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I take that back. That was a bad thing to say.

I'd probaly score a 20-35 on that thing. Alex Smith got a 40 I think. QBs have to be smart.

Gore from Miami got a 4. A 4.

Any other position that doesnt involve reading playbooks over and over obviously doesnt involve QUITE at much smarts.

Here´s a rundown of aour 2004 drafts picks and their Wonderlic scores:
ey: 32
Wilson: 30
Molinaro: 16
Taylor: 10

IMO, ey had a tremendous season, even though we all know H-backs and TE usually score big in Gibbs system.
Molinaro and Wilson had solid participations in a couple of games here and there.
Taylor, even though he was the spectacular first-round signing, had a season full of highs and lows.

So yes, I would say the Wonderlic does have something to do with player performance.

I remember Jeff George having a very low Wonderlic score and reading about it in a WP article from the time he was DC. We all know what happened there...

Pac man is going to be a serious factor in the league this year, I hope the redskins can pick him up. Anybody but Merriam, can you say steroids..........No thanks

The wonderlic is B.S. I know of a guy who Cummins consulted on design issues for new diesel engines. He couldn't read or write. There are thousands of different types of aptitudes. Our society's archaic education system for reading, writing, arithmetic is extremely limited and doesn't really repereasent much of the real world. Which is why there are so many successful people, millionaires etc. who didn't even go to college. Being an exceptional cornerback has NOTHING to do with conscious thought. It will be Gibbs and Williams jobs to prepare this guy before games.

Now, if call into question Jones' character, I'll listen to that argument. Also, Carlos Rogers is moving up the board.

fleetus wrote:The wonderlic is B.S. I know of a guy who Cummins consulted on design issues for new diesel engines. He couldn't read or write. There are thousands of different types of aptitudes. Our society's archaic education system for reading, writing, arithmetic is extremely limited and doesn't really repereasent much of the real world. Which is why there are so many successful people, millionaires etc. who didn't even go to college. Being an exceptional cornerback has NOTHING to do with conscious thought. It will be Gibbs and Williams jobs to prepare this guy before games.

Now, if call into question Jones' character, I'll listen to that argument. Also, Carlos Rogers is moving up the board.

??? I see your point.

I personally think we should trade down to get more picks. The one thing I like about Pac Man is he idolized Darrell Green and was/is a Redskins fan. That alone may sway some opinions within the organization.

I really don't have an opinion of the guy at the moment. I don't have a good feeling about this years draft in general (or at least the top 10 prospects) and don't think we should stay at #9.

This wonderlic crap is nonsense. Look at that list of players and you'll see that many players with low sores did well as rookies...

Taylor: 10
Julius Jones: 16
Kevin Jones: 15
Tommie Harris: 11
Wilfork: 10

Someone calling themselves Chris LuvaLuva is going to point out my typos as an indication of intelligence or lack thereof? Funny.

How about this, think of the greatest CB's of all time. How many of them do you think scored well on written tests? Darrell Green was an anomaly, which is why we love him so much. But Lester Hayes, Deion, Night Train Lane? These guys aren't revered because they aced their SAT's. They could run, jump, tackle and catch. These skills along with studying film and taking instruction from coaches doesn't require the same type of aptitude that a multiple choice exam does.

fleetus wrote:Someone calling themselves Chris LuvaLuva is going to point out my typos as an indication of intelligence or lack thereof? Funny.

How about this, think of the greatest CB's of all time. How many of them do you think scored well on written tests? Darrell Green was an anomaly, which is why we love him so much. But Lester Hayes, Deion, Night Train Lane? These guys aren't revered because they aced their SAT's. They could run, jump, tackle and catch. These skills along with studying film and taking instruction from coaches doesn't require the same type of aptitude that a multiple choice exam does.

Just pointed out the irony. Take it easy.

No, jist sed it was funny. I's ain't angree.

SkinzCanes wrote:This wonderlic crap is nonsense. Look at that list of players and you'll see that many players with low sores did well as rookies...

Taylor: 10
Julius Jones: 16
Kevin Jones: 15
Tommie Harris: 11
Wilfork: 10

The Wonderlic is a useful tool but it isn't the end all be all.

Certain positions typically have lower scores play well (D-line), but looking at the 5 players you listed, both Joneses scored almost average, Harris and Wilfork are both D-lineman, and Taylor didn't start at the beginning of the year. You don't think trouble picking up assingments had anything to do with that?

I have seen pacman in all of his games the past two years

My roomate sat next to him in english 101 and said he was dumb

with all that said he still makes plays and you can't test for that, its just there, plus he lead WVU in tackles as a corner whatever that means

just want to point out merriman got a 19 on his wonderlic. If he's strictly a DE, that doesn't bother me, but if we take him to play MLB, I'm worried about it...

That's the first I've heard anyone mention Merriman as a possible Redskin. He seems like strictly a 3-4 guy to me.