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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:00 pm
by Redskin_fan
There is no real downside to this pickup. I do think a young guy with a lot of upside can be at or better competition than a guy who is probably past his prime.

Thrash and Patten have a combined 17 years in the league. I think we have enough mentors in our WR Corps, I'd rather see us develop some playmakers with future longevity.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:53 pm
by Hog Heaven
I think this is great... Boss explains really well why this is good for the skins. As for Dyson, this is good whether he makes the team or not. If he does, he has a job. If not, he will have shown what he can do to other teams and hopefuly (for him) continue his career.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:37 pm
by die cowboys die
i really want to see jacobs and mccants get a lot more time and opportunity this year, to see what they can become... hopefully gibbs hasn't seen anything already in OTAs that makes him think "these guys aren't quite going to cut it".

but i guess the best thing is just to have the best WRs start, whoever they may be. curiosity or hopefulness about youngsters isn't as important as winning. hopefuly though the young guys can help us win.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:31 am
by Jake
I like this signing. Very interesting considering we brought him in once or twice before and didn't sign him.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:11 am
by die cowboys die
yeah i thought i remembered that. back when spurrier was here right?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:36 am
by JPM36
He was more expensive back then.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:05 am
by Jake
die cowboys die wrote:yeah i thought i remembered that. back when spurrier was here right?


Yeah. We brought him or once or twice under Gibbs, too. I think we tried him out earlier this year.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:21 am
by hatsOFF2gibbs
Why are we looking at AFreeman too? We're going to have to cycle all these WRs out every game! Freeman should be a good pick up though.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:08 am
by Warmother
I like the signing of Dyson, he has good size and he's not that old. Since no team usually goes injury free it can't hurt to have him learning the system in camp.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:28 am
by runbillo
Greetings from NYC: I would rather have Jacob's and McCants on the roster than Dyson. Could it be that Joe is trying to light a fire under McCants butt? Are we going to use Thrash as the 2nd H back, Dyson in the slot and go empty backfield in short passing situations?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:33 am
by gay4pacman
thrash is not big enough to be h back and if hes lighting a fire under his butt he might just bury mccants under wr's until he cant breath

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:46 am
by hatsOFF2gibbs
gay4pacman wrote:thrash is not big enough to be h back and if hes lighting a fire under his butt he might just bury mccants under wr's until he cant breath
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McCants is the man...whether you like it or not. He's going to have a great year...he's going to prove that not playing him more last year was detrimental to the Redskins.

we need some height

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:18 am
by gibbs#1
kevin dyson is a better version of mccants same height build + our starting receivers don't have much size what if they start getting bumped dyson is big enough and experienced enough to play a big part

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:07 am
by gay4pacman
[quote] McCants is the man...whether you like it or not. He's going to have a great year...he's going to prove that not playing him more last year was detrimental to the Redskins.
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No doubt mccants is the man

Gibbs is going to bury him under these otyher Wr's

If he didnt play last year you think he'll get time this year???
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:01 pm
by redskindave
I like this addition, I would like to see us pick up a good defensive back though also.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:09 pm
by hatsOFF2gibbs
gay4pacman wrote:
McCants is the man...whether you like it or not. He's going to have a great year...he's going to prove that not playing him more last year was detrimental to the Redskins.


No doubt mccants is the man

Gibbs is going to bury him under these otyher Wr's

If he didnt play last year you think he'll get time this year???
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[-X Umm...I don't know if i'm a psycho but I do think I remember hearing JGibbs talk about how McCants is going to be having a key role in the Redskins' offense next year.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:18 pm
by oafusp
I don't think Dyson will make the roster come September.

I honestly think he was brought in for one reason....so Joe Gibbs can see how well Jason Campbell and Brunell throw to "decent" WR's.

It's hard to gauge your QB when Ramsey gets to throw to the starters 75% of practice.

Too bad Ramsey was not given that luxury last September/October.

If Dyson shows something that he hasn't the last 2 years then sure, keep him. Good depth.

Isn't Ike Hilliard still available?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:30 pm
by hatsOFF2gibbs
oafusp wrote:Isn't Ike Hilliard still available?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

The Bucs picked him up.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:36 pm
by oafusp
hatsOFF2gibbs wrote:
oafusp wrote:Isn't Ike Hilliard still available?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

The Bucs picked him up.


Ah, well Koren Robinson is available.

Maybe he and Sean Taylor can car pool to practice after Happy Hour?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:12 pm
by hatsOFF2gibbs
Redskins: Dyson signed, Freeman rejected


THE NEWS

The Redskins signed free agent wide receiver Kevin Dyson on Monday. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed. The Washington Post reports that Dyson and former Packers' and Eagles' wide receiver Antonio Freeman worked out for the team on Monday. Dyson was signed to what is believed to be a one-year deal, while Freeman left town without a contract. Dyson has only appeared in one game over the last two years due to knee injuries.


OUR VIEW

You know a team is desperate for wideout help when they bring in aging stiffs like Dyson and Freeman for workouts, let alone sign one of them. Dyson was actually the first receiver selected in the 1998 draft. The 30 year-old veteran was selected ahead of some guy named Randy Moss that year.

http://www.fanball.com/fb/index.cfm
I thought we were interested in getting Dyson and Freeman....I guess not.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:18 am
by air_hog
oafusp wrote:I don't think Dyson will make the roster come September.

I honestly think he was brought in for one reason....so Joe Gibbs can see how well Jason Campbell and Brunell throw to "decent" WR's.

It's hard to gauge your QB when Ramsey gets to throw to the starters 75% of practice.

Too bad Ramsey was not given that luxury last September/October.


I seriously doubt that we brought him in to see how Brunell would react to him. I mean, I'm sure Campbell and Ramsey and Brunell all get their fair share of looks at each WR. I mean, it's not like only Ramsey gets to throw to Moss and Patten.

While I agree that Dyson may not still be here by September, I can't think that the only reason we brought Dyson in was to see how our QB's could throw to WR in practice. But maybe he'll earn a spot and will be a great #3 WR for our team.

And I also disagree about our 04 WR's, because I actually thought our WR last year were at least decent if not better. Sure, Coles had that toe problem but he was tough and would go over the middle. Gardner was streaky, but still a fair number 2. McCants, Thrash, and Jacobs all were solid in their little amounts of playing time, and Cooley and Royal were surprisingly dominant.

While this years crop may be more reliable, I think we will still take one step back because if Dyson stays, our # 1, 2, and 3 WR's will all be learning a new system.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:27 am
by crazyhorse1
What are you guys smoking. Dyson can't play. He's not even as good as Gardner; not even close, actually. If we have a real need for him, we're really in trouble. We're looking at 4 and 12.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:54 am
by General Failure
Really? 'Cause I totally heard that Gibbs plans on making him a starter.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:55 am
by crazyhorse1
You're yanking my chain, G.F. At least, I hope so. The prospect of losing Taylor and picking up a journeyman like Dysan as a starter--all in one week-- is too much of a strain on my heart. I'm coming, Elizabeth.

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:30 am
by BRDotson30
teams always sign washed up players to bring to camp dyson will be gone by the last preseason game