger. Never played more than 2 NFL games in 2 years.

ey - Quiet guy. Gets the job done. Blocks great. Hands made of glue. 3rd round guy who isn't a "super star". Great team player. Never been injured.

Thats an easy poll.

Your right about that, but I thought it would be good because of the "hype" surrounding K2, and ey being a get it done guy, theres still people who picked K2 so its not too lopsided, I didnt look at the fact of K2 being injured I aws looking at potential in the NFL and assuming K2 was healthy.

Guys, the answer is plain as day. If KW2 never got injured I would take him without even blinking. I am a huge Cooley fan, but being realistic KW2 has a much better opportunity to impact and change a game. Cooley is a solid blocker with good hands. He will never be a game breaker.

Why isnt ey a gamebreaker, just because he isnt "hyped", did you realize how clutch he was last year, he has good heart, good quiet guy, hes definetly better than K2, any day. Led our team in td;s last year and didnt even start the whole season. He had to go through two qb's, adjusting all while being a rookie. He has so much potential to be a great pas catcher.

zz111 wrote:Guys, the answer is plain as day. If KW2 never got injured I would take him without even blinking. I am a huge ey fan, but being realistic KW2 has a much better opportunity to impact and change a game. ey is a solid blocker with good hands. He will never be a game breaker.

Prove your point? Thats just speculation. ey is a proven TD machine.

Show me some good K2 NFL clips.
Show me some K2 TD's.

I can show you these things with ey. ey was in a horrible offense last year, dont try to limit that man to one dimension. He outplayed everyones expectations last year, and I expect him to succeed even further.

K2 is a bust.

I know that K2 is probally more physically gifted than ey but what good is it doing him on the bench? What if? What if? What if ey had wings, then he'd be able to fly over defenders. So he wins.

ey will only get better, remember that he played in a terrible offense as cll said and he is a hard worker, has been workign out and him and Ramsey have chemistry. He can make the pro bowl in upcoming years in my opinion.

I'd take a guy like ey any day of the week. Look whats happening with S.T and K2. Two GREAT atheletes who dont have their head on straight. Sure they can do it all, but they dont do it on the field, they do it off the field.

If i had to choose from what i've seen so far I take ey. I like his heart more than anything. I also like the fact he will run people over, and not to mention he can catch really well. It has nothing to do with the fact that he plays for the skins b/c if i had to choose between ey and Gates? Gates it is.

Chris ey!

ey, better attitude with skills just as good as Winslow.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:What if? What if? What if ey had wings, then he'd be able to fly over defenders. So he wins.

Classic.


And you're right; all the K2 lovers have nothing to show for their support other than college stats. K2 could make an impact on the NFL - in 2007, 2008, heck, maybe he will show everybody up by the 2013 season![/i]

A non injured Winslow or Cooley? I am willing to bet that their are 32 teams out their that would choose KW2. Most opinions here are biased. If Cooley had the same stats and he was on another team everyone would be choosing KW2. I am a realist even though I love Cooley.

ey. There are no what ifs here. Potential means squat when 2 NFL seasons = zero production. Didn't we Skin fans learn anything from the Michael Westbrook experiment?

Winslow is going to miss his second NFL season due to injury. There is no garauntee that he'll be 100% for his 3rd season either. Will he perform as well as he should have pre injury? Is he injury prone?

ey is reliable and excels in the clutch and will play his second season where he will again be solid and may be even better than last year. I will take solid production over injured potential any day.

Greetings from NYC: This is a tough choice. Choose bewteen a player that has been hurt for 2 years or a player that has produced and has the proven abilty to pick up the offense, catch passes, run block and is a true Redskin. What the heck I will go with Chris.

def cooley.. hes gritty and a true redskin....KII should go hang with taylor and cause some trouble.

Like wingman coined it in his article today... hurrishame.

I'll take ey over KWII... ey might have already played in more games than Winslow ever will.

WshSkins22 wrote:Guys this isnt a stupid poll, I meant if Winslow was healthy, or else why would I ask to compare a hurt Winslow? This is actually a good question becaue we didnt get Winslow and arguably got a better guy with a 3rd rounder

Better? What are you smoking?

Kellen Winslow played lights out while at Miami (in a real conference).

I'm tired of these "Cooley" fans hyping him up as if he is the next Bavaro or Christiensen.

By the way, how sad is it that our leading touchdown receiver was an "H-Back"???? That just shows you how incompetent our receivers/passing game was last year.

Hopefully, Gibbs will keep him in to block a lot more and let our small but speedy receivers go deep.

BossHog wrote:Like wingman coined it in his article today... hurrishame.

I'll take ey over KWII... ey might have already played in more games than Winslow ever will.

Nice article by Wingman. Makes you wonder how simple it would have been to get a simple successful life against a complicated tumultuous life.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:Better? What are you smoking?

If you do not want to be attacked, do not attack anybody with the smoke thing, which could very well apply to you.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote: I'm tired of these "Cooley" fans hyping him up as if he is the next Bavaro or Christiensen.

Statistics anybody?

But you do not have to respond to this thread if you are tired about anything. We could care less.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:By the way, how sad is it that our leading touchdown receiver was an "H-Back"???? That just shows you how incompetent our receivers/passing game was last year. .

KW2 lovers should know that KW senior was a heck of a TE. Is that sad? What is wrong with a good HB in Gibbs' offense?

I hear that the Browns are looking for fans like you. Do not let the door hit you in the back.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:Hopefully, Gibbs will keep him in to block a lot more and let our small but speedy receivers go deep.

From the sound of your views, it does not matter what he does whether good and scoring or bad and just chilling.

Most of your posts are about putting down, Ramsey, ey, and other Skins. No reasoning, no thought, no statistics, just negative and depressive outbursts. I am not surprised anymore about any silly posts from you.

Have a nice life, or better yet, have a miserable life. It will apparently make you feel more in tune with your frame of mind.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:I'm tired of these "Cooley" fans hyping him up as if he is the next Bavaro or Christiensen.

This thread was about "who would you want more," not "Cooley is the best HB in the game."


To my knowledge, ey has stats in the NFL and K2 has, well, pretty much nothing. There have been plenty of top-drafted busts that played well in college. So far as any of us know, K2 could be just that. Only, we haven't really seen him play in the NFL, so no one has any idea.

ey may not end up being the best, and K2 may not suck if he ever gets to play. But ey is going into year 2 to build on a solid rookie season, whereas K2 will be getting fat. I'll take a guy with the stats over the unproven guy anyday.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:Better? What are you smoking?

If you do not want to be attacked, do not attack anybody with the smoke thing, which could very well apply to you.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote: I'm tired of these "Cooley" fans hyping him up as if he is the next Bavaro or Christiensen.

Statistics anybody?

But you do not have to respond to this thread if you are tired about anything. We could care less.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:By the way, how sad is it that our leading touchdown receiver was an "H-Back"???? That just shows you how incompetent our receivers/passing game was last year. .

KW2 lovers should know that KW senior was a heck of a TE. Is that sad? What is wrong with a good HB in Gibbs' offense?

I hear that the Browns are looking for fans like you. Do not let the door hit you in the back.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:Hopefully, Gibbs will keep him in to block a lot more and let our small but speedy receivers go deep.

From the sound of your views, it does not matter what he does whether good and scoring or bad and just chilling.

Most of your posts are about putting down, Ramsey, ey, and other Skins. No reasoning, no thought, no statistics, just negative and depressive outbursts. I am not surprised anymore about any silly posts from you.

Have a nice life, or better yet, have a miserable life. It will apparently make you feel more in tune with your frame of mind.

I apologize about the "smoke thing" but absolutely nothing about the Redskins offense, the lone exception being Portis, allows for any hope that they will go from the #30 offense in the league to even halfway mediocre. I would truly like to see some real evidence not anecdotal, emotional diatribes.

Perhaps Gibbs will run Portis 30 plus times a game--it worked for the Stoolers. Then use the play-action to throw deep which we couldn't do last year.

This is why I am skeptical. I don't care about statistics save for the only one that matters: win/loss record. And let me reiterate the truth that seems to hurt: The mere fact that an average at best "h-back" was the best touchdown receiver in the offense last year to me is OFFENSIVE.

DUDE, no one is saying that ey is the best player in the league because he had the most TDs with the Skins last year.

Our pass protection was bad, our passing accuracy was bad, and our receivers were bad last year. That was why ey got the most TDs. Jeebus!

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:I don't care about statistics save for the only one that matters: win/loss record.

OK stay put. We will call you when we win the SB.

The growing pains and difficulties encountered during the reconstruction process shall remain out of -your- sight.

We will call you... We really will... Really...

Enjoy the Browns in the meantime, see you later ... Do not call us, we will call you ... Really ...

Gibbs' Hog wrote:DUDE, no one is saying that ey is the best player in the league because he had the most TDs with the Skins last year.

Our pass protection was bad, our passing accuracy was bad, and our receivers were bad last year. That was why ey got the most TDs. Jeebus!

And I addressed that point by saying hopefully Gibbs will keep in "Cooley" a lot more and have him block since our O Line isn't proven at all yet.

Let the receivers do the catching and the "H-Backs" do the blocking.

The last time I checked, touchdowns were welcome by anyone who could get one on the team. I don't believe it should be relegated to, "let the receivers score and the HBs block."

Creativity................

If the H-back can get in, why would you not let him?

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:

WshSkins22 wrote:Guys this isnt a stupid poll, I meant if Winslow was healthy, or else why would I ask to compare a hurt Winslow? This is actually a good question becaue we didnt get Winslow and arguably got a better guy with a 3rd rounder

Better? What are you smoking?

Kellen Winslow played lights out while at Miami (in a real conference).

I'm tired of these "Cooley" fans hyping him up as if he is the next Bavaro or Christiensen.

By the way, how sad is it that our leading touchdown receiver was an "H-Back"???? That just shows you how incompetent our receivers/passing game was last year.

Hopefully, Gibbs will keep him in to block a lot more and let our small but speedy receivers go deep.

Are you kidding me? I dont even have to list all of the first roudn busts in the NFL. Winslow is NOTHING to the nfl, so what hewas good in college, that doesnt mean anything Jason White was great in College but when did he get drafted again? ey did as well as Winslow is college stats wise